Military pushing ahead with Afghanistan border fencing

[Malakand]

Re: Military pushing ahead with Afghanistan border fencing

@Damras

Your language gives a clue you’re not Afghan but a Bhagwan worshiper from India. I don’t think Pathans are that bay-ghairat that they will accept Americans as their saviours when these Americans have raped their women, killed their children in airstrikes and by creating, funding and supporting terrorists of Al-Qaida, Daesh and Taliban. Americans have actually played a double game in Afghanistan and elsewhere. They themselves funded and promoted terror and then fought against the same terror.

I understand why your bottom is red hot. You do not like the fact that Pakistan Army (regardless of my criticism upon its top leadership) has been teaching a good lesson to American Satanists and Indian Cow-Cola network on the soil of Afghanistan by continuously hitting their sensitive organs lol.

As for Pakhtuns, they have yet to revenge Russians for their crimes in Afghanistan in 1980s. So far their ghairat is sleeping in case of Russia. They believe their ghairat broke USSR in 1991. Let them have this illusion. In reality USSR broke itself in a suicide mission of Afghan war.

The Afghan government is a shameless, bay-ghairat brigade of Pakhtuns who are a stigma to the Pakhtun pride. They are sitting in the lap of Pakhtun murderers, the Americans!

Here you are confirming that suicide brigades are indeed sent to Afghanistan by Pakistan Army that kills Afghan civilians, Afghan security forces and ISAF on the daily basis. If you are not referring to the suicide brigades then explain how Pak army is teaching a good lesson to the Americans and continuously hit their sensitive organs??

[phoenixdesi]

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I was in south Africa for a business trip when my uber driver picked me up from my hotel. he turned out to be fro,m Afghanistan. he was well educated and we had a good discussion. he asked me few questions:

1. at this point almost every educated afghan hates pakistan even though we are muslim neighbors plus pak was our ally in russian war. why? why dont Pakistanis never think about it. Just to say that we afgans are kammenay ehsan faramosh will not get the right answer, he insisted

2. why has pakistan always sided with dark illiterate forces namely taliban since 90s?

3. his 3rd question was an interesting one: imagine if Afghanistan was 10 times larger than Pakistan, imagine if afghanistan had an agency like ISI and army as big as pakistan and Pakistan was a small country dependent upon Afghanistan, and Afghanistan army/ISI would have done everything to enforce animals like taliban upon Pakistan for its own strategic reasons and those taliban would have created a hell in pakistan, how would pakistanis feel about afghanistan?

i gave him some answers but i thought he made some good points. our amry/ISI needs to answer that after 40 years, why is afghanistan against us. it is 100% their failure as they controlled all those policies.

[Malakand]

Re: Military pushing ahead with Afghanistan border fencing

@phoenixdesi

I was in south Africa for a business trip when my uber driver picked me up from my hotel. he turned out to be fro,m Afghanistan. he was well educated and we had a good discussion. he asked me few questions:

1. at this point almost every educated afghan hates pakistan even though we are muslim neighbors plus pak was our ally in russian war. why? why dont Pakistanis never think about it. Just to say that we afgans are kammenay ehsan faramosh will not get the right answer, he insisted

2. why has pakistan always sided with dark illiterate forces namely taliban since 90s?

3. his 3rd question was an interesting one: imagine if Afghanistan was 10 times larger than Pakistan, imagine if afghanistan had an agency like ISI and army as big as pakistan and Pakistan was a small country dependent upon Afghanistan, and Afghanistan army/ISI would have done everything to enforce animals like taliban upon Pakistan for its own strategic reasons and those taliban would have created a hell in pakistan, how would pakistanis feel about afghanistan?

i gave him some answers but i thought he made some good points. our amry/ISI needs to answer that after 40 years, why is afghanistan against us. it is 100% their failure as they controlled all those policies.

The first sensible comments I got so far. Thank you brother!

