Does the behavior of people changes with change in class?
I’m referring to the comment ‘yeh middle class logon ki tarah behave karna chhoR do’ uttered by upper class people.
Living in same society, how could people change their social values with the change in status and class?
Middle class people are considered to be jolly and easy to mingle and this behavior is probably disliked by upper class people who prefer privacy.
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middle class, people say it with so much hate, wonder what they really mean by middle class.
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Are you referring to people in Pakistan or outside? I have never heard this phrase been used here in the US.
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It sounds economically achhoot… probably the major reason is difference of haves and have nots, but there is something else which widen the gap too. probably superiority complex
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more relevent topic would be "naye naye raees (ameer)" mentality. they are very distinct and usually can be generalized as well.
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Are you referring to people in Pakistan or outside? I have never heard this phrase been used here in the US.
I think its more common in desi society. I don't know how people from different income group interact in non-desi society and how desis (who indulge in such things) behave in non-desi society
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I never get the idea who u guys call desi 
regarding middle class mostly in pakistan people refer to people having normal family background and near low to normal financial resources, i get this idea from pakistani dramas in which they show problematic family only able to survive on its own type thingy, but generally have heart people saying this like they use it to abuse hope you got my point
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more relevent topic would be "naye naye raees (ameer)" mentality. they are very distinct and usually can be generalized as well.
you mean people who gets all of sudden are more into such behavior than those people who are rich for generations?
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We we use Desi it means families in sub-continent (both educated and uneducated).
Media portrays things which forms part of society. There are people who disown their poor relatives just because of status issues.
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I'm referring to the comment 'yeh middle class logon ki tarah behave karna chhoR do' uttered by upper class people.
ya'nii, merii taraH tum bhii 'be_Hayaa' ban jaao! :D
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ya'nii, merii taraH tum bhii 'be_Hayaa' ban jaao! :D
explain concept of hayaa behind middle class?
This reminds me a statement given by a lady 'na to ye ghareeb lower class waliyan parda karti hain, na hi ameer upper class waliyan.. sari pabandiyan hum middle class waliyon ke liye hain' :D
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We we use Desi it means families in sub-continent (both educated and uneducated).
Media portrays things which forms part of society. There are people who disown their poor relatives just because of status issues.
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regarding people disown their poor relatives, this were the class system truly starts. If they go up from middle to high they act as if they never went low, and their height is just and they are the most deserving than anyone in this world, kind of like proudy
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I am not sure if such a difference in status issue exists where I live or have lived. Just going off a small example of my own parents, my family is very middle class (by north American standards, the 99%) and then you have my Mamus and stuff who are what you would refer to as "ameer" both in N.A and Pakiatan who move around the circles of politicians and big name people and it has never been a problem within our family nor has the difference EVER been apparent at all. I have never thought about it till now writing this. With in our Pakistani community my parents again have a whole mixed group of friends, big shots along with people who are lower income families and again it has never been apparent in my mind that their status has ever made anyone better or superior in any way.
But I think I can understand what you mean because there are some people who put a lot of emphasis on status and class, especially in Pakistan and I guess it could be because the gap between each class is so wide that there is a fundamental difference in the way people live their lifestyle. I feel like the gap between the classes in North America is not as wide but as well as people fundamentally live their lives all the same, and in terms of moving around society all the same. You'll see all class of people eating or shopping at the same malls, or restaurants for the most part. Now that is speaking generally, I think in NorMerica (getting sick of spelling it out every time lol) the emphasis and difference comes in because people are of all diverse cultures and that's where some differences play a role in the way you move with in society sometimes.
*This generalization isnt referring to people of extremely low income families, but specifically middle class.
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explain concept of hayaa behind middle class?
This reminds me a statement given by a lady 'na to ye ghareeb lower class waliyan parda karti hain, na hi ameer upper class waliyan.. sari pabandiyan hum middle class waliyon ke liye hain' :D
NOT the religious 'be_Hayaaii'...but rather 'be_Hayaaii' in getting 'ahead' in life at any cost/expense...like the 'be_Hayaaii-e-Zardarii et el"! :D
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I am not sure if such a difference in status issue exists where I live or have lived. Just going off a small example of my own parents, my family is very middle class (by north American standards, the 99%) and then you have my Mamus and stuff who are what you would refer to as "ameer" both in N.A and Pakiatan who move around the circles of politicians and big name people and it has never been a problem within our family nor has the difference EVER been apparent at all. I have never thought about it till now writing this. With in our Pakistani community my parents again have a whole mixed group of friends, big shots along with people who are lower income families and again it has never been apparent in my mind that their status has ever made anyone better or superior in any way.
But I think I can understand what you mean because there are some people who put a lot of emphasis on status and class, especially in Pakistan and I guess it could be because the gap between each class is so wide that there is a fundamental difference in the way people live their lifestyle. I feel like the gap between the classes in North America is not as wide but as well as people fundamentally live their lives all the same, and in terms of moving around society all the same. You'll see all class of people eating or shopping at the same malls, or restaurants for the most part. Now that is speaking generally, I think in NorMerica (getting sick of spelling it out every time lol) the emphasis and difference comes in because people are of all diverse cultures and that's where some differences play a role in the way you move with in society sometimes. *This generalization isnt referring to people of extremely low income families, but specifically middle class.
If we talk about Karachi, shopping at Laloo Khet and Jama cloth is considered as lower middle class, Tariq Road is upper middle class and Parke Towers is upper class. This is how people and society are mentally divided.
Eating at dhabba and at chabRi wala is considered awkward by upper class and termed as low-class places.
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Yeah I can definitely see that, I am not familiar with those places myself but in relation you are right as there are areas that are super posh over here too and mostly people who can afford to shop, live, and eat there do but at the same time it's not like you wouldn't see regular middle class people there either, I feel like people here can blend easier, it is not always so apparent as to who is rich and who is not, I think in Pakistan that is usually more obvious.
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muqa: middle class mentality is an allegation of burger/upper class people because they hate people lower than them.
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In UK, middle-class means fairly affluent and well-educated.
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In UK, middle-class means fairly affluent and well-educated.
In all civilised societies, middle class is considered cream of the society and steps are taken for survival of such class, but in societies like ours, not only middle class people face economic pressure, but their social status is also looked down upon
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It's like kawa Chala hans Ki chaal chalne apni chaal bhi bhool Gaya.