MIGHT HAS ALWAYS BEEN RIGHT in the ancient world and it’s true even today.
If German Nazi would have won the second world war then they would have been right and jews would have been dubbed the way Nazis are seen today. America attacked and distroyed Iraq and so America is right. Israel attacks and kills palestinians and labnese and so it is always right. Israel has the right to attack palestinians and hezbollah fighters without provocation but palestinians or hezbollah have no right to attack Israel, since Israel is always right since MIGHT IS ALWAYS RIGHT.
So if Islamic countries want to be heard on the international arena and are to be considered right (rather than terrorist) then they must develop their military power. I want to get the idea how this is possible? Is it to form NATO like alliance or by some other means?
Might off course is right due to many reasons. The first and foremost is that mighty and powerful set the standards that we all use.
Who set the standard for your electrical outlet in the home? US and EU
Who decided the frequency for your mobile phone? EU and US.
Who decided if you should drive on the right hand side of the road or left? US and EU.
Military power also comes intermixed with the power to set the standards.
How do you set the standards?
By innovating and being at the bleeding edge of technology.
Religious chuvinists of today (including Sunnis, Shias, Christians, or Hindus) do not have brain power to be on the leading edge of the technology.
So anyone talking about Muslim NATO will fall flat on his face.
Who set the standard for your electrical outlet in the home? US and EU
Who decided the frequency for your mobile phone? EU and US.
Who decided if you should drive on the right hand side of the road or left? US and EU.
Military power also comes intermixed with the power to set the standards.
How do you set the standards?
By innovating and being at the bleeding edge of technology.
Religious chuvinists of today (including Sunnis, Shias, Christians, or Hindus) do not have brain power to be on the leading edge of the technology.
So anyone talking about Muslim NATO will fall flat on his face.
There are basically two ways to set the standard. One is the way as you suggested that MIGHT sets the standard as is true by the MICROSOFT in the software world. Another way of setting standard is by consensus. This way of setting standard happens when no body is too powerful or influential in the business world. In the industrial electronic sigment no business corporation is strong enough to set the standard and so the standards are set by consensus. But in the software industry MICROSOFT is too mighty and it sets the standard. In the similar vein if other countries grow militarily powerful then consensus will play a big role in bringing world piece and institutions like U.N. will greatly strengthen. In my view, the ideal world would be when U.N. becomes the most powerful entity. And that will happen when there are multiple powerful military blocks and not just the one or two. This will bring the real piece.
I can site a pseudo peace prevailing in the Indian subcontinent between Pakistan and India. If Pakistan wouldn't have possessed nuclear weapon then there would have been another war between India and Pakistan (This was told to me by an Indian military personnel while having personal chat with him) and Pakistan would have lost Kashmir just the way it lost East Pakistan in 1971. So nuclear weapon has brought the pseudo peace in the subcontinent. So if several power blocks emerge in the future then a real peace would dawn in the world.
Oh bhai sahib, either it is choon or it is chaan. Standards are set by people with sharp and innovative brains.
Unfortunately Mullahs of any religion are the biggest hurdle against innovation.
Europe innovated only when they kicked their Mullahs out of their lives.
Muslims in Medieval ages progressed because they were lot less Mullahtic compared to their Christian counterparts. Remember how Christian Mullahs had banished so many books as "blasphemous"? Muslims got those books out of dungeons and worked years to translate them.
Now the Muslims are shackled by Mullahs and Muslim brain (within Muslim countries) is totally screwed up (with few exceptions off course).
The day we put Mullahtic genie back in the bottle, we would start progressing and off course "start setting standards".
Actually "Might is always right" is wrong, it is "Right is with might" what it means is people who say "Right" on everything "might" says are with "might" so apparently it does look as if "might is always right".
Unfortunately Mullahs of any religion are the biggest hurdle against innovation.
Europe innovated only when they kicked their Mullahs out of their lives.
Muslims in Medieval ages progressed because they were lot less Mullahtic compared to their Christian counterparts. Remember how Christian Mullahs had banished so many books as "blasphemous"? Muslims got those books out of dungeons and worked years to translate them.
Now the Muslims are shackled by Mullahs and Muslim brain (within Muslim countries) is totally screwed up (with few exceptions off course).
The day we put Mullahtic genie back in the bottle, we would start progressing and off course "start setting standards".
peace.
I agree with you that religious fanaticism degrades the scientific temper in the society and closes the mind for innovation. So one solution is that religious fanaticism in the muslim world must give way to more progressive thought which awkens scientific mind.
before reading this thread, i always felt spending money on military was such a waste specially in developing countries...since i adhore any kind of violence, i felt this money should be diverted towards education and can be used toward constructive things instead of being used for destructive purposes, but unfortunately its so true if you are not military strong the super powers can crush you to pieces in the name of defense or whatever , but personally the alternative is not any better either...this world is nothing but a big pain. Thank god we dont live forever.
I too felt like you few years back (before Iraq war) and was happy to see the demise of USSR with the false hope that US being the only super power would bring justice and peace to the world. But things happened to the contrary and now there is more chaos than what it was during cold war era. Now I realize that every country should possess nuclear weapon to have peace in the world.
Who said nuclear weapons guarantee peace. Even though India had nuclear weapons kargil took place.Are they no peace in germany, neatherlands or Japan. Is america threatening war on them or isrealies going to bomb them next.
I agree to your first point though. Might is right. But might doesnt mean having nuclear capabilities. A nation which is socialy and technologicaly advanced has the might. The average capabilities of a nations citizen also goes a long way in determining the might of that country.
The only part that is questionable here is "developing militarily" to be mighty and hense "Righty".
I want to expand on what our bro Viv said so aptly. Japan and South Korea have no armies worth a dime. Both have military bases manned by a foreign power.
Yet both Japan and South Korea are so mighty (and Righty).
Problem with "axis of evil" and their lackeys is that they drool on the looks of long shaped missiles without realizing that those missiles without technologically strong brains are just bunch of matches in the hand of monkeys.
Can you imagine Iranians or North Koreans being mighty at this stage? Heck no!
Both the countries are Gad-awful places, ruled by ninja-turtle midgets.
Both of them have extremely high unemployment,
and both are dependent on the smuggling even basic food stuff from overseas.
Iran and NK are so pathetically poor while their neighborhood is doing so well.
Iran should look across the narrow portion of gulf over to Dubai.
North Korea should look just across the border to Seol.
There is a world of difference between Tehran and Dubai.
There is a world of a difference between Kim-Kim's jannat and Seol.
Both Irani and NK midgets are hell bent on destruction just because they feel only military can make them mighty righty.
US is next door to Iran. And Israel is beating the crap out of Hizbiz the Iranian lackeys. What is Iran doing in return? Issuing bharaks like mola Jaatt.
Who says US wants to get out of Iraq?
Remember Ottomans, they were Iraq for 100s of years even when Arabs hated their rule.
US went in Japan, Korea, Germany, UK, Italy many decades ago. And US is still there. Vietnam may be among few exceptions, but read the news. Veitnamese are begging US to come back. Thanks to US "help", Vietnam is a major exporter to US.
You can hate Uncle Sam as much as you want. Many guppies actually live, breath, bread and prosper in UK / US. Still they want to hate the native countries.