[Doppleganger]

Re: Military pushing ahead with Afghanistan border fencing

@phoenixdesi

I was in south Africa for a business trip when my uber driver picked me up from my hotel. he turned out to be fro,m Afghanistan. he was well educated and we had a good discussion. he asked me few questions:

1. at this point almost every educated afghan hates pakistan even though we are muslim neighbors plus pak was our ally in russian war. why? why dont Pakistanis never think about it. Just to say that we afgans are kammenay ehsan faramosh will not get the right answer, he insisted

2. why has pakistan always sided with dark illiterate forces namely taliban since 90s?

3. his 3rd question was an interesting one: imagine if Afghanistan was 10 times larger than Pakistan, imagine if afghanistan had an agency like ISI and army as big as pakistan and Pakistan was a small country dependent upon Afghanistan, and Afghanistan army/ISI would have done everything to enforce animals like taliban upon Pakistan for its own strategic reasons and those taliban would have created a hell in pakistan, how would pakistanis feel about afghanistan?

i gave him some answers but i thought he made some good points. our amry/ISI needs to answer that after 40 years, why is afghanistan against us. it is 100% their failure as they controlled all those policies.

The afghans did try but lost due to political situation and the bigger pakistani economy. You should have asked him if afghans feel remorse for attacking Pakistan in 1947, sixties (bajaur incursion) and giving money to tribals from 50s - 70s to rebel against pakistan.

I guess that they can somehow justify supporting TTP and BLA that ironically kill large amounts of the border regions / provinces of Pakistan.

[Damras]

Re: Military pushing ahead with Afghanistan border fencing

@phoenixdesi

I was in south Africa for a business trip when my uber driver picked me up from my hotel. he turned out to be fro,m Afghanistan. he was well educated and we had a good discussion. he asked me few questions:

1. at this point almost every educated afghan hates pakistan even though we are muslim neighbors plus pak was our ally in russian war. why? why dont Pakistanis never think about it. Just to say that we afgans are kammenay ehsan faramosh will not get the right answer, he insisted

2. why has pakistan always sided with dark illiterate forces namely taliban since 90s?

3. his 3rd question was an interesting one: imagine if Afghanistan was 10 times larger than Pakistan, imagine if afghanistan had an agency like ISI and army as big as pakistan and Pakistan was a small country dependent upon Afghanistan, and Afghanistan army/ISI would have done everything to enforce animals like taliban upon Pakistan for its own strategic reasons and those taliban would have created a hell in pakistan, how would pakistanis feel about afghanistan?

i gave him some answers but i thought he made some good points. our amry/ISI needs to answer that after 40 years, why is afghanistan against us. it is 100% their failure as they controlled all those policies.

The answer of these questions is very simple.

Afghans should ask themselves why they are such easy sell outs that any country which is stronger than them is using them like a call girl? The country sleeps with anyone who pays.

Look, instead of blaming Taliban or Pakistan, why they don’t ask their American daddies to leave. Taliban were created by Americans in 1990s. And before Taliban it was American father who was paying the Afghans to fight the Russians. Am I right?

Aren’t Afghan people still killed in American air raids? Who’s allowing Daesh to grow inside Afghanistan? Who’s supporting anti-Pakistan Taliban within Afghanistan?

If you think Pakistan is so mighty that it can fail all peace efforts, that it can use Taliban (pro-ISI) to destabilise Afghanistan, no sane person is going to buy this when they see the super power America backing Afghan government. Why can’t the NATO $hit control one single country called Pakistan with the help of Cow-Cola land (India)?

We don’t care what Afghans think of us. We know what we think of them. We know their majority is sell out. They will do anything for money, even kill their own brethren. They sold themselves to Russians, they sold themselves to Indians and now since America’s bid is highest, they have sold themselves to Americans.
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Taliban, Daesh, every criminal who is destroying Afghanistan comes from their own people. So instead of blaming Pakistan for your problems look at yourselves into the mirror.**

[Damras]

Re: Military pushing ahead with Afghanistan border fencing

@Doppleganger

The afghans did try but lost due to political situation and the bigger pakistani economy. You should have asked him if afghans feel remorse for attacking Pakistan in 1947, sixties (bajaur incursion) and giving money to tribals from 50s - 70s to rebel against pakistan.

I guess that they can somehow justify supporting TTP and BLA that ironically kill large amounts of the border regions / provinces of Pakistan.

