Is there any real need for this? I see Musharraf has been lading General tauqeer who oversees Pakistani cricket. I’m not sure why. The fact is Mudaasar Nazar has been rightly sacked as coach to the cricket team, yet Waqar younis has been retained as captain despite showing his stupidity by insisting Youhanna take part in net practice even though he was complaining of a shoulder injury.
That faiure to believe one of his own players must have undermined confidence in the captain within the rest of the squad, and above all, it showed a lack of professionalism which is unheard of anywhere else.
In tennis we had another General threatening to ban Aisam for playing with an Israeli at Wimbledon. What was the point of that? Our military is co-operating fully with the USA (military wing of Israel) so why not give the same rights to a player who is only taking part in a sport?
I think we need specialists in sports governing bodies and army should concentrate on other matters to which it is more suited.
But the thing is there are so many generals and when in power the Chief of Army Staff, inorder to stay in power has to keep all generals happy. So army has to araofy its tang every where. Even if they dunno what sports is all abt. Thats ma lovely Pakistan for you
Thanks for replying Fanta. I was about to ask for this to be moved to Pakistan Affairs where it might get more input but we'll wait and see if anyone else has an opinon here first.
I'm like you, I'm as patriotic as any pakistani but I want to see policies which are for the good of Pakistan NOT the army. I think it's clear from the above two examples that the Generals don't know jack about sports and it should be left to professionals. Asif Iqbal would be a good choice for Pak cricket, and anybody who ever played tennis could do a better job than some army muppet who doesn't know when to keep his mouth shut.
In general (no pun intended) I agree, but at the end of the day it depends who is incharge of a particular sports and how much he knows and how much effort he is prepared to put in the development of the particular sport of which he is incharge. While these guys are there because of them being in the army, we should not forget the extremely good development of both hockey and squash under Nur khan's patronage. Look where both sports are now compared to when he was incharge.
Nur Khan might have been wonderful in development of hockey and squash - or it might just have been we had some amazingly talented hockey/squash players at the time. I don't really know enough about it to comment. You can only go by results and Pakistan's results are there for all to see in cricket recently. If Generals can take the credit when things are going well, then they should take the flak when they are going badly.
Best of all, they shouldn't be involved in the first place. Chances are they will make major gaffes like with Aisam the Pakistani tennis player, and now the fiasco involving Youhanna's shoulder injury which at one time was threatening to keep him out of next year's world cup. The army has enough on it's hands and should stay out of sports and entertainment in general.
PT, yeah ok, dunno what you mean but I'm sure you are right!
Why mentioning ONLY MILITARY involvement ?? How about re-quoting it as “POLITICAL INVOLVEMENT” . Its just that Pak has militry Govt right now thats why we have all Gen. on the posts but jub Political Govt hotee hay tu Political aadmee hoteey heen …so it remains the same. Who can forget Mian Mohd Azher and Sulaman Taseer fighting for Pakistan Football Federation’s President seat !
INfact gen Zia has done some good thigns for cricket domesctiacally and in cas of shoaib also , he fought at evry forum for shaib…
yes this youhana incident is unfortunate but gen has dealt with it impeccably by saying its over blown… So i think we should give credit when its due. When he was made chairman board was in deep financial crisis and he made sure board has enough funds by finsiding sponsors for the team despite loss of revenues coz there is no cricket in pakistan.
He also regiestered cricket acadmies in pakistan and now dmoestic structure is being re-designed to improve thigns… Hopefully it will bring good results..
Ok so now Yaawar saeed has been sacked and replaced by whom? Brigadier Khawaja Muhammad Nasir!
Maybe these soldiers should just pad up and play instead of the Pak cricket team as they seem to have so much superior knowledge!
As for Gen Tauqeer saying the incident with Youhanna was overblown, he's full of ****. Younis insisted on him practising in the nets despite the fact he had a bad shoulder injury, the team fell apart as a result, and the results are there for everyone to see.
Xtreem ji, I don't blame Youhana incident as the cause of current bad patch.
Every team has that phase.
Wheather it is Australia, India or South Africa.
But Yawar Saeed did some preety stupid things the last couple months including allowing Saqlain, Shoaib, Razzaq to go to England.
Its more of a bad patch, it will be fine in couple months around.
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you dont have to know all the cricket skills for being a cricket manager..
You need good man -management skills.... and brgdr nasir was a very liked-manager in his previuos stints...
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Correct me if I'm wrong but weren't Gen. Tauqir Zia and Gen. Munawwar Rana appointed officals before the coup?
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Dunno abt Munawar Rana but Gen. Zia was appointed after the coup for sure. Si yea correct yourself :p
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you dont have to know all the cricket skills for being a cricket manager..
You need good man -management skills.... and brgdr nasir was a very liked-manager in his previuos stints...
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Then why was he removed? I think the reason was not handling certain issues correctly :D
Umair saheb, Youhanna incident demonstrates perfectly the stupidity which reigns at the top of Pakistan cricket circles. The stupidest person in this case was Waqar Younis yet he is still captain while everybody else has been sacked. Apart from anything else, his bowling has demostrated his stupidity further still, consistently wasting the new ball in recent matches and then being too big-headed to allow anybody else the chance to do better.
As for Yaawar Saeed allowing those players to go to England last few months, they went to earn money. England and South Africa stopped their players from going abroad by offering paid contracts to their best players. As we haven't done that, how are we going to stop our players from earning a living? By declaring martial law on Pakistani cricket?
The soldiers should keep their noses out of sports at least. That's not what they are paid to do.
The whole discussion seems to be revolving around specific events which have recently taken place. Whether a civilian administrator would have handled them any better is open to endless discussion.
The main point is that should the military as an institution be interferring or taking control of sports. The answer to that is no. But then should they be taking control of the government either? Therein lies the dilemma.
Thats ma lovely Pakistan for you 
