Re: Mighty India or Mythical India ?
Now that I have proved how factually inaccurate your statement - “not a single Indian university in the top 200” was, tum apni aukaat pe utar aaye 
Anyways, keep going…
Main is tarh ke baton per utar is liyey aaya hoon because you are always spreading hatred against my country and interfering in our internal matters. Look at all the threads that you have started. You seem to have no aim in life other than trying to say poisonous stuff against our country.
Like your other hindu brothers and your state, you seem to be a master of manipulating things to your benefit. I said:
“never SEEN them in the top 200 universities in the world in any ranking, let alone top 100”
which you manipulated to "not a single Indian university in the top 200"
typical indian mentality. Always manipulating things. OK, so I hadn’t SEEN any india uni in top 200, now I have SEEN 1-2 indian unis in the top 200. I never CLAIMED there aren’t, I just said I had not seen. Take some english lessons. And byte the way, now I KNOW that there isn’t an indian University in the top 100.
Good for you 
Keep your eyes & ears open…aur bhi bahut kuchh dikhayee aur sunayee dega 
Unforuantely theres a downside as well. Previously I thought there MAY not be an indian university in the top 100, now i KNOW for sure there isn’t.
Re: Mighty India or Mythical India ?
QS Top Universities: University rankings in Technology
36. IIT Mumbai
42. IIT Delhi
70. IIT Kanpur
74. IIT Madras (Chennai)
83. IIT Kharagpur
Didn’t I say keep your eyes & ears open ? :hehe:
Now pls dont show your embarassment by making another irrelevant post.
Everywhere u see Arleitter and Punajabee in USA misusing this forum and they are not letting any oppertunity go to attack on Pakistan. Though i did expect from Arleitter to be more intelligent then Punajabee in USA but i am very much dissapointed.
Really its such a joy to see you too writing nohting else but negative about pakistan.
Everywhere i see you two posting negative posts about Pakistan and Islam and Muslims.
Prove me wrong!!! Where there is Arleitter there is Punjabee in USA. its like a magnet wow amazing!!
What is your agenda if i may ask???
Just for fun i ask the fellow memebers of this forum to follow these loosers and see what they are posting in every group. Just look at their comments how much they ar full with hatred against Pakistan and Pakistanis and how much they glorify India.
Re: Mighty India or Mythical India ?
Arleitter you said what is pakistan waiting for why is it not attacking India?
You poor soul we do not want to attack India we don't need India.
We got what we wanted and that was PAKISTAN.
Its india that is daily crying and is still not over the loss of PAKISTAN. Daily threats come from India and they still dream about getting pakistan back.
So its India who is so called mighty millitary power who is threatening Pakistan. pakistan never did threat India. If India would have balls they would attack Pakistan.
With all your technology, with USA behind you with Israel behind you even Russia behind India its still a sissy country and cannot do anything only talk talk talk.
You are obviously biased as you are only considering rankings which put india in a nice place. The list that you quoted probably have been prepared by an indian. According to the following rankings, none of the indian universities are in the top 100.
Top 500 World Universities (1-100)
Top 100 Universities: Top Universities Best Colleges Top 100 Colleges and Universities
Top 100 Universities in the world
Indians claim to be the biggest democracy but I talked with a muslim in an IIT. He told me that muslims are aound 10-14% of the population, but are denied their entry in good universities and statistically, only about 1% of the students in IIT are muslims.
I suggest that you get over your ostrich syndrome and smell the stench of india.
You are obviously biased as you are only considering rankings which put india in a nice place. The list that you quoted probably have been prepared by an indian.
*Phir aa gaye naa apni aukaat pe...*The rankings I quoted are the same ones that you quoted - QS rankings.
Come back with a better rebuttal next time :)
Indians claim to be the biggest democracy but I talked with a muslim in an IIT. He told me that muslims are aound 10-14% of the population, but are denied their entry in good universities and statistically, only about 1% of the students in IIT are muslims.
There are many threads opened earlier dealing with Musim education standards in India. Pls look at them.
Just FYI, being born a Muslim does not entitle one to an entry in IITS or other elite institutions. People work their butts off to get in....
*Phir aa gaye naa apni aukaat pe...*The rankings I quoted are the same ones that you quoted - QS rankings.
Come back with a better rebuttal next time :)
Big deal if I mistakenly quoted a biased source. I provided you with a list of other sources to which you have no answer.