Afghanistan has often acted as our enemy since the beginning. India is our enemy number 1, and whoever is friends with India against Pakistani interests is our enemy too. If I am wise, I will definitely intervene in Afghan affairs because I know Indians intervene in their affairs in order to use them against us. If Afghans think they are some holy $hit and they may defecate on the face of Pakistan without being questioned, they are wrong. **You play with us, we will also play with you.

Afghans should have some ghairat when they are loyal to Indians while using our land and airspace besides other resources to survive. **

[Damras]

Re: Military pushing ahead with Afghanistan border fencing

@Malakand

Here you are confirming that suicide brigades are indeed sent to Afghanistan by Pakistan Army that kills Afghan civilians, Afghan security forces and ISAF on the daily basis. If you are not referring to the suicide brigades then explain how Pak army is teaching a good lesson to the Americans and continuously hit their sensitive organs??

What if your own American daddies have been using their paid jihadists against you?

[Malakand]

Re: Military pushing ahead with Afghanistan border fencing

@Damras

What if your own American daddies have been using their paid jihadists against you?

Drama, you coward did not answer my question. My question was how Pakistan army is teaching a lesson to their American master in Afghanistan? Are they sending suicide brigade or some other means? please explain your claim and don’t be a coward. Pak army is hired by Americans, they are supposed to be helping them, which they are claiming to be doing by killing and bombing their Pakhtun citizens. if they are not helping that then they are double crossing Americans. For once don’t be a coward and explain.

[Pakistani_Prince]

Re: Military pushing ahead with Afghanistan border fencing

@phoenixdesi

I was in south Africa for a business trip when my uber driver picked me up from my hotel. he turned out to be fro,m Afghanistan. he was well educated and we had a good discussion. he asked me few questions:

1. at this point almost every educated afghan hates pakistan even though we are muslim neighbors plus pak was our ally in russian war. why? why dont Pakistanis never think about it. Just to say that we afgans are kammenay ehsan faramosh will not get the right answer, he insisted

2. why has pakistan always sided with dark illiterate forces namely taliban since 90s?

3. his 3rd question was an interesting one: imagine if Afghanistan was 10 times larger than Pakistan, imagine if afghanistan had an agency like ISI and army as big as pakistan and Pakistan was a small country dependent upon Afghanistan, and Afghanistan army/ISI would have done everything to enforce animals like taliban upon Pakistan for its own strategic reasons and those taliban would have created a hell in pakistan, how would pakistanis feel about afghanistan?

i gave him some answers but i thought he made some good points. our amry/ISI needs to answer that after 40 years, why is afghanistan against us. it is 100% their failure as they controlled all those policies.

Lol Afgans have always been against us, they were agaunst us even in 1947. Afghanistan was the only country who voted against Pakistan in UN in 1947. Afghan war in 80s and 90s have nothing to do with the hatred that they have towards us..

[Moonstar201]

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@phoenixdesi

I was in south Africa for a business trip when my uber driver picked me up from my hotel. he turned out to be fro,m Afghanistan. he was well educated and we had a good discussion. he asked me few questions:

1. at this point almost every educated afghan hates pakistan even though we are muslim neighbors plus pak was our ally in russian war. why? why dont Pakistanis never think about it. Just to say that we afgans are kammenay ehsan faramosh will not get the right answer, he insisted

2. why has pakistan always sided with dark illiterate forces namely taliban since 90s?

3. his 3rd question was an interesting one: imagine if Afghanistan was 10 times larger than Pakistan, imagine if afghanistan had an agency like ISI and army as big as pakistan and Pakistan was a small country dependent upon Afghanistan, and Afghanistan army/ISI would have done everything to enforce animals like taliban upon Pakistan for its own strategic reasons and those taliban would have created a hell in pakistan, how would pakistanis feel about afghanistan?

i gave him some answers but i thought he made some good points. our amry/ISI needs to answer that after 40 years, why is afghanistan against us. it is 100% their failure as they controlled all those policies.

