Microsoft Certifications - Which is best, if any?

If someone is absolutely new to the IT field, meaning absolutely no background whatsoever, is it a good idea to get Microsoft Certified? Can it be done? Can one get a job right away after completing certification, just based on that? Can you tell I have no idea what I am speaking about? grin

I would like to know what you think is the best route to take regarding certification or the IT field. What about these certification courses you pay for that say they guarantee placement after completion?

Also, which certification course is the best? Microsoft or not.

Thank you. smile

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Microsoft, CCNA, A+, Oracle, Sun, all of them have their certifications.

Make sure the guy/gal gets his degree first, this is more important than a certification, unless if u become a CCIE, then a degree is :p…well partially.

How old is the guy/gal…? Everything in this world can be done, mankind ventured into space, what is a certification, its all up there in ur head, only ur will power can make it happen.

I got a job after a year when I completed MCSE, and that of course after a lot of sifarish & crap. Anyway, MCSE has saturated the market a lot in the Gulf region, but what is going to stay is Cisco & the specialization in their operating systems. These guys have kept their standards by having tougher Xams.

MCSE can only give u a rough idea of how a network really operates but only theoretically. It wasnt until I started a job that I understood all the concepts I studies in theory; practically.

So in short, yes certifications do help, but acccompanied with a degree. Certification dont just stop there, u have to upgrade them. After having said this, can someone kick my lazy butt so I can upgrade mine :bummer:

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mal1k,

Let's say the person is me. I have a degree that has nothing to do with computers. I have taken one course in uni which was "Introduction to Computers", thats about it.

Please advise. Thank you.

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You will have to learn everything from start. You will have to learn everything you want to know from scratch, forget the small black text book with pictures of old mainframes.

If u opt MCSE - You are going to learn new acronyms DNS, WINS, RAS, VPN, IP, lmhosts...etc You are going to learn new terminologies like addresses, servers, nodes, topologies, network bandwidth, maintenance, installation, optimization

If u opt CCNA - You are going to learn a new dos like operating system with terms like poisoning & reverse poisoning. You will learn new about new hardware like routers, bridges, crossover cables, firewalls etc. You will be managing your companies backbone through a complex yet interesting operating system, that is nothing like windows, although if ur company can afford the GUI software, then u have no problems.

A+ - Although I havent touched it yet, but its basically hardware related.

Oracle - Everything & anything to do with Oracle products like SQL+, Discoverer, Analyzer, Applications etc.

Now if I was u, assuming ur in the 20-25 year age slot, continue your degree, take evening classes 2hours a day, take your sweet time, & you will be comfortable with MCSE in approximately 6 months, this also includes the time it takes to finish each module, prepare & complete its Xam

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Let’s say I have a degree in Business and I get my MCSE certification. Can I get a job just based on that? With no related prior work experience?

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Interesting question, I didnt have any prior Xperience in a live network, but I impressed the manager by Xpressing my confidence in managing & maintaining a million dollar network. Allah ka karam I did.

Now I have a computer background, but as far as a business background person jumping into a MCSE wagon is concerned, I guess only a real live guppy who faced a similar situation can tell us. Im afraid the only answer I can give u still is yes, u CAN get a job, provided luck is on ur side.

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Munni,

If you asked me this question about 5 years ago, I would have given you a different answer than what I am about to say.

That was the time when I might have advocated the certification route to anyone and everyone who wanted to make a career transition from “any” field into I.T.
That was also the time when I got started on my getting certified fling and got among others, flashy acronyms related to industry giants like Microsoft, IBM, Sun, Cisco and Novell (complete list here: http://www.umar.ca/consulting.htm :slight_smile: ) … but I was an undergraduate student then…and these certifications paved my way into consulting and training contracts that helped me pay my tuition and also get some experience on the resume.

Hell, I even co-managed a small institute with my dad for a couple of years… and we trained individuals ranging from zero-experience to working professionals. Needless to say, the venture didn’t last cuz the market changed considerably.

However, the way I pursued these certifications was a little different than how most people today seek the quick route to certification through say… boot camps and exam cram books available at your local bookstore.
I used to setup computer labs in my home basement… I purchased/rented equipment… installed applications… ran my own networks… practiced with the software for months before attempting the exams.
Even this didn’t guarantee that I’d succeed in my job in the real world though.

Over the past couple of years, as a technology manager, whenever I have looked to hire new people, I have regarded certifications as an add-on to something else… formal post-secondary education and/or experience.

IMHO, a paper credential without on-the-job know-how doesn’t count for much, or as some of my colleagues say… *“before you get certified, you should be trench-certified” :slight_smile: *

Where certifications do help is that they provide an industry recognized credential that the employers are familiar with and guarantees that common standards exist among the technical personnel. Also the continuing education requirement from most vendors ensures that the professionals are up-to-date in their product knowledge.

Now that I’ve given you my personal take on certifications, let me address your question about the “best possible” certification out there for a starter.

There’s no right answer though – perhaps if you can answer the following question… it may help me converge on a couple of ideas:

Q) Do you have at least an abstract idea of the type of work you’d like to do in I.T. ?
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**Base your answer on your aptitude…

  • do you like playing with devices/gadgets/electronics (may be you have a propensity towards hardware and/or networks) ?
  • do you like learning new software applications (may be you want to specialize in a specific operating system or enterprise application)?
  • do you like coming up with methodological and/or logical alternatives to solving problems? (perhaps you are suited to a programming/development oriented career path)?
  • do you like creating presentations and/or publishing? (may be a web publishing and graphic design concentration would be appropriate).

Based on your answers to the above, you can delve further into what certifications are best in that category.Microsoft itself offers several in a few categories that I have listed above… e.g. System Administrator, System Engineer/Expert, Database Administrators, Application Developers, Office Specialist.

You also need to decide if you want to indeed go for a vendor specific certification or a vendor-neutral one. Both have their pros and cons.

Perhaps, what I can help with is to offer a comparison of the certifications offered by different vendors / industry associations once you gimme more of an idea of what specific field(s) you’re interested in exploring.
Sorry about the long post, but hope this helps.

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mal1k, thank you for that input, so there is hope. smile

Umar, let's say I like to get into the design aspect of things. I dont know how to be more specific but lets say I like to look at the overall design of things and fine-tune it. What would you suggest? By the way, this isnt necessarily for me, I am just trying to find out what the best route is.

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^ you are nuts Munz
Stick to something for crying out loud..and don't even think of I.T

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hehe. grin

I didnt say its about me, though it could be.

I need to talk to you, come onlineeeeeeeeee.

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Microsoft certification? they are worth only the paper they are printed on.

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dont go into I.T! for ppl who are init..stay in it..but for ppl who are not init..stay da !@#! away from I.T and those B.S certifications! become a doctor or get into pharmacutical/health area studies!