Meet your new ‘Caliph’ Al Baghdadi

Notice everything he says about is fighting, dying, killing and conquering others & nothing about living. On the bright side, unlike Mullah Omer, at least he is not camera shy.

Islamic State leader exhorts fellow Sunnis to join him*-*Los Angeles Times

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^^^ Well, unlike One-eyed Mullah Umar, he is not One-eyed.

Anyhow, can anyone remind ISIS that when one Khalifa (Mullah Omar) is alive (though fugitive), than it becomes obligation to wage Jihad against anyone and execute him whoever declares himself Khalifa (Kharjees cannot have two Khalia at the same time … right?)

So, is it not right to start a jihad against Al-Baghdadi before thinking further?

:naraz:

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Afghanistan is an emirate and khilafat was not declared by Mulla Umer. At times some research on the topic is needed before giving your two cents :slight_smile:

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Brother, I am sorry if I am wrong, but what I remember, Mullah Umar did declared himself Khalifa. :)

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the only true khalifa is mubarak hussain obama :smokin: this guy is just some clown with makeup and fancydress costume on.

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Its fine as this is some thing new for most of the people. the fact that this "khilafat" is announced like this has made many muslims scholar by surprise,Let see what future holds. Just pray it is better for ummat and the world peace.

Mulla umer never announced khilafat, rather as i was told he declined when some people from hizb ut tehreer went to request the same.

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It will bring good for the earth? What I am listening here!

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Isn't it ironic that the verses quoted (out of context) by people trying to prove that Islam is an evil religion are the same ones quoted (out of context) by these mullahs to motivate people for jihad.

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Molvies and islam-haters are two sides of the same coin.

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I read somewhere that he got injured and fled to syria. Not sure if its true.

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With "it" u mean the ISIS?

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This is an irony, the Islam these people are portraying to the world does not have an ounce of peace in it.

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Who is paying this guy I wonder.

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^ these "mystery" terror groups hardly ever seem to harm US allied sheikdoms tht are situated right in the middle of conflict zones, nor do they worry much abt those "yahood" in Israel..... in fact Israeli medical staff treats their wounds in their facilities.......hmmm, join the dots........

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True. Otherwise how can he proclaim khilaafat by ostracizing the Shia.

Isn't that the first tactic of enemies of Islam to pit Sunnis against Shia and vice versa?

Fools.

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Sum it up really. They kill everything that moves but there is an exception in the end.

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This was the original statement

Typical of your creed to misquote. Allhuma inni saim :)

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Muslim leaders reject Baghdadi’s caliphate - Middle East - Al Jazeera English

Muslim leaders reject Baghdadi’s caliphate
Muslim scholars and movements from across the Sunni Islamic spectrum have rejected the caliphate declared by the Islamic State group, with the fighters receiving scathing criticism from both mainstream religious leaders, and those associated with their former allies, al-Qaeda.
Assem Barqawi, also known as Abu Mohamed al-Maqdesi, who was released from a Jordanian prison in June after serving a sentence for recruiting volunteers to fight in Afghanistan, called fighters loyal to the Islamic State group’s leader, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, “deviant”.
Maqdesi, a supporter of the al-Qaeda-affiliated Nusra Front, hit out at the Islamic State group for its brutal methods. “Is this caliphate a sanctuary for the vulnerable and a refuge for all Muslims, or a sword hanging over those Muslims who disagree with them,” Maqdesi said.

In rejecting the self-proclaimed caliphate, Maqdesi, a Salafi, has found himself on the same side as Sufi leaders, such as the Syrian Muhammad al-Yacoubi.
In a post on his Twitter account, the Syrian exile similarly described the followers of the group, formerly known as the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (ISIL), as “deviators”.
“[The] Khilafah state (ISIL) declared is illegitimate,” Yacoubi said. Adding that supporting it is “haram”, or forbidden.
The view was echoed by Qatar-based Egyptian religious leader, Yusuf al-Qaradawi, who said the declaration was “void” according to Islamic law.
“A group simply announcing a caliphate, is not enough to establish a caliphate,” Qaradawi said in an open letter published on the website for the International Union of Muslim Scholars, which he heads.
There was similar admonishment from the pan-Islamic political party Hizb ut-Tahrir, which believes it is a religious obligation for Muslims to work towards establishing a caliphate.

“The issue of the Khilafah is too great for its image to be distorted or for its reality to be changed merely by an announcement here or an announcement there,” the group said in a statement on its website.
Speaking during Friday prayers, Rachid Ghannouchi, the founder of the Ennahda Party, Tunisia’s main Islamist party, added to the chorus of criticism, calling the declaration of a caliphate by followers of Baghdadi a “reckless” act, which gave a “deceptive message”.
“Nations do not arise in this ridiculous way,” he told his followers.

Farid Senzai, a professor of Middle East politics at Santa Clara University, told Al Jazeera many Muslim groups felt the Islamic State group was hurting their cause.
“The Baghdadi caliphate is rejected by most mainstream Islamists because they feel it damages their cause to establish an Islamic system through peaceful means,” Senzai said.
He added the fighters were further discredited by their “harsh implementation” of Islamic law.
According to Senzai, that rejection was shared among ordinary believers.
“Many Muslims would support a caliphate as an idea but not support ISIL because of its violent methodology,” he said.
Despite its sizeable list of critics, the disapproval is unlikely to have a big effect on Baghdadi’s followers.
“They do not care about traditional and mainstream scholars, they have their own interpretation which they continue to insist gives them legitimacy,” Senzai said.

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In Pakistan Musharraf was Khalifa from 1999 to 2008, then came Zardari who was Khalifa from 2008 to 2013, and since 2013 Khalifa in Pakistan is Mamnoon Hussain, who is very weak ruling Pakistan as paid servant and agent of Thug Nawaz.

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Nicely put.

These people misquoting such verses show that unfortunately, Islamphobes are not totally wrong in spreading fear and hatred about Islam.
These people are just like khawarij of the past. So fortunately, we know that both Islamphobes and these neo kharijis, are *totally wron*g in their interpretation of these verses.