Re: Mir Chakar Rind : History vs Legend
By the way , your favourite source, Naseer dashti's books are banned in pakistan for obvious reasons. Besiding writing nationalistic garbage history, he is anti-state and traitor. Governament/army and FC is doing wonderful job in keeping check on the nationalistic anti-pakistani literature of baloch separatists which is funded by indians, they are corrupting the minds of baloch youth.
truth is bitter what do u say afghani refugee hahahah :p
Re: Mir Chakar Rind : History vs Legend
My respect to chakar rind, he was loyal subordinate of Afghans. May God bless his soul
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It has become Pathan vs Baloch ego-fight again :)
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^I understand that sentiments of Mir Baloch, or any Baloch, would be hurt but we must respect history and facts. Nationalism is blinding, thats what i am observing in case of Mir Baloch, if he is posting and propagating so called history stuff, he should be prepared for every critical analysis. Instead of calling me names, he should have read the article with cool head and consulted sources to justify his version of history. We also have pashtun ultra nationalists like Mir baloch, no different than baloch ones....Baloch epic poetry and literature is beautiful but it shouldnt be mixed with history, you dont distort or play with history.
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^ Actually, history is very subjective and people interpret action of people of past, most of whose action resulted in mediocre result in grand scale. I mean the strongest Sub continent's empire was nothing in its impact when compared with the short lived Third Reich.
Secondly most literate people in sub-continent were Brahmin and even they have written ballads and poetry on exaggerated scale, we never had idea of historiography so it is always very difficult to separate myth from the fact. In these many years of existence we never had tradition for science,painting,history, medicine. absolutely nothing :)
makes we wonder if we were the most useless races of the world :)
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^I understand that sentiments of Mir Baloch, or any Baloch, would be hurt but we must respect history and facts. Nationalism is blinding, thats what i am observing in case of Mir Baloch, if he is posting and propagating so called history stuff, he should be prepared for every critical analysis. Instead of calling me names, he should have read the article with cool head and consulted sources to justify his version of history. We also have pashtun ultra nationalists like Mir baloch, no different than baloch ones....Baloch epic poetry and literature is beautiful but it shouldnt be mixed with history, you dont distort or play with history.
same goes for u if ur posting and propagating ur so called fake history stuff so u should be also be prepared for every critical analysis. i know the sick mentality of pathans i know that pathans will never except the fact that they have always been crushed by baloch but its ok i can understand there emotions and feelings the problem with pashtoons is that they are Pashtoon uneducated mankinds Because they never have respected thier own leaders Because their nature is to look to other tribes and nations with low eyes and disrespect That is why in Histories and centuries they have never been united, together and owner of an independent country.
After Ahmad Shah Abdali. 90% of current insecurity in both Pak Afghan countries is from Pashtoons Non of other tribes in Afghanistan responds in bad habit or accuses other tribes unless it is Pashtoon my writing sword hurts them. That is why they react.So,Great people always suffers bad behaves. So they shall be patient and react the way readers can see deference between good and bad
and i wont argue with u anymore cause u will never understand after all ur an Awghan have a good one bye :)
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@Mir_Baloch you dont need to get anti-pashtun and hateful, we are discussing history. Have some stomach for listening to the facts, act mature. You have even created a blog, similar to mine, with fake ID “marwat khan” talking non-sense against pashtuns. Have some shame, where is your baloch pride and self-respect?. I came to know about this when you followed me on google plus. Here is your blog
History of Pashtuns
@the_kaur @muqqawee
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for god sake stop lying i dont know about this blog this is not my blog must be a blog of some marwat pashtun . i dont even know about ur blog itna jhoot na bolo
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for god sake stop lying i dont know about this blog this is not my blog must be a blog of some marwat pashtun . i dont even know about ur blog itna jhoot na bolo
You are such a pathetic loser, this is your typical content, you are even following me on google plus. Immediately delete your anti-pashtun blog if you have some respect.
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I thought Balochs had honour and dignity, but it seems there are also rotten apples like you among them. What drive you so crazy that you stoop to such level? .You were posting threads on other forums, saying that marwats, ghilzais etc are not pashtuns. But now this? Using name of "marwat khan" and talking shyt against pashtuns?. Grow up and dont get consumed by hate kid.
Re: Mir Chakar Rind : History vs Legend
Lets come back to the topic, the conclusion is,
1)Balochs never have had a king let alone conqueror in their entire history so they have yearned for such history. As a result they invented a king of balochs in 15th century, Mir chakar.
2) Mir chakar did exist but he was an ordinary chieftain in the service of afghans.
3) Mir chakar and his men were ordered by his afghan lords to fight and kill their own balochs, they did.
3) Brahuis, who are of dravidian origin, have better history of conquests and establishing kalat state. They subjugated balochs and absorbed their entire identity.