Re: Milad/Mawlid, celebrating the birth of the Prophet Muhammad (SAW)! (merged)
anyone knows what christmas is called in arabic????
surprise! surprise!
its called "eid milaad"....
gives u a very clear idea of why some muslims think they need to have an equivalent to christmas....
Re: Milad/Mawlid, celebrating the birth of the Prophet Muhammad (SAW)! (merged)
Surprise 2:
Christians Say they worship God
Muslims Say we worship God
IS it the same worship???
Essential conectip of Milad-un-Nabiy has nothing that opposes Islam.
Re: Milad/Mawlid, celebrating the birth of the Prophet Muhammad (SAW)! (merged)
As I mentioned before:
"Wahabies do abuse that word and they declare anything that was not used by the Prophet as "Bidaa" meaning misguidance. They don't understand the saying of Prophet Muhammad.
Islamic Law are alsunna, the teachins of Prophet Muhammad that are taken from al-Qur'an.
Let me derive for you the word Bidaa from al-Qur'an.
Allah said in Quran about the followers of Prophet Issa, Jesus "Wa Rahbaniyyatan ibtada^ooha".
It means they innovated (Ibtada^ooha from Bid^a). They innovated "Rahbaniyyah" which is what the followers used to do. That is they left marriage and detached their hearts from worldy interests. Allah said: "Ma katabnaha ^alayhim" We did not make it a must upon them, rather they innovated it. And it was accepted by Allah.
So, for those who say Bidaa only means misguidance, tell them go learn Islamic information from real people of knowledge, and not fromm flipping pages.
Ibtada^ooha means they innovated it.
Ibtada^a=somone innovated
Yabtadi^o=someone innovating
Bid^a=innovation
It means they innovated (Ibtada^ooha from Bid^a). They innovated "Rahbaniyyah" which is what the followers used to do. That is they left marriage and detached their hearts from worldy interests. Allah said: "Ma katabnaha ^alayhim" We did not make it a must upon them, rather they innovated it. And it was accepted by Allah.
If you need me to collaborate more the linguistic side of it, pleaes don't hesitate to ask, knowledge is not something that anyone should be shy or ashamed to ask about.
If you knew Arabic and you knew the Qur'an, you would have known that the followers of prophet Issa (^alayhi assalam) were true believers in Allah and were true Muslims.
The Ayah in the Qoran was:
وَجَعَلْنَا فِي قُلُوبِ الَّذِينَ اتَّبَعُوهُ رَأْفَةً وَرَحْمَةً وَرَهْبَانِيَّةً ابْتَدَعُوهَا مَا كَتَبْنَاهَا عَلَيْهِمْ إِلاَّ ابْتِغَاء رِضْوَانِ اللهِ فَمَا رَعَوْهَا حَقَّ رِعَايَتِهَا فَآتَيْنَا الَّذِينَ ءامَنُوا مِنْهُمْ أَجْرَهُمْ وَكَثِيرٌ مِّنْهُمْ فَاسِقُونَ
After the word "Ibtada^ooha" (Innovated it) Allah said what means: we did not make it an obligation upon them. They did that clearly for the sake of Allah and His acceptance.. the ayah..
And Allah said about his followers that Allah filled the hearts of the followers of Issa (Jesus) mercy for being obedience to Allah.
Hence, Bid^a is of 2 types: Innovation of Guidance: which is what complies with the Quran, alsunna, Ijma^.
Innovation of Misguidance: which does not comply with the Quran, alsunna, and Ijma^ of the scholars of Islam.
Hundreds of millions of Muslims all over the world optionally but proudly Celebrate the occasion of Miladun-Nabiy, the Birth of Prophet Muhammad sallallahu^alayhi wa sallam. It’s not an obligation to celebrate it, but it’s a good rewardable deed, and certainly it’s not an unlawful or misguided act.
• Muslims join together in love of the Prophet on the day of Mawlid thanking Allah for sending our Prophet as a mercy.
• Muslims join together in al-Mawlid reciting the Qur'an, chanting Islamic praises, telling the story of the Prophet's birth, teaching Religious Knowledge, slaughtering animals to feed to the poor, and gathering to thank and praise Allah and ask Him to exalt the honor of Prophet Muhammad, sallallahu^alayhi wa sallam.
• Over 900 years ago a knowledgeable, and righteous ruler named: al-Mudhaffar, King of Irbil, was the first man to initiate the practice of celebrating al-Mawlid.
• King Al-Mudhaffar made a grand celebration that was attended by many scholars. And he was praised by famous Muslim scholars for doing this great deed.
• Imam As-Suyootiy authored a book about al-Mawlid and named it: “Husnul Maqsid fi ^amalil-Mawlid”. Which shows the great honor of celebrating the birth of Prophet Muhammad.
• The famous scholar of hadith, Abul-Khattab Ibn Dihyah, wrote a book for this king especially to be read during the mawlid celebration.
• Al-Mawlid is a good and rewardable innovation derived from the Qur’an and teachings of the Prophet."
Allah knows best.
Re: Milad/Mawlid, celebrating the birth of the Prophet Muhammad (SAW)! (merged)
See article: Bidaa… What do you understand from that word?
http://www.paklinks.com/gs/showthread.php?t=73890&page=2
Re: Milad/Mawlid, celebrating the birth of the Prophet Muhammad (SAW)! (merged)
Point one: I saw that you made some threads on the similar topic a year ago, eh? Tell me s’th are you trying to discuss and learn and let other’s learn or are you trying to dictate things here.
Point two: You ignored quite a few questions that i’ve asked. Should stop asking? I mean youare advocating a point. Dont you think you should answer the questions being raised?
What is wahabi, please define? and i must appreciate your knowledge brother but can you reffer to the ‘wahabi’ text where you find what they “call as Bidaa”
I’m sure you didnt come up with this defination on your own. If you did the statement is meaningless. If you didnt please give refferences otherwise the statement would be meaningless.
me who? billy the kid?
Amazing, so which Chapter and which Verse are you reffering to brother?
I must say looks like an Arabic Lexicon. a’ways so how did the christan exactly found that what they have inovated “was accepted by Allah (swt)”?
Quran doesnt speak about it or the person teling this doesnt?
Could there be any possiblity that since they did s’th and it “was accpeted by Allah (swt)” it became the part of religion?
Could we possibily use and example that propher Muhammad (s) made the honey haram on himself and it “was not accepted by Allah (swt)” thus muslims dont observe that (honey as haram)
Oh no not at all, e’th is loud and clear as i said seems like coming out of lexicon
So when did incident of the followers innovating s’th took place Issa(as) had passed away from this world?
so your lexicon now thinks that Innovation of Guidance has the arabic Ijma and not Bida-e-hassana?
And your lexicon thinks that "Innovation of Misguidance doesnt have arabic translation?
And the “me” who has given all these details didnt bring out the Hadith of prophet Muhammad (s) in which he talks about Bidaah, why not? Please bring that Hadith and let the viewers see that hadith, its translation and your lexicon’s commentory on it.
And i can carry on the point you made in your post but for the time being lets just hear the answers of the questions asked and we’ll inshaAllah be reaching s’where
Re: Milad/Mawlid, celebrating the birth of the Prophet Muhammad (SAW)! (merged)
bid'ah means innovation and does not mean misguidance....
but a very famous hadith of the Prophet (saw) says "kullu bid'aatun dalaala" (every bid'at is a misguidance)....
