Mehmood Ghaznavi

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@arleitter

First of all,I said Alexander lost dearly in India .I never mentioned abt his death.

First of All, i glad we can see the quoted text now, easy to read…

Now this brief of what actually happend

East of Porus’ kingdom, near the Ganges River (original Indian name Ganga), was the powerful Nanda Empire of Magadha and Gangaridai Empire of Bengal. Fearing the prospects of facing other powerful Indian armies and exhausted by years of campaigning, his army mutinied at the Hyphasis River (the modern Beas River) refusing to march further east. This river thus marks the easternmost extent of Alexander’s conquests:
As for the Macedonians, however, their struggle with Porus blunted their courage and stayed their further advance into India. For having had all they could do to repulse an enemy who mustered only twenty thousand infantry and two thousand horse, they violently opposed Alexander when he insisted on crossing the river Ganges also, the width of which, as they learned, was thirty-two furlongs, its depth a hundred fathoms, while its banks on the further side were covered with multitudes of men-at-arms and horsemen and elephants. For they were told that the kings of the Ganderites and Praesii were awaiting them with eighty thousand horsemen, two hundred thousand footmen, eight thousand chariots, and six thousand fighting elephants

Now, we knew agree that Alexander was one of the conqueror, and yet he didn’t dare to cross the Ganges, as Indians were there protecting their states, Now We know that Mehmood Ghaznavi did invaded the states which are now called India many times, he have crossed the all the rivers including Ganges… and you are still suggesting that he nothing but a mere daciot…
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@arleitter

Aryan invasion was a myth.I will not take that in to account.It was not an invasion but was almost a `sublimation’.

It was not my intention to discuss it either, i got what i wanted…

@arleitter

You said Abt Muslim ruling India for 1000 years.Pls understand the fact that Muslims did not rule India as a single force but there had been many Muslim rulers and kingdoms and they were fighting each other.Simeltaneously,there had been Hindu rulers aswell.If you are trying to say about Mughal dynasty,my friend it had been just a comic one after Aurangazib and the last rulers were not bigger enough to cast any kind of influence.they were repeatedly atatcked by Jhats,Marats and others.

India was never a country, it was something like central Asia, it was Brits who made it a country, india was always ruled by tribal leaders or the king of certain states, who ever gets the power attack other states and occupy it… same Ashok did and same was done by other hindu leaders…

Muslims occupied maximum part of India, they ruled in Delhi for apporx. 1000 years, their were different dynasties, they fought each other, like Ghulama was replaced by Khaljies and lastly Lodhies were defeated by Mughals… but the common thing was all of them was Muslims and they did ruled/controlled the biggest unit of India…

Now saying that few rebels disrupted this thing is not fair, rebelism is there every where, not a single kingdom existed in history which does not have rebels against it, and yes there are times when these rebels get stronger and then there are times when these rebels get wiped off…

Had Ahmed Shah Abdali Continued and occupied Delhi the hisotry of the sub-continent might have been different…

@arleitter

Now you are talking abt partition … If that’s your logic,pls see the developments after 1947.We have 1971 also and we Indians(Hindus,Muslims,Christians,Sikhs and all others) could divide Pakistan .

Yes i can see the developments, after 1947, yes there were mascares of Muslims, yes there were mascares of Sikhs, yes there is an ongoing movement against the chirstains who are forced to live in the camps as there homes and propeties have been looted/seized by hindus.. yes i know the developments. yes we got defeated in 1971, but the truth is that we learned out lessons and then in 2002, when there was biggest movement of any army against a nation ( yes I am talking about One million Indian Army marching and sitting on Pakistani border, ready to invade Pakistan, and i yes i do remember that this army sat their for almost 10 months and then walked back… yes i do know you can divide us, but i also know a mere victory of some thing like world cup can unit us… so do consider these when next time you try to divide the nation.

@arleitter

Portugese and French have caused considerable infulence on Indian Subcontinent history .They were not any of Tom and Dick class.It was portugese only who ended centuries old Arab sea trade monolpoly.They indulged in forceful conversions,displaced thousands of Goan Brahmins from their aborogin land,Caused considerable impacts on Kerala history,they had their share of trade and other diplomatic affairs with Mughals so what’s more u need to establish their impact?French had their share of impacts on India.Its evidence is Pondicherry.

Ya, what is the area, French and Portugese ruled in India? can you compare that with the sultanate of Moghals, Brits and Alexander??? i there where lots of tribes and khanate which have controlled more area and people and did have trade and other pacts with Moghals and Brits, are you going to name each and every one of them…

@arleitter

jews.well India is one of the only few places where they could live peacefully.A simple proof is that a few years ago israeli prime minister thanked people of Kerala and its rulers for safe guarding Jews and their interests.

How did jews came into the discussion are you a Jew?

@arleitter

Finally,pls understand that India is the only place, or one of the few places in the world,where all the so called `invaders’ were literally forced to become a part of the Indian mainstream.

India is the only place on planet which can be categorize as a new country, as India had never been united not atleast after Ashok, like i said, it have states with totally different mindset and cultures, and thats why they have so many movements going on… and evetually with the passage of time, one by one these states shall fall apart as they did in past…