There are many threads opened earlier dealing with Musim education standards in India. Pls look at them.
Just FYI, being born a Muslim does not entitle one to an entry in IITS or other elite institutions. People work their butts off to get in....
and FYI being born a muslim does not entitle one to get burned alive either.
Plus, how convenient that ALL the muslims in india are nalaik and thats why they don't get admission in IITs.
Seriously dude, if you think you are doing a great job by trying to spread your twisted hindu agenda on this forum, I seriosuly recommend you to get a life.
Besides as the wise say, what goes around comes around.... for now you are trying to stab Pakistan in the back since we are in tough times. You DO realize that eventually things will change and just image the huge number of fault lines you have in india to exploit ...
Plus, how convenient that ALL the muslims in india are nalaik and thats why they don't get admission in IITs. .
How convenient for you to quote an unnamed friend (fiend) of yours who informed you that muslims dont get admission in IITs. There are quite a few of them. Please do some research. It would help you.
Besides as the wise say, what goes around comes around.... for now you are trying to stab Pakistan in the back since we are in tough times. You DO realize that eventually things will change and just image the huge number of fault lines you have in india to exploit ...
I totally agree with the wise saying "What goes around comes around".. Is that the reason why Pakistan is in such tough times.
Arleitter you said what is pakistan waiting for why is it not attacking India? You poor soul we do not want to attack India we don't need India. We got what we wanted and that was PAKISTAN. .
Is that why Pakistan sent its soldiers to stealthily occupy Kargil.
Re: Mighty India or Mythical India ?
@simplyme and @punjabeeinUSA
why don't you two take your makrooh, narrow-minded and posinous hindu propaganda elsewhere ? Do you really have to crap everywhere on this forum ?
By Ajai Shukla
HAL, Bangalore
Business Standard, 14th Sept 09
A jinx seems to hover above the armed forces’ urgent need for modern attack helicopters to replace the obsolescent Russian Mi-35s, which have been around for three decades. In March, the Defence Ministry had to cancel a global tender for 22 attack helicopters after international vendors signalled little interest. Meanwhile, the indigenous Light Combat Helicopter (LCH), being developed by Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL), has run into a serious weight problem.
Business Standard discovered, during a visit to Bangalore, that the LCH --- which should weight about 2.5 tonnes --- is overweight by some 580 kilograms. For operations in the plains, or in the foothills, this would not be a disaster. But at Himalayan altitudes, near the LCH’s ceiling of 6000 metres (19,685 feet), this would dramatically reduce the helicopter’s payload of rockets and missiles.
This weight problem means the LCH’s first flight will only take place at the end of this year. Despite the delay, that first Technology Demonstrator, named TD-1, will still be 400 kg heavier than planned.
The Managing Director of HAL’s brand new Helicopter Complex, Mr R Srinivasan, told Business Standard that the LCH’s weight would be progressively reduced over the first three prototypes. “We will find ways of cutting down TD-1 by 180-200 kg; TD-2, which will fly in mid-2010, will be another 100 kg lighter; and TD-3, which will be ready by end-2010, will shave off another 65-75 kg.”
That still adds up to only 375 kg, which means that the LCH could enter production 200 kg heavier than planned. HAL bosses say the IAF has accepted the extra weight.
Attack helicopters are amongst the most difficult combat platforms to successfully engineer. Even a helicopter maker like Sikorsky, which can boast of having designed the legendary Black Hawk helicopter, lost prestige and over $6.9 billion in a failed attempt to develop the Comanche attack helicopter.
But HAL remains confident it can navigate these treacherous waters. Many of the key technologies --- e.g. the Shakti engine, the rotors and the main gearbox --- that will go into the LCH are being concurrently proven in the Dhruv Advanced Light Helicopter (ALH), 159 of which are being built for the army and the air force.
Meanwhile, the weapons and sensor packages that give the LCH its fighting edge are being tested on a weaponised version of the Dhruv. HAL and the IAF have zeroed in on a Nexter 20 mm turret mounted cannon, an MBDA air-to-air missile, and an EW suite from SAAB, South Africa. India’s Defence R&D Organisation (DRDO) has begun work on a HELINA missile, which is the successful Nag missile with an extended range of 7 kilometres.