Re: Milad/Mawlid, celebrating the birth of the Prophet Muhammad (SAW)! (merged)
so taraveeh in jamaat is a misguidance?
Re: Milad/Mawlid, celebrating the birth of the Prophet Muhammad (SAW)! (merged)
Why am I not surprised that not one person who opposes Mawlid un-Nabi (Sal' Allahu 'alaiyhi wa sallam), has yet to comment on the multitude of proofs which I provided for them in the fatwa?
Brother "smooth_guy" I have a question for you. Just because you see someone performing Mawlid un-Nabi and you pass a judgement on people, does not invalidate the legitimacy of the celebration of the Sayyidina Rasul-Allah's (saws) birth, because you know how you said that his birthday was never celebrated it during his lifetime??? Well let me inform you, that he (saws) not only celebrated his own birthday through the ahadith, but that the Sahaba (radi'Allahu anhum) also celebrated his birth. The Malaa'ikah celebrate his birth, and Allah Jalla jallalu ALSO celebrates his birth in the Qur'an:
To express happiness for the Prophet coming to us is an obligation given by Allah through Qur'an, as Allah said in Qur'an:
This order came because joy makes the heart grateful for the mercy of Allah. And What greater mercy did Allah give than the Prophet himself, of whom Allah says:
Remembrance of the birth of the Prophet encourages us to pray on the Prophet and to praise him, which is an obligation on us through Allah's order in the verse,
"Allah and His angels are praying on (and praising) the Prophet; O believers! pray on (and praise) him and send him utmost greetings" (33:56)
Coming together and remembering the Prophet causes us to pray on him and to praise him. Who has the right to deny the obligation which Allah has ordered us to fulfill through the Holy Qur'an? The benefit brought by obeying an order of Allah, and the light that it brings to our heart, cannot be measured. That obligation, furthermore, is mentioned in the plural: Allah and His angels are praying on and praising the Prophet -- in a gathering. It is entirely incorrect, therefore, to say that praying on and praising the Prophet must be done alone.
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Furthermore, since you want to discuss the meaning of Kullu bidatin dalala hadith, I will give you a very descriptive analysis of the meaning of this hadith and how it applies and what it means. If you wish to know the truth, then please read further below, and if you do not and think you already know everything, may Allah guide you.
Harmala ibn Yahya said:
*I heard Imam ash-Shafi'I (R.A.) saying: *
"al-bidatu bidatan: bida mahmuda wa bida madhmuma, fa ma wafaqa al-sunna fa huwa mahmud, wa ma khalafa al-sunna fa huwa madhmum."
=Innovation is of two kinds: the praiseworthy innovation and the blameworthy innovation. Whatever conforms to the Sunna is praiseworthy, and whatever contravenes the Sunna is blameworthy.
-al-hafiz Abu Nu`aym al-Asbahani cites it in Hilyat al-awliya (9:113);
-al-hafiz Ibn Hajar al-`Asqalani also in Fath al-Bari (13:253);
-al-hafiz Ibn Rajab al-Hanbali also in Jamial-uloom wa al-hikam (p. 291);
-al-hafiz Abu Shama in al-Baithala inkar al-bida` wa al- hawadith, ed. Mashhur -Hasan Salman (Riyadh: Dar al- Raya, 1990/1410) p. 93; Cairo edition, p. 12.
-al-hafiz al-Turtushi al-Maliki, Kitab al-hawadith wa al- bida` (p. 158-159); He himself divided the bid`a into muharrama (forbidden), makruha (disliked), and wajiba (obligatory): p. 15.
-al-hafiz al-Suyuti alludes to it in the introduction to his fatwa on Mawlid entitled Husn al-maqsid fi `amal al-mawlid in al-Hawi li al-fatawi;
-Ibn Taymiyya, Dar' taarud al-aql wa al-naql, ed. Muhammad al-Sayyid Julaynid (Cairo: Mu'assasat al- ahram, 1409/1988) p. 171: "Bayhaqi narrated it in al- Madkhal with a sound chain";
al-hafiz al-Bayhaqi, Manaqib ash-Shafi'i (1:469) in these words: "al-muhdathatu min al-umuri darbani ahaduhuma ma uhditha yukhalifu kitaban aw sunnatan aw atharan aw ijmaan fa hadhihi al-bidatu al-dalalat wa al-thaniyatu ma uhditha min al-khayri la khilafa fihi li wahidin min hadhihi wa hadhihi muhdathatun ghayru madhmuma. =Innovated matters are one of two kinds: one is an innovation which contravenes something in the Qur'an or the Sunna or a report from a Companion or the consensus of he scholars: this is the innovation of misguidance (bid`a dalala); the other kind is whatever good has been innovated which contravenes none of the above, and this is an innovation that is not blameworthy (muhdathatun ghayru madhmuma).
al-Hafiz al-Izz IbnAbd al-Salam said:
There are five types of bid`a:
“Haram (forbidden)
Makhruh (disliked)
Mubah (permitted)
Mandub (praiseworthy)
Wajib (obligatory)."
*Certain people still object: "What about the hadith: *
*kullu bida'tin dalala: "Every innovation is a misguidance"? *
*Doesn't the term "every" include all innovations?" *
Such an objection stems from the misinterpretation of the term kullu ("every") in the hadith to be all-encompassing without exception, whereas in Arabic it may mean "nearly all" or "the vast majority." This is how ash-Shafii understood it or else he would have never allowed for any innovation whatsoever to be considered good, and he is considered a hujja or "proof," that is, a reference without peer for questions regarding the Arabic language. Imam Bayhaqi narrated in his *Manaqib ash-Shafii* (2:42-46):
al-Hasan ibn Habib related from Mahmud al-Misri -- and he was one of those gifted with eloquence -- that Mahmud said: I saw ash-Shafii when I was little, and I heard Ibn Hisham -- and I never set eyes on one from whom I took wisdom such as Ibn Hisham -- say: "I was ash-Shafii's sitting-companion for a long time, and I never heard him use a word except that if that word were carefully considered, one would not find (in its context) a better word than it in the entire Arabic language." Mahmud also said: I also heard Ibn Hisham say: "ash-Shafi`i's discourse, in relation to language, is a proof in itself."
It is also related from al-Hasan ibn Muhammad al- Zafarani: A group of the people of pure Arabic (qawmun min ahl al-arabiyya) used to frequent ash-Shafii's gathering with us and sit in a corner. One day I asked their leader: "You are not interested in scholarship; why do you keep coming here with us?" They said: "We come to hear ash-Shafii's language."
The stylistic figure of meaning the part by the whole, or synecdoche in English, is in Arabic: abbaraan al-kathrati bi al- kulliyya. This is illustrated by the use of kull in verse 46:25 of the Qur'an in a selective or partial sense not a universal sense:
Destroying all things by commandment of its Lord. And morning found them so that naught could be seen save their dwellings.
Thus the dwellings were not destroyed although "all" things had been destroyed. "All" here means specifically the lives of the unbelievers of `Ad and their properties, except their houses. The same applies with the hoopoe-bird's expression when he says that Balkis has been given in abundance from "everything"
Sura al- Naml (27:23);
Whereas she was not given any power over Sulayman nor any share of his kingdom. Similarly when Allah says: *""Every soul (kullu nafsin) shall taste death" *(3:185), it is understood though not mentioned that Allah Himself is excluded from the meaning.