1. Afgans are against pakistsan from day - 1 not after agfan war. So they need to think and answer why

2. This is the so called strategic decision of our army think tanks to have a strong pro pak govt in Afgan. This to secure our borders on western side. However we invested on wrong horses. I dont think afgan is rulable by one group. There will always be a fight going on in afgan between various groups. Hence we will never be successful in achieving a strong pro pak govt in Afgan ( specially if u side line with one ethnic / religous group ) . BEing neutral is the option , we need to think and work but very difficult to achieve.

3. Offcourse , average pakistani will feel the same way as young afgan generation is thinking now. However at that particualr time , how a afgani at that moment will also think the same way as common pakistani thinking now. We get our country destroyed. Making millions of afgani wander through out pakistan. getting our passport and working in whole world at pakistani pass port while hating pakistna at the same time.

[zulfikarDOT]

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@ehsan

“Over 40% of Afghanistan is under insurgent control, contested or ungoverned. Illicit drug trade is worth $400 million dollars. Those who talk off sanctuaries outside Afghanistan need a reality check”~Ambassador Lodhi Maleeha at the UN

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فواد – ڈيجيٹل آؤٹ ريچ ٹيم – يو ايس اسٹيٹ ڈيپارٹمينٹ

امريکی حکومت پرعزم ہے کہ خطے ميں افغان حکومت سميت تمام فريقين کو ہر ممکن مدد فراہم کی جاۓ گی تا کہ اس غير قانونی کاروبار کو ختم کيا جا سکے جس کے ذريعے دہشت گرد گروہوں کو وہ وسائل حاصل ہو جاتے ہيں جن کے ذريعے وہ بے گناہ شہريوں پر حملے کرتے ہيں۔

حال ہی ميں امريکی قيادت ميں اتحادی افواج کی بمباری سے طالبان کے زير استعمال منشيات کی ايک فيکٹری کو تباہ کيا گيا جس کی ماليت کا تخمينہ 80 ملين ڈالرز لگايا گيا ہے۔ اس حملے کی ويڈيو اس لنک پر ديھکی جا سکتی ہے۔

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[Doppleganger]

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This is an english forum so I don’t know why zulfiqar DOThead keeps posting it in urdu? I totally ignore his posts now not that he is doing a great job to begin with.

Another waste of taxpayer money.

[zulfikarDOT]

Re: Military pushing ahead with Afghanistan border fencing

@ehsan

Time for US forces to DO AT LEAST SOMETHING FORGET DO MORE, maybe they are not capable of doing more after all that is what we have seen over the the last 15 years since they have been in afghanistan.

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فواد – ڈيجيٹل آؤٹ ريچ ٹيم – يو ايس اسٹيٹ ڈيپارٹمينٹ

حاليہ اعدادوشمار کے مطابق امريکی فضائيہ نے سال 2017 ميں افغانستان ميں گزشتہ برس کے مقابلے ميں دہشت گرد گروہوں پر تين گنا زيادہ حملے کيے ہيں۔

اکتربر 31 2017 تک کے اعداد وشمار کے مطابق امريکی فوج نے داعش اور طالبان کے جنگجوؤں اور ان کی پناہ گاہوں پر 3554 فضائ حملے کيے، اس کے مقابلے ميں سال 2016 ميں کل 1337 فضائ حملے کيے گۓ اور سال 2015 ميں 947 حملے کيے گۓ۔
ان اعداد وشمار کی تفصيل اس لنک پر موجود ہے۔

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[Damras]

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@zulfikarDOT

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حال ہی ميں امريکی قيادت ميں اتحادی افواج کی بمباری سے طالبان کے زير استعمال منشيات کی ايک فيکٹری کو تباہ کيا گيا جس کی ماليت کا تخمينہ 80 ملين ڈالرز لگايا گيا ہے۔ اس حملے کی ويڈيو اس لنک پر ديھکی جا سکتی ہے۔

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بڑی جلدی پکڑ لی یہ فیکٹری! 2001 سے لگے ہوئے ہیں اور ابھی تک امریکی لوگ اپنے مقاصد حاصل نہیں کر پائے۔ آئے تھے دہشت گردوں کو پکڑنے، ادھر دہشت گرد الٹا منشیات کا کاروبار کر رہے ہیں اور امریکی زیر سایہ 80 ملین ڈالرز کی فیکٹری بھی لگا لی۔ کیا کہنے ہیں امریکیوں کے۔