HAL’s focus on the LCH is evident. The newly created Helicopter Complex has set up a Mission and Combat Systems R&D Centre, or MCSRDC, which is focusing on developing indigenous glass cockpits for the range of helicopters that HAL intends to churn out, starting with the LCH.
[A glass cockpit refers to the tidy digital multi-function display that replaces the earlier clutter of dials and instruments that made flying so difficult.]
So far, HAL has imported the glass cockpit displays from Israel Aircraft Industries (IAI) and Sagem, of France. But with a range of helicopters in the making --- including 179 LCHs; 187 Light Utility Helicopters (LUH); and 400 or so Medium Lift Helicopters (MLH) --- there is a need, HAL believes, to develop its own glass cockpits.
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Long live DRDO, I mean DODO. Hahahahaha.
Indian army deploys prostitutes as women battalion in Occupied Kashmir
Written by Moin Ansari World Sep 11, 2009
The Indian Army is deploying around 200 prostitutes under the cover of Border Security Force’s constables in the Indian occupied Kashmir along with the Line of Control., The Daily Mail has learnt through authoritative sources.
According to the sources, the decision of recruiting prostitutes for deployment in the held valley was taken some six months back and Indian Army Chief General Kapoor finally approved it. The Daily Mail has learnt that this decision was taken as result of discussions and consultancies regarding the alarmingly increasing incidents of suicides and killing colleagues by soldiers of Indian army that are deployed in the Indian Occupied Kashmir to fight insurgency. The Daily Mail’s investigations indicate that the factor of suicides and random shoot outs on colleagues by Indian soldiers in the held valley had become a big dilemma for the Indian army top brass. When this exercise gained momentum earlier this year, the army leadership approached different consultants and analysts. The consultants and analysts reached to the conclusion that Indian soldiers, deployed in the valley were committing suicides and killing colleagues out of acute frustration and depression. Medical and psychological consultants and analysts were of the view that since majority of the soldiers, deployed in the valley were married and were away from their wives for very long time, they were gripped by sexual frustrations which ultimately transformed into mental frustration..
These consultants suggested that the soldier posted in the valley should be sent on leaves to be with their wives once a month. This came as another dilemma for the Indian Army’s top brass as it was not possible at all to send such huge number of soldiers on leaves with regular intervals. The Daily Mail’s investigations further reveal that upon this a Major General was sent to Moscow to get some solution to the problems as Russians have been having some sort of similar problems around 2 decades back. This General, identified as General Kumar, returned with a very strange solution. The Russian consultants told the Indian army that the since the soldiers in the valley were women starving, they should be provided with women to meet their genuine and natural needs.
The Daily Mail’s investigations indicate that at this stage, the Indian Army Chief constituted a committee under the command of Lt.General. Raj Kumar Karwal who currently posted as Director General of a training facility of the Indian army while Major General. Sanjeev Loomba, Brigadier. Anil Sharma, Colonel.. N K Khunduri and Colonel. Sanjay Rai were members of the committee. The committee finally came up with the solution that since it was not possible to provide street whores directly to the soldier thus professional prostitutes should be recruited with title of sex workers and than they should be given basic military training and should be posted in Kashmir sector as soldiers so that the male soldiers can establish relations with them. It was also decided that the recruitment should not be made publicly but RAW’s help should be sought as RAW was having a huge network of prostitutes in different cities of India.
The Daily Mail’s investigations reveal that RAW completed the assignment successfully and provided a batch of some 300, semi educated prostitutes to the General Raj Kumar committee after proper medical checkup of every individual. The committee then approached the Army Chief and it was decided that these new recruit should not be made part of mainstream army but should be adjusted in Border Security Force (BSF) and from there their services would be made available for Northern Command. The project was completed by the end of August when the new recruited batch of 300 completed a basic military training and Army Chief was informed that recruits were ready for deployment in the valley.
When contacted by this correspondent, Inspector General of BSF Himmat Singh confirmed that a batch of 178 female soldiers was being sent to Northern Command where they would be deployed along with Indo-Pak border to check the border violations by women, working in the field. Mr. Singh further stated that these women were not fully trained for operational military duties however in the next phase, after further training, they would be given the duties of operational Border security. Mr. Singh refused to admit that these female soldiers were actually prostitutes and were being dispatched to the valley as undercover sex workers. When contacted, Rohit Sharma, a senior defense analyst here in New Delhi, said that the move was a wonderful step by Indian army leadership as it would boost the medical and mental health of the soldiers, posted in the valley and they would come up with better results. Indian army to deploy prostitutes as women battalion in Held Kashmir?