In conclusion, the position of the majority of the scholars is clear: "To invent" (ahdatha) a "new practice" (bid'at) may refer either to the matter that is new linguistically speaking (lafzan), e.g. stone masjids, all the Islamic sciences, writing books about religion, etc. or the matter that is new legally speaking (sharan), e.g. a sixth daily prayer. Since bida usually applies to innovations in religion in the legal sense, the former kind of "new matter" does not qualify as a bid`a and therefore is not prohibited.
The above is the ruling of all the major scholars on the definition of bida. Whoever denies this definition is either ignorant, or actually giving a new definition which is not from the majority of scholars but from one's own whim. Their claim that they are "sticking to the Sunna" is an empty claim which does not fool anybody but themselves and those they sadly misguide. When asked to substantiate it with the criteria of scholarship in the light of the evidence against them, they just instead keep repeating the claim, like parrots, ignoring or affecting to ignore the difference between the claim and the reality of the claim. Their purported "avoidance of bida" is similarly based on their own whimsical conviction that they alone are right although they stray from the larger group. May Allah guide them to the truth.
Re: Milad/Mawlid, celebrating the birth of the Prophet Muhammad (SAW)! (merged)
Shaykh Yusuf al-Qardawi (Egypt) Approves of Celebrating Mawlid
"Actually, celebrating the Prophet's birthday means celebrating the birth of Islam..."
-- Shaykh Yusuf Al-Qardawi
Sheikh Yusuf Al-Qaradawi, likely the most renowned Salafi scholar of the 20th century, in replying to the question on whether Mawlid should be celebrated replied:
We all know that the Companions of the Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, did not celebrate the Prophet's birthday, Hijrah or the Battle of Badr, because they witnessed such events during the lifetime of the Prophet who always remained in their hearts and minds.
Sa`d Ibn Abi Waqqaas said that they were keen on telling their children the stories of the Prophet's battles just as they were keen on teaching them the Qur'an. Therefore, they used to remind their children of what happened during the Prophet's lifetime so they did not need to hold such celebrations.
However, the following generations began to forget such a glorious history and its significance. So such celebrations were held as a means of reviving great events and the values that we can learn from them.
Unfortunately, such celebrations include some innovations when they should actually be made to remind people of the Prophet's life and his call. Actually, celebrating the Prophet's birthday means celebrating the birth of Islam. Such an occasion is meant to remind people of how the Prophet lived.
Allah Almighty says: "Verily in the Messenger of Allah ye have a good example for him who looketh unto Allah and the last Day, and remembereth Allah much." (Al-Ahzab: 21)
By celebrating the Prophet's Hijrah, we should teach them values such as sacrifice, the sacrifice of the Companions, the sacrifice of `Ali who slept in the Prophet's place on the night of the Hijrah, the sacrifice of Asmaa' as she ascended the Mountain of Thawr. We should teach them to plan the way the Prophet planned for his Hijrah, and how to trust in Allah as the Prophet did when Abu Bakr told him: "We could be seen so easily, the Prophet replied saying: "O Abu Bakr! What do you think of two when Allah is their third?" "Have no fear, for Allah is with us." (At-Tawbah: 40)
We need all these lessons and such celebrations are a revival of these lessons and values. I think that these celebrations, if done in the proper way, will serve a great purpose, getting Muslims closer to the teachings of Islam and to the Prophet's Sunnah and life...
[Source: Mufti Islam Online Fatwa Committee Date: Date 19/Apr/2001: Fatwa ID: 34150]
So please...accept the truth, Mawlid un-Nabi is celebrated by the majority of the Muslims in the world, and let me remind you that Qur'an and Sunnah are not the only end of hte line. It is, according to the Shari'ah, which applies to Muslims only, incumbent upon all Muslims to follow the 'ijma or consensus of the majority of the Ulema and Arifin. Please go and take a look at the writings of:
ibn Taymiyya
Hafiz ibn Kathir
ibn Qayyim
ibn Jawzi
Shaykh Ali bin Uthman al-Hujwiri
Shaykh Nizamuddin Awliya
Mujaddid Alf at-Thani Shaykh Ahmed Sirhindi
Shah Wali Ullah Dehlavi
Mullah Ali al-Qari
Muhaddith Abd al-Hayy al-Lucknawi
Shaykh Muhammad ibn 'Alawi al-Makki
Hafiz Shams as-Din al-Dimashqi
Hafiz ibn Hajar al-Asqalani
Hafiz al-Sakhawi
ALL OF THEM FAVOURED THE CELEBRATION OF MAWLID UN-NABI. Please, the moment that regular people like us stop thinking that we are all scholars on Islam or self-made ones, is the moment that the truth will strike you and you will see that this tradition is authenticated and recognized, yes I mean Mawlid un-Nabi. For us to say that it's celebration is wrong, is saying that we know MORE or know better than the 'Ulema as those mentioned above? Astagfir'Allah.
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It is from the Sunna to long for the Prophet after his passing from this life. This is documented in an authentic hadith in which Abu Hurayra narrated that the Prophet said:
"A time will come when any of you will long to see me more than to have his family and property doubled."
Sahih Bukhari, Vol. 4, Book 56, Number 787)
Now how does one long to see the Prophet (saws), better than remembering him and celebrating his Mawlid every second and every day and every moment of their lives, than those who revere and praise Rasul-Allah (saws) to the status to which he surely deserves?
But we in turn think that we can pass judgements?
When Allah Jalla Jalalu orders us in the Qur'an al-Karim:
"O Believers, send blessings and utmost salutations on him
(33:56
Sayyidina Rasul-Allah (SAWS) has said
"Whoever invokes blessings on me at my grave, I hear him, and whoever invokes blessings on me from afar, I am informed about it."
"No one greets me except Allah has returned my soul to me so that I can return his Salam."
Suyuti in Anba' al-adhkiya' bi hayat al-ambiya' said:
that radda means `ala al-dawam, i.e. permanently, and not temporarily: in other words, Allah does not return the soul and take it back, then return it again and then take it back again, but He has returned it to the Prophet permanently, and the Prophet is alive permanently, not intermittently as some ignorant people have suggested. To those who would differ with Imam Suyuti we say: his proof is irrefutable, since there are always people at prayer in the world during the entire twenty-four hour cycle, and sending salawat on the Prophet is part of salat. It follows that people are constantly invoking blessings and greetings on the Prophet without stop in the world, and that he is constantly returning it. This shows that the hadith of the Prophet on the return of his soul takes into consideration the continuity of prayer concomitant with the revolving five times of prayer around the world, and that indeed he is alive in permanence, since Allah has entitled him to return every single Salam that is made to him.
Nor is the appropriate time for standing while making salawat only at the time of Mawlid, but at any time, such as after salat, after Jum`a prayer, individually or in congregation. It is a voluntary act of worship that no one can forbid others from performing for the sake of obeying Allah.
Are we to say that we know more or know better than Hafiz Jalaluddin al-Suyuti a master of ahadith and Qur'an?
May Allah Jalla Jalalu guide the Ummah or our Master Muhammad Sal' Allahu 'alaiyhi wa sallam, towards the right path once again by honouring him, knowing his respected status. May he grant us his Shifa'at, to benefit us and raise us up so that we meet him at the Hawd of Kawthar, and that he may be pleased with us. Ameen.
