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Giving gifts to each other increases love.
Giving gifts to each other increases love.
No WAY ...
what if you don't like the gift. It actually DECREASES love.
(okay okay now don't lecture me on "it's the thoughts that count") :)
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If toffa’s increase love, then they really are a no no, because thats just gay!
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So for that reason a man can't love his brother because "it's just gay"????
No WAY ...
what if you don't like the gift. It actually DECREASES love.
(okay okay now don't lecture me on "it's the thoughts that count") :)
errrmmm....i think only women do that, looking down on a gift that is.
So for that reason a man can't love his brother because "it's just gay"????
No there is already love between tlk and his friends but its gets a little gay/ creepy with toffa's :)
no men have a different way of handling it. They wait for their turn and don’t gift at all.
okay I better get outta here - I am really not contributing well) 
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Yes, NJ, neither am i:khumar:
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on secondary note, why most of the girls EXPECT to get gifts in return? Shouldn't gift be given without the expectation of gift in return? just because you love someone? or just because you care for someone?
One of my friend's wife is so hooked to "lautana" (return) of the gift. Means she give almost same value gift in return which I feel quiet odd.
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Gaia and nj
I think we are both correct, difference is that you're looking at it from a modern and western perspective when I'm not.
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PLEASE don't make him take any gifts, he will be ridiculed endlessly. I met up with my buddy after 17 years in NYC, he came from Riyaadh and I went from Rochester. Be brought gifts for Steff and Lila, nothing for me, which is EXACTLY how it should be. I took a little something for his mother because she used to tolerate me in her house all the time.
What IS acceptable is when you go out for dinner to pay for dinner. That's IT. NO SHIRTS, NO PENS, NO FLOWERS, NO TIES, NOTHING ELSE!!
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^ aahmed… 
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^Thanks Sara. The begum always tries to get me to bring flowers for our hosts when we go to someone's house AS A COUPLE. It annoys me, but she's considerate that way. The only time we DON'T take flowers is when we visit nice guppies in Seattle and forget all tameez sheepish
ammmm usually stories about encounters with chicks.
That what we really look forward to hear when visiting old friends.
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LOL all of you are so funny!
I asked TLK to start a thread for ideas but guys forget and since I’m the one who has to do all the shopping and have just 5 days left I thought I shouldn’t delay any further 
See I really like the advise of the gentlemen in the thread. First we were planning on perfumes etc … but it began to sound cheesy… 
So, how does this sound? Take a general house-type gift for the host family where he will be staying…something that the lady of the house will like and appreciate. As for the other 4 guys, I would have picked out stuff for the kids, but he’ll have to go back and get the kids ages and genders for me which will take forever! So, I dunno. At the same time, if they brought something for him, that will be embarrassing…how about TLK takes them out for one of the lunches/dinners?
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I remember when my husband gave a gift to his friend for completing his PhD and on another ocassion when a friend from Morocco brought Morcccon Jubba for him. No one was mocked at or ridiculed.
A person who makes fun of you because you brought him a gift should be kicked out of your friends' list.
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Hareem I love giving gifts. I think it’s a wonderful thing to do…I just gotta come up with something sensible since my husband is paying no attention 
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TLK pay attention!
In that situation, I will let my husband decide and specially when he’s going without the family.
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Yes but he isn’t able to decide :hinna: