[Merged] Jail for denying the Holocaust

And those who drew the “cartoons of the Holy Prophet(PBUH)” are protected…

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VIENNA, Austria - Right-wing British historian David Irving pleaded guilty Monday to denying the Holocaust and was sentenced to three years in prison, even after conceding he wrongly said there were no Nazi gas chambers at the Auschwitz concentration camp.Irving, handcuffed and wearing a navy blue suit, arrived in court carrying a copy of one of his most controversial books — “Hitler’s War,” which challenges the extent of the Holocaust.“I made a mistake when I said there were no gas chambers at Auschwitz,” Irving told the court before his sentencing, at which he faced up to 10 years in prison.He also expressed sorrow “for all the innocent people who died during the Second World War.”

But he insisted he never wrote a book about the Holocaust, which he called “just a fragment of my area of interest.”“In no way did I deny the killings of millions of people by the Nazis,” testified Irving, who has written nearly 30 books.Irving’s lawyer immediately announced he would appeal the sentence.“I consider the verdict a little too stringent. I would say it’s a bit of a message trial,” Elmar Kresbach said.Irving appeared shocked as the sentence was read. Moments later, an elderly man who identified himself as a family friend called out, “Stay strong, David! Stay strong!” before he was escorted from the courtroom.Irving, 67, has been in custody since his November arrest on charges stemming from two speeches he gave in Austria in 1989 in which he was accused of denying the Nazis’ extermination of 6 million Jews. He has contended that most of those who died at concentration camps such as Auschwitz succumbed to diseases such as typhus rather than execution.

The court convicted Irving after his guilty plea under the 1992 law, which applies to “whoever denies, grossly plays down, approves or tries to excuse the National Socialist genocide or other National Socialist crimes against humanity in a print publication, in broadcast or other media.”

Irving’s trial came amid new — and fierce — debate over freedom of expression in Europe, where the printing and reprinting of unflattering caricatures of the Prophet Muhammad has triggered deadly protests worldwide.Kresbach said last month the controversial Third Reich historian was getting up to 300 pieces of fan mail a week from supporters around the world and was writing his memoirs in detention under the working title "Irving’s War."Irving was arrested Nov. 11 in the southern Austrian province of Styria on a warrant issued in 1989. He was charged under a federal law that makes it a crime to publicly diminish, deny or justify the Holocaust.Irving had tried to win his provisional release on $24,000 bail, but a Vienna court refused, saying it considered him a flight risk.

Within two weeks of his arrest, he asserted through his lawyer that he had come to acknowledge the existence of Nazi-era gas chambers. Before the trial began, Irving told reporters he now acknowledges that the Nazis systematically slaughtered Jews during World War II.“History is like a constantly changing tree,” he said.In the past, however, he has claimed that Adolf Hitler knew little if anything about the Holocaust, and he has been quoted as saying there was “not one shred of evidence” the Nazis carried out their “Final Solution” to exterminate the Jewish population on such a massive scale.Vienna’s national court, where the trial is being held, ordered the balcony gallery closed to prevent projectiles from being thrown down at the bench, the newspaper Die Presse reported Sunday.

It quoted officials as saying they were bracing for Irving’s supporters to give him the Nazi salute or shout out pro-Hitler slogans during the trial.In 2000, Irving sued American Holocaust scholar Deborah Lipstadt for libel in a British court but lost. The presiding judge in that case, Charles Gray, wrote that Irving was “an active Holocaust denier … anti-Semitic and racist.” Irving has had numerous run-ins with the law over the years. In 1992, a judge in Germany fined him the equivalent of $6,000 for publicly insisting the Nazi gas chambers at Auschwitz were a hoax.

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wth, whatever happened to free press and freedom of speech that they are so in love with?

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Oh he has freedom of speech alright just no freedom thats all… he can enjoy phreedom of speech all he wants but from behind bars… May be Uunty bulbul can join him and have fun together.

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This reads like a propaganda piece more than a real news report of the sentence. Is there a reason you avoided posting a direct link?

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From the above URL..

Holocaust denier Irving is jailed

David Irving arrived at court carrying a copy of one of his books
British historian David Irving has been found guilty in Vienna of denying the Holocaust of European Jewry and sentenced to three years in prison.

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don't understand.. he seems to acknowledge the gas chambers, and the 'millions' of jews killed etc etc.. so what's left? what's the three year sentence for?

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^ he denied earlier

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That's exactly what I'm thinking. He should sue the judge for sentencing him time behind the bars. He was only excercising his freedom of speech and expression.

[Merged] Jail for denying the Holocaust

Three years jail for an opinion held 17 yrs ago. No freedom of speech campaigners around then?

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Irving jailed for denying Holocaust

Three years for British historian who described Auschwitz as a fairytale **

Ian Traynor in Vienna
Tuesday February 21, 2006
The Guardian

David Irving, the discredited historian and Nazi apologist, was last night starting a three-year prison sentence in Vienna for denying the Holocaust and the gas chambers of Auschwitz.

Irving, who appeared in court confidently yesterday morning carrying his book Hitler’s War and a PG Wodehouse paperback, immediately vowed to appeal against the sentence. “I’m very shocked,” he said as he was led from Vienna’s biggest courtroom back to the cells where he has been held for the past three months.

“Stay strong David, best of luck to you,” an English supporter shouted after the sentence was read.

Irving, 67, had started the day affecting the image of an English gent arraigned before a foreign court. “Frankly, questions about the Holocaust bore me,” he said. He clutched a copy of Hitler’s War - “my flagship, 35 years of work” - and from his blazer pocket he fetched the Wodehouse book Eggs, Beans and Crumpets. He called the trial “ridiculous” and claimed that the Austrian law under which he was being tried would be scrapped within a year.

Austria has Europe’s toughest law criminalising denial of the Holocaust. Irving went on trial for two speeches he delivered in the country almost 17 years ago. He was arrested in November last year after returning to Austria to deliver more speeches despite an arrest warrant against him and being barred from the country.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/farright/story/0,1714403,00.html

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Freedom of speech is limited when the EU decides and when it doesn't. That is what you get from the EU.

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Don’t single out EU the rule is quite universal in the western world. Phreedom of speech yeah right…

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^ it is a crime in most western countires (with exception of few south american countires).

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Holocaust denial, along with being foolish, is not illegal in the US.
Irving, and his ilk, are served much better in the open. He was totally discredited, by a law suit of his own doing. This does nothing but make him a martyr to Muslims. The funny thing about all of this is that he has a dislike for Muslims as well.

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well he broke a law.. yes.. you kids can argue all you want about the stupid law but it's a law in most European countries, so the legal system can hold and charge him..

what i'm surprised at is that now that he's revised his 'opinion' why still sentence him?

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Another white Christian put behind bars for daring to question the myths about the Holocaust. At least now white Christian Austria is debating whether to get rid of this foolish law that prohibts the freedom of speech that Europe and the Jews lecture others about. One associate professor at the University of Vienna sums it up well when he says -

*"In fact, having a law that says you mustn't question a particular historical instance, if anything, creates doubt about it, because if an argument has to be protected by the force of law, it means it's a weak argument." *

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What a biased law???Shows European media is racist towards muslims ,while is in love with jews..

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And now the prosecution want the sentence increased:

http://news.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=272532006

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Another Neo-Nazi put behind bars. I find it so amusing that Muslims find their champion in a personality like Irving.

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I find it amazing that the so called liberal champions of western democracy are not crying freedom of speech no longer i think the words hypocrites and double standards spring to mind............