Re: Milad/Mawlid, celebrating the birth of the Prophet Muhammad (SAW)! (merged)
when ppl told umar (ra) that taraweeh in a jamaat is bid’ah, he replied by saying “what a nice bid’ah” he did not mean that bid’ah can be good…
what he meant was to mock the questioners or indirectly telling them that this is not a bid’ah…
its strange how u compare the shirk and bid’ah and jahaalat involved in milaad celebrations to taraweeh… 
Re: Milad/Mawlid, celebrating the birth of the Prophet Muhammad (SAW)! (merged)
Some more information to cultivate your understanding of the traditions of
Ahl as-Sunnah wa'l Jam'aah, and to show you that the birth of Rasul-Allah (SAWS) has always been celebrated, on one way or another, whether anyone likes it or not. For one person to say no or object to Mawlid un-Nabi because they see something they dislike, it is better for you to approach the situation with positive advice on how to resolve a problem, rather than condemn the whole entire celebration of mawlid un-nabi. Please, I share with you the following sayings:
The uncle of the Prophet al-Abbas ibnAbd al-Muttalib (RA) said about Rasul-Allah (SAWS):
And then, WHEN YOU WERE BORN, a light rose over the earth until it illuminated the horizon with its radiance. We are in that illumination and that original light and those paths of guidance and thanks to them we pierce through
Ibn Sayyid al-Nas narrated it with his isnad through al-Tabarani and al-Bazzar in Minah al-Madh (p. 192-193),
also Ibn Kathir in al-Sira al-Nabawiyya (ed. Mustafa `Abd al-Wahid 4:51),
and Ali al-Qari in his Sharh al-Shifa (1:364) says it is narrated by Abu Bakr al-Shafii and al-Tabarani, and cited by IbnAbd al-Barr in al-Istiab and Ibn al-Qayyim in Zad al-Maad.
The light mentioned by al-`Abbas is confirmed by the Prophet himself in the famous narration describing his own birth.
*`Irbad ibn Sariya and Abu Umama - Allah be well-pleased with both of them - said that the Prophet said: *
*"I am the supplication of my father Ibrahim, and the good tidings of my brother `Isa. The NIGHT I WAS DELIVERED my mother saw a light that lit the castles of Damascus so that she could see them." *
It is narrated by al-Hakim (2:616-617),
Ahmad in his Musnad,
and al-Bayhaqi in Dala`il al-Nubuwwa (1:110, 2:8).
Ibn al-Jawzi cites it in al-Wafa` (p. 91, ch. 21 of Bidayat Nabiyyina
and his Tafsir (4:360).
Al-Haythami (8:221) said al-Tabarani and Ahmad narrated it, the latter with a fair (hasan) chain.
Also narrated by Ibn Hisham in Sirat Rasul Allah (Dar al-wifaq ed. 1/2:166) and al-Tabari in his History.
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It's strange how some people don't know how to love the one whom Allah loves the most, the one whom Allah jalla jalalu praises and salutes in the Qur'an, yet you do not.
Just like Iblis refusing to obey Allah Jalla Jalalu by bowing before Sayyidina Adam (as), and keep in mind that Iblis believes in Allah, but he is not believing in Adam (as), as being Allah's deputy on Earth, and that is why he (Iblis) was cast into the fire and given respite until yawm al-qiyamat.
So, just like Iblis, even though we believe in Allah Subhanahu wa ta 'ala, yet do not accept Sayyidina Muhammad al-Mustafa (saws) as our Master, or Shafi'i, or leader who shall speak on our behalf as our lawyer to Allah Subhanahu wa ta'ala, if we believe in Allah but not in the Rasul, and say that he is just dead and was a normal human being like everyone else, that he came and is now gone....??? What in the heck is wrong with Muslims these days to even utter such God forsaken words?
To deny other Muslims and accuse them of doing wrong, just because they have a deep LOVE for Rasul-Allah (saws) and wish to show it by honouring his Mawlid? This is not a bid'ah, this is LOVE for him. Those who object, are foolish and narrow minded, and have most definitely not at all studied the vast and widely available history of Islamic works throughout the entire Muslim world, on the topic of Mawlid un-Nabi, all the way from Morocco, to Xing Xiang Province in China, to Sri Lanka, to Somalia, to Bosnia, and throughout the entire Middle East, is where you will find classical Ahl' as-Sunnah 'Ulema who have NEVER objected to the practice of Mawlid un-Nabi.
This topic needs no more discussion by me, I believe that any objectioner should have enough sense to realize that what they have said against Mawlid is nothing more than based on their own NAFS, and is not based on being honest to themselves...Allahu 'Alam.
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armughal wrote:
*when ppl told umar (ra) that taraweeh in a jamaat is bid’ah, he replied by saying “what a nice bid’ah” he did not mean that bid’ah can be good…
what he meant was to mock the questioners or indirectly telling them that this is not a bid’ah…
its strange how u compare the shirk and bid’ah and jahaalat involved in milaad celebrations to taraweeh… *
Sayyidina Khalif ar-Rashid Umar al-Faruq (radi’Allahu anh’), implented a practice that was not during the time of Rasul-Allah (sal’ Allahu 'alaiyhi wa sallam), and that is a FACT “armughal.”
That was the practice which was never practiced during the lifetime of Rasul-Allah (saws), and that is the point which was clearly made., YET it is fully accepted and acceptable to the mass body of Muslims, belonging to Ahl’ as-Sunnah wa’l Jama’ah.
If you cannot grasp that Sayyidina Umar al-Faruq (ra) introduced a good bid’ah after what I have explained, and then I don’t know what to tell you.
Re: Milad/Mawlid, celebrating the birth of the Prophet Muhammad (SAW)! (merged)
lets see what our classical scholars havb to say abt bidaah....
Abdullaah ibn Umar (RA) states, "every innovation is misguidance, even if the people regard it as GOOD." (ad-Daarimee)
Mu'aadh bin Jabal (RA) used to say, whenever he sat in a circle of knowledge, "and I warn you of what is innovated, for all that is innovated is misguidance" [ash-Sharee'ah pg.55, also Abu Dawood with similar wording]
Abdullaah ibn Mas'ud (RA) said, "follow the sunnah of Muhammad and do not innovate, for what you have been commanded is enough for you." [ad-Daarimee]
Hudhayfah bin al-Yaman said, "every act of worship that the Companions did not do, do not do it" [Abu Dawood]
Is this not enough? That the Companions tell us to follow the way of Muhammad (SAW) and not to make up new ways of worship?
"whomsoever Allaah guides to the truth, none can misguide him, and whomsoever Allaah misguides, none can guide"! [Muslim]
also lets put some icing to the cake with some sayongs from our respected Imaams-
Imaam Abu Haneefah said, "stick to the narrations and the way of the salaf, and beware of the newly invented matters for all of it is innovation" [Sawnul Muntaq of as-Suyutee pg.32]
Imaam Maalik said, "he who innovates an innovation in Islaam regarding it as something good, has claimed that Muhammad (SAW) has betrayed his trust to deliver the message as Allaah says, 'this day have I perfected for you your religion'. And whatsoever was not part of the religion then, is not part of the religion today." [al-I'tisaam]
He also said, "how evil are the People of Innovation, we do not give them salaam" [al-Ibaanah of ibn Battah (d.387) no.441]
Imaam Ahmad said, "the fundamental principles of the sunnah with us are:.avoiding innovations and every innovation is misguidance" [Usul as-Sunnah of Imaam Ahmad pg.1]
As for the narrations from Imaam ash-Shaafi'ee in which he categorises bid'ah into two, then it is weak as all of it's chains of narrations depend upon unknown narrators. [al-Bid'ah of Shaykh Saleem al-Hilaalee, al-Masaabeeh fee Salaatit Taraaweeh of as-Suyutee with Alee Hasans footnotes]. Not only this but in his risalah he rejects the concept of istihsaan because 'the person doing so has legislated in the sharee'ah' i.e. without permission from Allaah.