****باقی دنیا میں جہاں جہاں آپ لوگ بمباری کر کے تباہی پھیلا رہے ہیں، وہاں کون سی منشیات کی فیکٹریاں ہیں؟ **

[Damras]

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@zulfikarDOT

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فواد – ڈيجيٹل آؤٹ ريچ ٹيم – يو ايس اسٹيٹ ڈيپارٹمينٹ

حاليہ اعدادوشمار کے مطابق امريکی فضائيہ نے سال 2017 ميں افغانستان ميں گزشتہ برس کے مقابلے ميں دہشت گرد گروہوں پر تين گنا زيادہ حملے کيے ہيں۔

اکتربر 31 2017 تک کے اعداد وشمار کے مطابق امريکی فوج نے داعش اور طالبان کے جنگجوؤں اور ان کی پناہ گاہوں پر 3554 فضائ حملے کيے، اس کے مقابلے ميں سال 2016 ميں کل 1337 فضائ حملے کيے گۓ اور سال 2015 ميں 947 حملے کيے گۓ۔
ان اعداد وشمار کی تفصيل اس لنک پر موجود ہے۔

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**اس برس یہ حملے اور بڑھ جائیں گے۔ اس سے مگر ہو گا کیا؟ ہر سال یوں ہی حملے بڑھانے کا ارادہ ہے یا پھر اس ڈرامے بازی کے ذریعے افغانستان میں امریکیوں کو اپنے ناپاک وجود کو قائم رکھنے کا بہانہ مل رہا ہے۔

عزت سے چلے جائیں ورنہ چینیوں نے دوستوں کے ساتھ مل کر آپ لوگوں کا قیمہ بنا دینا ہے۔

امریکی دہشت گردوں اور شیاطین کی چمچہ گیری کر کے آپ کون سا ثواب کما رہے ہیں بھائی صاحب؟ اس سے بہتر ہے محنت مزدوری کر کے کوئی باعزت پیشہ اپنا لو۔ انسان دشمن امریکیوں کے جرائم کو خوبصورت بنا کر پیش نہ کرو۔**

[Damras]

Re: Military pushing ahead with Afghanistan border fencing

@Malakand

My question was how Pakistan army is teaching a lesson to their American master in Afghanistan?

Without Pakistan there won’t be any solution to Afghan problem. Pakistan has taught good lessons to Americans by not letting them win the war. American backed Afghan government is still not established yet. Those who kill innocent civilians in suicide attacks are terrorists. I don’t know if they are American funded terrorists or Indian funded or Pakistan sponsored. Do you have any clue who they are working for?

[ehsan]

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@zulfikarDOT

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فواد – ڈيجيٹل آؤٹ ريچ ٹيم – يو ايس اسٹيٹ ڈيپارٹمينٹ

امريکی حکومت پرعزم ہے کہ خطے ميں افغان حکومت سميت تمام فريقين کو ہر ممکن مدد فراہم کی جاۓ گی تا کہ اس غير قانونی کاروبار کو ختم کيا جا سکے جس کے ذريعے دہشت گرد گروہوں کو وہ وسائل حاصل ہو جاتے ہيں جن کے ذريعے وہ بے گناہ شہريوں پر حملے کرتے ہيں۔

حال ہی ميں امريکی قيادت ميں اتحادی افواج کی بمباری سے طالبان کے زير استعمال منشيات کی ايک فيکٹری کو تباہ کيا گيا جس کی ماليت کا تخمينہ 80 ملين ڈالرز لگايا گيا ہے۔ اس حملے کی ويڈيو اس لنک پر ديھکی جا سکتی ہے۔

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ground realities are very different:

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/23/world/asia/afghanistan-military-abuse.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur

[ehsan]

Re: Military pushing ahead with Afghanistan border fencing

Read this on twitter:

They say ISI is backing Afghan Taliban. Lets suppose they are right, that means ISI has beaten [CIA+RAW+NDS+NATO (biggest military alliance on the planet)] just like it beat [KGB+KHAD+RAW] in 80s

[mahool]

Re: Military pushing ahead with Afghanistan border fencing

Fencing border is tough but it will be good for both countries.