Military and state

Re: Military and state

Capricorn,
your friend seems to have a better percetion of things around...

what i think of your views is this:

point 1.
well, ok, if Bhutto was so great and someone like him, or any 'democratic' leader could have won a better strategic postion for Pakistan with a better plan post 9/11 than Musharraf did, just ponder over this...Bhutto was the one who made a mess of the problems with Bengali Pakistanis in 1971, if he wasnt able to correct that internal issue and exploit it, i wonder how he or someone like him, be it Lucipher himself but an 'elected socalled democrat' for all your lobby cares, could have done something of use for Pakistan against extrenal threat coming from the worlds greatest powers...?

point 2
Hazrat Umar AS was a military commander (general) himself.

point 3
travel in Pakistan and see for yourself, all roads constructed by the Army- FWO, all concerns being administered by the military and so on...compare them with public sector ventures under civil administrations and if you dont see it for yourself, ask a common man on the side walk about the difference; he's the one who feels the impact heaviest and first!

point 4
about the part where you appear confused over the education of military officers. you seem to know a lot, how come you didnt know how educated they are...? before setting out to defame someone one must have enough material to atleast try and present views with reasoning. how old and qualified are ppl like you and me when they go to universities? yes they are around 18-19 and have a Intermediate HSSC, A levels or High school Diploma certifying 12 yrs of education. Thats what military officers have when they go to their academies. what do they do there? what you and I do at universities. that is graduate! they do that with equal importance given to military training, which means they are made tough enough to handle lots of pressure and handle situations, unlike you and I. and after graduating, almost all officers who ever make it anywhere above major, possess atleast one masters level degree earned from a world class renowned institution, if you need proff, meet any officer and ask him, if he doesnt have a degree in strategic affairs, Int'l relations, politics, defense studies, or any subject at all, chances are 7 out of 10 officers he knows of his rank would. so rest assured of their capabilities and educational qualifications and expertise. they are the best, sorry if that gives us civilians a complex...

and, Plato wasnt a prophet...so holding his views like scriptuires is irrational...

the 'Defenders of Pakistan' is the only reason Pakistan remains...

I dont mean to say they should be doing what civilians should do, I just say they are doing it better, because the civilians make a mess out of it as they are too often inspired by self interest and corruption...and yes, there is corruption in the militray too, NOT even close to as much as in the civil administration ranks...thats common knowledge we cant deny.