Imaam Bukhaaree said, "I have met more than a thousand scholars.(then he mentioned the names of the more prominent in each of the lands that he travelled in) and I found that they all agreed on the following points: they all used to prohibit bid'ah - that which the Prophet and his Companions were not upon, because of the saying of Allaah, 'and hold fast to the rope of Allaah and do not separate'" [Imaam Bukhaaree's article on belief as quoted in Sharh Usul I'tiqaad 1/170. From amongst the scholars he met were: Ahmad bin Hanbal, Abu Ubaid al-Qaasim, ibn Ma'een, ibn Aasim, ibn Abee Shaybah.]
What I have narrated here is just a small number of the many narrations that I have in front of me from various books, I have tried to quote as best to my ability only authentic narrations, and Allaah knows best. It is good to know that the early Imaams were prolific in writing and warning against bid'ah, and even today we have a number of books from them dealing just with this topic. Amongst them: al-Bid'ah of al-Qarnushi, al-Bid'ah of ibn Waddah, al-I'tisaam of ash-Shaatibee and many more.
So once this topic becomes clear, a truth that none can deny, then know that all these innovations in the religions are a clear denial of the above mentioned verses and ahaadeeth, for none were done by the Companions.
So I leave you with the hadeeth of the Prophet (SAW), "so he who follows my sunnah has been guided, and he who follows the innovations has been destroyed." (Ahmad)
And our Lord the Most High is the One that guides to attaining the truth.
if you want brother i can giv u info n leaflets on the concept of bidah and what exactly is a bidah. many people talk abt bidah as if its a small topic but it isnt.
its amazing i hav to giv the sayings of the imaams when clearly the Saying of Prophet Muhammad(saw) shud b enuff for us.
In this regard the Prophet (SAW) said, "I warn you of the newly invented matters (in the religion),and every newly invented matter is an innovation, and every innovation is misguidance, and every misguidance is in the Hellfire" (an-Nasaa'ee)
And he (SAW) used to say at the beginning of his lectures, "and the best speech is the Speech of Allah, and the best guidance is the guidance of Muhammad (SAW), and the worst of all affairs are the newly invented matters (in the religion)" (Muslim)
And he (SAW) commanded us, "whosoever does an action which we have not commanded then it must be rejected." (Muslim)
And again, "whosoever introduces into this religion of ours that which is not part of it then it must be rejected" (Ahmad)
'And in this hadeeth is a clear evidence that every action which is not legislated in the sharee'ah must be rejected' [Jaami al-Ulum of ibn Rajab 1/120]
So every bid'ah that is introduced in the religion has to be rejected because only Allaah and His Messenger (SAW) have the right to legislate in the sharee'ah of Islaam.
Hence in the light of what has preceded we can now give the formal sharee'ah definition of bid'ah:
"a newly invented way (in beliefs and actions) in the religion, in imitation of the Sharee'ah, by which nearness to Allaah is sought, not being supported by any authentic proof, neither in it's foundations nor in the manner in which it is performed." [al-I'tisaam 1/231 of ash-Shaatibee]
hope you find this useful. and insha-Allah if u do hav answer make sure you qoute from qur'aan and sunnah and not yr whims n desires as i will not reply to yr whims and desires.
Re: Milad/Mawlid, celebrating the birth of the Prophet Muhammad (SAW)! (merged)
You are attempting to challenge the understanding of Bid’ah as according to Imam Nawawi, Imam ash Shafi’e…may Allah guide you. It is funny how all of your quotes come from Khwararij sources, and you only quote ahadith which talk about bid’ah, but you don’t mention any ahadith where Rasul-Allah (saws) talks about any matter which is not something that I did, but does not contrevene what I did, then it is acceptable. Nor are you a scholar of hadith, (muhaddith), and nor are you a scholar with ijazat (licence) to teach in this matter. So who are you to pass edicts about this subject of Mawlid un-Nabi basing it all on your NAFS…Fee Aman Allah.
The answer to your wariness lies within this article:
Mufti Taqi Usmani’s Fatwa on Mawlid
Comments on Mufti Taqi Usmani’s Fatwa on Mawlid
by GF Haddad
Bismillah al-Rahman al-Rahim
{ Obey Allah, and Obey the Messenger and those in authority among you} .
“None of you is a believer until he loves me [Muhammad] more than his own soul.” (Sahih al-Bukhari)
On http://www.albalagh.net/taqi.shtml, a page in English devoted to Mufti Taqi Usmani says verbatim that “[He] is one of the leading Islamic scholars living today. Author of more than 40 books, he is an expert in the fields of Islamic law, Economics and Hadith. For the past 35 years, he has been teaching at the Darul-Uloom in Karachi that was established by his father Mufti Muhammad Shafi, the late Grand Mufti of Pakistan. He also holds a degree in law and is a Judge at the Sharia Appellate Bench of the Supreme Court of Pakistan. He is a consultant to several international Islamic financial institutions and has played a key part in the move toward interest free banking and the establishment of Islamic financial institutions. He is the deputy chairman of the Jeddah based Islamic Fiqh Council of the Organization of Islamic Conference (OIC).”
On http://www.albalagh.net/general/rabi-ul-awwal.shtml another page in English features Mufti Taqi Usmani’s fatwa on Mawlid.
From the latter page I’ve excerpted the following statements as they were posted verbatim as of 11 July, 2000, in their order of appearance in the text. I’ve numbered them for easier perusal and reference. After each excerpt, I’ve added a few comments according to need, in conformity with the duty enjoined on us by the Prophet of Nasiha - sincere faithfulness to Allah and sincere, faithful advice to the Muslims.
These comments were written in the light of what I have learnt through the immense mercy of Allah Most High at the hands of our Sunni Naqshbandi Shuyukh - may Allah grant them long life and health - at their forefront Mawlana al-Shaykh Nazim al-Haqqani, shedding much-needed light on the numerous misconceptions and misrepresentations of this fatwa.
It is left to the Muslim reader to verify firsthand to what extent such a fatwa by Mufti Taqi Usmani is based on fact and on the sources of Islam which are Qur’an, Sunna, Ijma` and Qiyas. And may Allah send uninterrupted blessings and peace on the first and foremost subject of these lines, Sayyidina Muhammad, and grant him the Wasila and Highmost Station of Intercession for Mankind, and upon his Family and all his Companions. Amin.