Indian army deploys prostitutes as women battalion in Occupied Kashmir | Pakistan Daily
**Mighty India deploying prostitutes under the cover of female soldiers after **failing miserably to prove to their Pakistani counterparts as being manly.
**So they will have the prostitutes make them feel like a man. **
Hahahaha.
Some pakistanis were proved to be perverts by posting this article which is already being discussed in WA. Go and check whether you fit into that category.
'The LCA won't take off in the near future'
George Iype
The Light Combat Aircraft is perhaps the most ambitious of all DRDO projects. But 17 years and four postponements of its test flight later, the multi-role fighter meant to replace the MiG-21 is still a dream.
What has happened to the LCA, the most technologically complex challenge that DRDO had taken up? Air force officers, DRDO scientists and defence experts say it remains grounded because of "scores of technical problems."
The delay has hurt the air force badly and dented the DRDO's image. A country that has not designed a jet fighter in decades had been waiting long for one. India had designed and produced the HF-24 aircraft in the early 1960s, but its engine was British.
Such was the enthusiasm behind the LCA that in 1985 the then prime minister Rajiv Gandhi showcased it as a symbol of the new era of co-operation and friendship between India and the United States. Gandhi even overrode the claims of the French and Germans who had been collaborating with DRDO and the Bangalore-based Hindustan Aeronautical Limited for the LCA production.
The original deadline to fly the aircraft was 1993. The cost, Rs 5.6 billion. The DRDO and HAL did roll out an LCA in the presence of then prime minister P V Narasimha Rao on November 17, 1995. DRDO top brass then announced that the maiden flight would take place in early 1997. The dates were revised to June 1998 and then to February 1999.
Years passed by, but no test flight took place. Today the deadline for the LCA has become a joke in defence circles.
The most scathing criticism of the project came from the Comptroller and Auditor General of India who, in his 1999 report, said: 'Even at the end of 1998, the LCA had not crossed the development stage. Its production and induction into the air force remains only a distant possibility.'
The CAG report went on to add that the airframe for LCA developed by the DRDO's Bangalore laboratory, the Aeronautical Development Agency 'is deficient in vital parameters of aerodynamic configuration, volume and most importantly, the weight.'
The first phase of the project consumed Rs 25 billion, overshooting the estimated Rs 5.6 billion. Worse, due to the delay, the air force was compelled to upgrade its MiG Bis aircraft at a cost of Rs 21.35 billion.
Scientists at DRDO, ADA and HAL concede one thing: the LCA has run into some serious technical problems. LCA is a meticulous fly-by-wire aircraft, which is critically dependent on software to fly.
"But over the years, we have not been successful in fully testing the software. Therefore, we face difficulties in integrating the system," admits an engineer at HAL.
Since the aircraft depends on computers, no pilot wants to risk a flight test without thoroughly validating the system. Scientists say the trials intended to test the dynamic stability of the airframe and the LCA's engine-flight control system has been successful. Though the engine and the electronics are in the advanced test mode, the aircraft's ability to withstand low pressure and temperature at high altitudes is suspect.
"There is reason enough to worry that the LCA will not take off in the near future," says Bangalore-based aviation expert P N Srivastava.
"I feel the delay is primarily due to the fact that it took years for a country like India to get the advanced technology for the project," he says. "The idea for LCA was born without having any requisite technology on our side," Srivastava points out.
DRDO officials put forward one reason for the project delay -- sanctions from the United States after the Pokhran nuclear blasts. In a bid to force India to put the nuclear genie back into the bottle, the US has pulled out of the project soon after the tests.
Thus, just one week after the explosions in May 1998, many scientists working on different fields linked to the LCA at aerospace giant Lockheed Martin in Binghamton, New York, were asked to pack their bags for India by the United States. The Indian engineers were working to validate a computerised control law software for onboard computers which will ultimately fly the aircraft.
As it imposed sanctions, the US also denied key components like hydraulic actuators -- that help manoeuvre the aircraft, gain altitude and determine the trajectory -- and the ring-laser gyros to make inertial navigation systems.
"One of the main reasons for the delay is that technological sanctions from the US hit us badly. Had it not been for the nuclear blasts, our deadline to test fly the aircraft would have been successful in December 1998," says a senior DRDO official.