Mufti Taqi Usmani said:
Usmani that the night of the Mawlid Sharif is of greater significance and merit than Laylat al-Qadr which is the position of some of the Maliki Imams as cited by Abu al-Abbas al-Wansharisi (d. 914) in his encyclopdia of Maliki fatwas titled _al-Miyar al-Murab wa al-Jami al-Mughrib fi Fatawa Ahl Ifriqya wa al-Andalus wa al-Maghrib (11:280-285). Similarly, the Maliki Hadith Master and Imam, al-Sayyid al-Sharif Muhammad ibn Jafar al-Kattani stated in his book al-Yumn wa al-Isad bi Mawlid Khayr al-Ibad (p. 21): “The two nights of the distinguished noble birth and the magnificent Prophetic Ascension appear to be the very best of the nights of the world without hesitation nor doubt… and if this is the case then such as these two nights MAWLID and MIRAJ] deserve to be taken henceforth each as a recurring festival among other recurring festivals (Eid min al-A`yad) and as a seasonal celebration (mawsim) among other seasonal celebrations devoted to good deeds and striving. Therefore those dates should be respected and venerated, the Book of Allah should be recited in them, and in their honor deeds should be performed that indicate joy and happiness at their immense merit as well as thankfulness to Allah Most High for His blessings and favors in them. This the Law in no way denies nor condemns, and no reprimand nor prohibition can be directed at those who perform this whatsoever.”Eids that are sanctioned by the Law as of a required character, but this is not to mean that it is not allowed to have other Eids metaphorically speaking. For one, the Prophet himself named Jumua a Eid.a, the day of Eid, and the visit of a beloved friend: These are three Eids for which I thank our Most High Lord." In fact, every highlighted date in the Islamic calendar is a Eid, for example the first ten days of Dhu al-Hijja, the Day of Arafa, the Day of Ashura, Laylat al-Qadr, and the night of Miraj which is the greatest mujiza of the Prophet after the Glorious Qur’an. But the Mawlid of the Prophet looms larger and more important than all of the above including the two prescribed Eids in Islam. Sayyid Muhammad al-Maliki said in his fatwa _Hawl al-Ihtifal bi Dhikra al-Mawlid al-Nabawi al-Sharif_ (p. 8-9): "How many times did we say that the day of the Mawlid of our Master Muhammad is not a Eid, nor do we consider it a Eid, because it is BIGGER THAN THE EID AND GREATER AND NOBLER. A `Eid only comes once a year, as for the celebration of his Mawlid and the consideration of his remembrance and Sira, they must be permanent and not restricted to a particular time nor place!”Eid that it correspond to a birthday, nor, inversely, does the nature of birthday preclude a day from being considered a Eid. Secondly, it is patently false that the origin of the two Eids cannot be attributed to any particular event of history that had happened on these dates as the books of Tafsir are replete with the story of the sacrifice of Ibrahim (as) with his son Ismail (as) on the occasion of which was offered a huge ram as stated in the Holy Qur’an.Eid that takes place at the completion of Hajj has historical connections according to the authorities of Tafsir. We might say also that the Eid that takes place at the completion of the month of Ramadan, was also given an historical dimension by Allah Most High when He said that fasting is prescribed for us { just as it was prescribed for those before you} . All this shows that Allah Most High did not place these two Pillars in a vacuum but in a historical whole of which Muslims are eminently supposed to be aware and observant, just as the Prophet said in reaction to the Jewish celebration of `Ashura’: “We have more right of remembering Musa” i.e. of commemorating the historical circumstance of his deliverance. Most of the Ulema who wrote fatwas on Mawlid adduce this report as a proof of the desirability of the celebration of Mawlid and its licit character in the Law.illa) for this act of devotion as shown in the Sahih and as illustrated by the commentators of those narrations, among them Ibn Khuzayma and his student Ibn Hibban, each one of them in his Sahih. And this suffices as evidence for those endowed with sight. "[Subheading:] Mention of the Desirability of the Fast of Yawm al-Ithnayn BECAUSE (li'anna) on that Day was Born Rasulullah and on that Day Descended upon Him the Beginning of Revelation." Sahih Ibn Hibban (Arna'ut ed. 8:403). "Chapter of the Desirability of the Fast of Yawm al-Ithnayn SINCE (idh) the Prophet was Born on Yawm al-Ithnayn and on that Day Revelation Came to Him and on that Day He Died." Sahih Ibn Khuzayma (Azami ed. 3:298).Isa (as) was born precisely for that reason and no other. The narration goes, "Then he reached a land where the palaces of al-Shaam became visible to him. Gibril said to him: 'Alight and pray.' He did so and remounted, then the Buraq continued his lightning flight and Gibril said: 'Do you know where you prayed?' He said no. Gibril said: 'You prayed in Bayt Lahm, where Isa ibn Maryam was born.'" Narrated as part of a longer hadith from Anas by al-Nasa’i with a sound chain and from Shaddad ibn Aws by al-Bayhaqi who declared it sound in Dala’il al-Nubuwwa (2:355-357), and by al-Tabarani in al-Kabir and al-Bazzar with a sound chain as indicated by al-Haythami in Majma al-Zawa'id and Ibn Hajar in Mukhtasar Zawa'id Musnad al-Bazzar (1:90-91 #32). Secondly, the prescription of the commemoration of the birth of Christ *was* prescribed in the early Christian Church, even if its chronological proximity to the pagan commemoration of the winter solstice was co-opted by the political authorities as a means to recycle prevalent social customs in certain regions including those of pagan origins. Thirdly, what flimsier way to adduce evidence is there than to cite tampered Scriptural texts in order to infer or disinfer a Sharia ruling? Is Mufti Taqi `Usmani a Christian or Jew addressing Christians or Jews??ala ra'si kulli hawl". Al-Bayhaqi also narrated in Shuab al-Imaan (6:201 #7901) that the Prophet said: “Whoever visits the grave of his parents or the grave of one of them every Friday, he will be forgiven and [his name will] be written among the pious sons.” (Man zaara qabra abawayhi aw ahadihima fi kulli Jumuah, ghufira lahu wa kutiba barran). And he is without the shadow of a doubt the most pious of all pious sons. Also, al-Bazzar narrates that the Prophet visited the Jannat al-Mala graveyard in Makkah, where his dear wife Sayyidah Khadijah was buried and called the whole place a blessed graveyard: "Nima al-Maqbarah Hadhihi." Imam Jafar al-Sadiq narrated with his chain from al-Hasan ibn Ali that Fatima the daughter of the Prophet used to visit every Jumua the grave of her uncle Hamza ibn Abd al-Muttalib - may Allah be well-pleased with all of them! - which she had marked with a rock in order to recognize it, and she used to pray and weep there as narrated by Abd al-Razzaq in his Musannaf, al-Bayhaqi in al-Sunan, al-Hakim in his Mustadrak and he declared its chain sahih, and Ibn `Abd al-Barr in al-Tamhid.Abd al-Wahhab titled al-Tawhid. Comment [from Brother Ahmad I on msa-ec mail list, 11 July 2000]: The Ulama of Deoband celebrated their hundred years anniversary of Darul Uloom Deoband in which they called Indhira Ghandi who was dressed in a Sarrie. She was seated on the stage while hundreds of Ulama were seated on the ground. Was this Islamic? Early Muslims did not celebrate hundred years establishment of Islam which was far more important that the establishment of Darul Uloom Deoband. According to you, our Nabi (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) did not celebrate birthdays and anniversaries. If the Ulama-e-Deoband claim to be true followers of the Sunnah, why then did they celebrate the hundred year anniversary of Darul Uloom Deoband? Was this not a Bidat?a one ends up when free rein is given to speculation and personal or regional pretexts such as the bad things one has experienced or seen in one's province. Has Mufti Taqi Usmani never heard of "merrymaking and rejoicing" in the authentic Sunna? The Sahaba and the Prophet definitely were not, as he seems to imagine, staid officials of rigid and censorious manners although they were the most dignified generation of human beings ever to walk the earth. They knew laughter, merriment, and good humor. Nor is his harping on "the example of Christmas" when referring to Muslims acceptable. One well-known contributor on the newsgroup soc.religion.islam, Abd al-Rahman Lomax, said in a thread titled “Re: Al-Mawled ( 6/7 ) : EvenEid, then Eid celebrations should have been banned, either in absolute terms or in temporary and local terms. But isolated incidents are never a proof in ruling for or against something.a, which violates the principles and methods of the Jumhur of Sunni Ulema as to what constitutes bida and what does not. The Ulema have clarified this major methodological innovation in many useful publications which we have summarized elsewhere and there is no space nor need to reproduce this material here. Suffice it here to quote the words of Sayyid Muhammad al-Maliki - Allah keep him and all our impeccable Ulema and true Teachers - in one of his fatwas on Mawlid: "There is no doubt that such singing, dancing, reciting of poetry, and banging the drum [as narrated in the authentic Sunna] was for joy at being with the Prophet , nor did he condemn nor frown upon such displays in any way whatsoever. These are common displays of happiness and lawful merriment, and similarly to stand up at the mention of the birth of the Prophet is an ordinary act that shows love and gladness symbolizing the joy of creation: it does not constitute worship, nor law, nor Sunna!" It is also ironic that the verse they quote: { This day have I perfected your religion for you and completed My favor unto you} (5:3) was revealed on a Monday, the day of his Mawlid - Allah bless and greet him and his Family - according to some reports narrated by Ibn Asakir as mentioned by al-Salihi in Subul al-Huda (1:401).a? When the critics are unable to disprove the lawful on the basis of the foundations of the Religion, they turn to vacuous opinion unaware that in the field of opinion there are plenty of more trusted sources than themselves. Imam al-Dhahabi wrote in his Siyar Alam al-Nubala’ (Arna’ut ed. 22:335-336): He [Muzaffar the King of Irbil] loved charity (sadaqa)… and built four hospices for the poor and sick… and one house for women, one for orphans, one for the homeless, and he himself used to visit the sick… He built a madrasa for the Shafiis and the Hanafis... HE WOULD FORBID ANY REPREHENSIBLE MATTER TO ENTER INTO HIS COUNTRY... As for his celebration of the Noble Mawlid al-Nabawi, words are too poor to describe it. The people used to come all the way from Iraq and Algeria to attend it. Two wooden dais would be erected and decorated for him and his wife... the celebration would last several days, and a huge quantity of cows and camels would be brought out to be sacrificed and cooked in different ways... Preachers would roam the field exhorting the people. Great sums were spent (as charity). Ibn Dihya compiled a 'Book of Mawlid' for him for which he received 1,000 dinars. He [Muzaffar] was modest, a LOVER OF GOOD, AND A TRUE SUNNI who loved scholars of jurisprudence and scholars of hadith, and was generous even to poets. He was killed in battle according to what is reported." Similarly, Ibn Kathir said in al-Bidaya wa al-Nihaya (Beirut and Riyadh: Maktabat al-Maarif & Maktabat al-Nasr, 1966 ed. 13:136-137): "He [Muzaffar] used to celebrate the noble Mawlid in Rabi al-Awwal and organize huge festivities for it. He was a wise king, brave, a fierce fighter, intelligent, learned, and just. May Allah have mercy on him and ennoble his grave. Shaykh Abu al-Khattab ibn Dihya compiled for him a book on the Mawlid of the Prophet and named it al-Tanwir fi Mawlid al-Bashir al-Nadhir ("The illumination concerning the birthday of the Bringer of glad tidings and Warner") and the king rewarded him with 1,000 dinars for it. His rule lasted until he died in the year 630 [Hijri] as he was besieging the French in the city of Acca [Acre, Palestine] after a GLORIOUS AND BLAMELESS LIFE." From the above excerpts one can judge the shameless audacity of the statement of Majlis al-Ulama or rather al-Juhala’ which said:arif (p. 185): "The VAST MAJORITY hold that he [the Prophet, Allah bless and greet him] was born on the Second Day of the Week (al-Ithnayn = "Monday") 12 Rabi al-Awwal… in the Year of the Elephant."Ali al-Nadwi, the Egyptian astronomer Mahmud Basha, and Muhammad Sulayman al-Mansur Furi, the latter two footnoted in al-Nadwi's _al-Sira al-Nabawiyya_ (p. 99). Nor has it been the adab of the true Ulema to scorn what the majority of the Ulema concur on as true and correct, as illustrated by the refined, scholarly style of our teacher Dr. Nur al-Din Itr in mentioning both dates in his Mawlid book, al-Nafahat al-Itriyya fi Sirat Khayr al-Bariyya (p. 5-6): "He was born on the ninth of Rabi al-Awwal according to the verification of some of the Imams or on the 12th according to the most famous position (al-mashhur) in the Umma." The Moroccan Shaykh of Tanalt (Great Atlas chain in South Morocco) al-Dadisi Muhammad al-Ghali did not even mention the 9th in his Sira compendium _Laft al-Anzar ila Qurrat al-Absar fi Sirat al-Mushaffa al-Mukhtar_ (p. 38-39): "On the day of al-Ithnayn in the most radiant month, on the 3rd or the 12th or the 8th of Rabi al-Awwal." Nor does the hadith master al-Salihi mention the 9th at all in his encyclopedia of all Siras, Subul al-Huda wa al-Rashad fi Sirat Khayr al-Ibad (1:403) but only, in order of strength among the Ulema: the 12th, 8th, 10th [preferred by al-Dhahabi in the Siyar (1:21) after his teacher Abu Muhammad al-Dimyati], 2nd, 17th, 18th, or 1st of Rabi al-Awwal.id Ramadan al-Buti mentions the 12th exclusively of any other date in his _Fiqh al-Sira al-Nabawiyya_ (10th ed.). Where, then, are the irresponsibly-claimed "majority of the authentic scholars" or are all the above scholars frauds? Furthermore, the author himself categorically stated at the beginning of his fatwa (item #1) that "Rabi'ul-Awwal is the most significant month in Islamic history because humanity was blessed in this month by the birth of the Holy Prophet " although there are also other months reported in the Sunna for the event of his noble birth, such as Safar, Rajab, Ramadan, and Rabi al-Thani, cf. Ibn Rajab, Lata’if (p. 184) and al-Haytami, al-Minah al-Makkiyya (1:181). If the author does not know this discrepancy in relation to the month then perhaps there are gaps in his knowledge of the facts in relation to the day and other aspects as well. And if the author does know this discrepancy in relation to the months then why does he speak in categorical terms to affirm the month of Rabi` al-Awwal then turns dubious when it comes to the day of the 12th?Abd al-Aziz al-Dabbagh in al-Ibriz, the Prophet was born in the last third of the night, and this is supported by al-Hakim’s narration from A'isha and al-Tabarani, al-Bayhaqi, and