Lockheed Martin refused to give the DRDO the flight control computer, which was in the US for testing, when sanctions were announced, he added.
Another major hurdle for DRDO is the LCA's engine. As per its agreement with the US, India was allowed to purchase frontline 404 engines from General Electric. In fact, DRDO imported 11 such engines and fitted them on to the early versions of the aircraft, pending the development of the indigenous Kaveri engine being developed by Bangalore's Gas Turbine Research Establishment.
But after the nuclear tests, GE withdrew its technical support personnel from India and DRDO was forced to depend only on Kaveri. Sources now say it will take at least two years to determine whether Kaveri engines can withstand the low pressure and temperature at high altitudes.
No one at DRDO, ADA and HAL believes that the LCA will fly before 2005.
Experts say the delay should be examined in the context of a country that has not designed and produced a jet fighter since the 1960s. Development of every vital component of the LCA -- airframe, multimode radar, flight control system, Kaveri engine, digital electronic engine control - are said to be beset with problems.
Scientists at DRDO, for their part, hold the defence ministry partially responsible for the delay. Between 1990 and 1994, all work came to a virtual standstill as the defence ministry refused to release the much-needed foreign exchange because of economic stringency.
But the biggest worry for DRDO is not the bureaucratic delays and sanctions, but the Indian air force. Faced with diminishing number of its ageing fleet, the IAF holds DRDO responsible for promising to deliver the LCA before year 2,000, thereby considerably upsetting many of its aircraft acquisition plans.
Suspecting that DRDO will never deliver the LCA, the IAF has now embarked on an ambitious project to upgrade 100 MiG-21 aircraft.
Despite the heavy odds, DRDO still remains confident that it will roll out the country's first indigenous aircraft before 2002.
"We will induct 200 LCAs into the Indian Air Force between 2003 and 2010," Dr Abdul Kalam told a group of aeronautical scientists before he handed over DRDO's charges to Dr Vasudev K Aatre.
But there aren't many who believe that promise will be fulfilled.
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**"We will induct 200 LCAs into the Indian Air Force between 2003 and 2010," Dr Abdul Kalam told a group of aeronautical scientists before he handed over DRDO's charges to Dr Vasudev K Aatre.
We are now in 2009. One year left to produce 200 LCA's... Seems like mr Kalam and other ranting Indians should understand that fantacies and realities do not blend well.......**
Hehehe
Re: Mighty India or Mythical India ?
Frankly I think IITs, IIMs, some of the RECs (now NITs they're called I think) and many of the others such as Loyola, St.Joseph, xavier and numberous others are as good if not better than the Ivy league. But these Indian universities are only becoming well known now whereas Harvard and MIT have been known for ages and so the prestige of graduating from those is higher.
I will also tell you guys first hand - it doesn't matter whether you're Muslim or whatever - if you are good enough you'll get into IIT. But I'll tell you this as a general observation - for some reason educated Muslims seem to go more for accounting (CA), law, trade and film/entertainment industry and not towards that much science and engineering. ofcourse there are many exceptions including Dr.Kalam
It is more mythical right now, although India is indeed far more powerful than Pakistan at this moment. It will become a mighty superpower in the coming decades, though. What will be the Pakistani response to this? Will Pakistan really try to cling to dreams of taking over Kashmir when facing a superpower in that quest?
These projections are from Goldman Sachs.
The 22 largest GDP’s in 2025 (in trillions and rounded)
- USA 20
- China 19
- Japan 6
- India 4
- Germany 4
- Russia 3
- UK 3
- France 3
- Brazil 3
- Italy 2
- Mexico 2
- South Korea 2
- Pakistan 0.4
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The 22 largest GDP’s in 2050** (in trillions and rounded)
- China 70
- US 39
- India 38
- Brazil 11
- Mexico 9
- Russia 9
- Indonesia 7
- Japan 7
- UK 5
- Germany 5
- S. Korea 4
- Pakistan 2
BRIC - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
India will have an economy almost 20 times larger than Pakistan’s and be on par in economic size with the US, although it will be less advanced technologically and far less developed domestically than America (as well as China). Still, it will emerge as the third superpower in the world. How will Pakistan react to this? Pakistani leaders should be aware of these projections, which are not just made by Goldman Sachs, and should be attempting to reform Pakistan so it can at least mitigate the growth gap with India.