Ibn al-Sakan's from Fatima bint Abd Allah al-Thaqafiyya; although the Hadith Master Zayn al-Din al-Iraqi in his _al-Mawrid al-Hani fi al-Mawlid al-Sani_ adduces from the Siyar evidence that it took place in the daytime; and the Sunan state at noon - mursal from Said ibn al-Musayyib - as well as Ibn Dihya and al-Zarkashi in his Sharh al-Burda, but Allah Almighty knows best and the Prophet knows best.a because conferences and talks about the Sira have no precedent in the Sunna nor in the practice of the pious early centuries! Rather, the Sunna shows that the Sahaba would stand and declaim/sing poetry in praise of the Prophet and that he would reward them lavishly as he did with Kab, Abd Allah ibn Rawaha, Hassan ibn Thabit, Qurra ibn Hubayr and many others. As for the assertion that "this pious act should be performed in all the months and at all the times" its absurdity is evident for all to see in light of the prohibition of the same act in the month of Rabi al-Awwal and specifically the 12th of that month, although these two times fall within the time frame of “all the months and at all the times”!a according to this man's own criterion. This new, imposed condition that such meetings must not be restricted to a particular month, shows that he readily considers those meetings a part of the Sharia when he himself said that Allah has completed the Religion, and such meetings were neither revealed to the Prophet as part of it nor practiced by the early generations! And what is the status of someone who declares the belief of the vast majority of the Muslims a bid`a? Allah is our recourse and help against the entanglements of would-be legislators who break the ranks of Sunni unity and ask the people to follow them in their errings.a". (Fatawa Shaami: Kitabul Jana'iz - Discussion on visiting the graves) Allama Shaami (radi Allahu anhu) has stated categorically that inter-mingling of sexes will not make any Mustahab act Haraam or avoided. There were idols in the Kaaba before Makkah was conquered, but Muslims did not leave out performing the Tawaaf (circumbulation) or Umrah because of the idols. Yes,when Almighty Allah gave them the power, they eventually destroyed the idols. When people go for Haj, there is inter-mingling of sexes at the airport, in the plane, during Tawaaf,at Mina and at Muzdalifah, yet no one puts a stop to Hajj. In Meelad gatherings, at least men and women sit separately and women are with Hijab. In the Nikah assembly, inter-mingling of sexes occurs and most of the women do not come with Shari Hijab. Will the Majlisul Ulama issue Fatwas condemning Nikah gathering to be Haraam? If not, why then is your entire effort spent to make Meelaad functions Haraam?Abbas al-Azafi and his son Abul Qasim al-Azafi wrote in their unpublished Kitab ad-Durr al-Munazzam: "Pious pilgrims and prominent travellers testified that, on the day of the mawlid in Mecca, no activities are undertaken, and nothing is sold or bought, except by the people who are busy visiting his noble birthplace, and rush to it. On this day the Kaba is opened and visited."ba is opened by the head of the Banu Shayba, the doorkeepers of the Kaba, and that on the Mawlid, the Shafi`i qadi (head judge) of Mecca, Najmuddin Muhammad Ibn al-Imam Muhyiddin al-Tabari, distributes food to the shurafa’ (descendants of the Prophet) and to all the other people of Mecca. al-Latif fi Fadl Makka wa Ahliha, p. 326; Imam Ibn Hajar al-Haytami in his Kitab al-Mawlid al-Sharif al-Muazzam; and the historian al-Nahrawali in al-Ilam bi-Alam Bayt Allah al-Haram, p. 205 said that each year on the 12th of Rabi al-Awwal, after the salat al-Maghrib, the four qadis of Mecca (representing the Four Schools) and large groups of people including the fuqaha' (scholars) and fudala' (notables) of Mecca, shaykhs, zawiya teachers and their students, ru'asa' (magistrates), and mutaammamin (scholars) leave the mosque and set out collectively for a visit to the birthplace of the Prophet, shouting out dhikr and tahlil (LA ILAHA ILLALLAH). The houses on the route are illuminated with numerous lanterns and large candles, and a great many people are out and about. They all wear their best attire and take their children with them. Having reached the birthplace, inside a special sermon for the occasion of the birthday of the Prophet e is delivered, mentioning the miracles (karamat) that took place on that occasion. Hereafter the dua' for the Sultan (i.e. the Caliph), the Emir of Mecca, and the Shafii qadi is performed and all pray humbly. Shortly before the salat al-Isha', the whole party returns from the birthplace of the Prophet e to the Great Mosque, which is almost overcrowded, and all sit down in rows at the foot of the Maqam Ibrahim. In the mosque, a preacher first mentions the tahmid (AL HAMDULILLAH) and the tahlil, and once again the dua’ for the Sultan, the Emir, and the Shafii qadi is performed. After this the call for the Salat al-Isha’ is made. After the salat, the crowd breaks up.Re: Milad/Mawlid, celebrating the birth of the Prophet Muhammad (SAW)! (merged)
Mr. Salafi....please start with these books by Classical Ahl' as-Sunnah wa'l Jam'ah Scholars, and you will see their stance on Mawlid un-Nabi:
*1. Al Mouridil Raweefil Maulideena Nabawee *by Imam Mulla Ali Qari
2. At-Ta'rif bi 'l-Mawlidi 'sh-Sharif by Ibn Asir Muhammad al-Jazri (d.833 A.H
*3. Jameeul Aasaar fee Maulidin Nabeeul Muqhthar *by Imam Hafiz bin Nasirudeen Damishqi
4. Al Fazlur Raaiq fee Mauludi Khairul Khalaaik by Imam Hafiz bin Nasirudeen Damishqi
5. Maurid Al Saadi fi Maulidil Haadi by Imam Hafiz bin Nasirudeen Damishqi
6. Al Mouludil Hanni fil Mauludis Sanni by Imam Hafiz Iraqi (b.720 - d.808 A.H
An Ne'matul Kubra by Imam Ibne Hajjar
Hasanul Maqsid by Imam Hafiz Jalal ad-Din Suyuti
*Meelad-ul Mustapha *by Imam Ibne Kathir
10 Bayanu Meeladin Nabi by Imam Ibn Jawzi
Once you are done reading what these 'Ulema who were WAYY before your modern Salafi scholars and graduates of Madina (Khawarij) University, have said in regards to Mawlid un-Nabi, based on what they studied from Qur'an and Ahadith, then please, get back to me Mr. Salafi...I hope insha'Allah you will realize that they knew Qur'an and Ahadith far better than you and I will ever know....it might be intelligent to understand why these great Muhaditheen and Mufasireen never objected to or condemend Mawlid un-Nabi, EVER.
Re: Milad/Mawlid, celebrating the birth of the Prophet Muhammad (SAW)! (merged)
mughal, I am not in favour of milaad etc either, if you read my other posts. I am just saying that taraveeh is a biddah and Umar R.A also admitted it. Same as many modifications in Haramen Sharifen. For example naming doors of masjid al haram after saudis. when this never happened in salaf’s era. And there are dozens that I can tell you which they have started there. Also in sub-continent you would know the use of loud speaker became a big issue a century ago and people were calling it biddah too. Their later generations adapted the technology without any hassle though 
So, can you provide reference how taraveeh in jamaat was not a biddah at that time? Or will you agree that the biddah and word ‘kullu’ in hadith is used for all non-sharai and unislamic acts only. And ofcourse I am off topic here, milaad is not what I am talking about.
Re: Milad/Mawlid, celebrating the birth of the Prophet Muhammad (SAW)! (merged)
no bro its not a bidaah bcos the Rasool(saw) himself prayed it as it is narrated in Bukhaaree.
Bro Sultaan how are they Khawaarij sources?? explain to me what the Khawaarif are.