Mecca for the rich: Islam's holiest site 'turning into Vegas'

[diwana]

Re: Mecca for the rich: Islam’s holiest site ‘turning into Vegas’

@psyah

Peace diwana

I’m a reasonable man … you can be too … Please admit that for Hajj the building of the Ka’bah is not needed as part of the ritual … it is there for another important reason … tradition. It was a Sunnah to replenish the Ka’bah same goes with the Muqam-e-Ibrahim … Your use of Urdu definitions of the Hajj is not here or there.

The fact that the Saudis wash the Ka’bah and clothe it some twisted person can come along and say they are doing shirk … not so! that is not their intent … in the same way when people have landmarks of antiquity these should be kept (as much as they can in a reasonable way) - they have got a dotted line to mark the boundaries of well of ZamZam located in the mataf area, at least they can do the same with certain houses. They could have avoided building toilets in certain locations out of being sensitive for others and out of respect rather than just doing certain things without that consideration. Like someone said earlier they can put certain things in the museum. I’m actually quite sure that many of the items of antiquity such as the prayer mat of the prophet and his (SAW) stick are in close keeping of the some of the royals of Saudi. They were on display for years until the 80s I believe until the building was knocked down.

They use the excuse of shirk but in reality the reason for leveling the ground is to make way for either amenities for Hajjis which is bearable to an extent but also to make way for their plans to build real estate. It really does not have anything to do with their unhealthy fear that people are performing shirk. There are extreme examples in the Ummah where this is indeed relevant, but those people are splinter factions. For the vast majority of people who do not do shirk but still see such places as important … well decisions should be based on their mindset … not using the minority ignorant as a basis for their decisions - or so they say.

Bhai Psyah Peace:

Your points are very valid. From the perspective of someone who sees every other nation trying to preserve the natural habitat or ancient buildings, it does appear senseless to destroy some houses.

Kaaba is the center and has very different meaning as the ‘house of lord’ than any other houses on outskirt of Kaaba. Reasonable enough argument?

There is no way anyone can for sure say what the reasoning of not having those items you mentioned.

The problem is that only Pakistani/Indian muslims awam care so much as far as we know about these buildings.

No Govt. of any Muslim country talks to Saudis and discuss the importance or even if they do Saudis may not be listening to them.

The shirk issue remains valid though. There are more than few who go crazy when they come close to anything related to religious figures.

There are fake foot prints of the prophet SAW going around in families for generation and in the name of ‘Ziarat’ people focus on footprint and consider that they will go to jannat by seeing that.

@hareem01

You have copy pasted from a forum and a blog…where did they get their reference from? Even the book, what does it refer to for the proof?

I can’t imagine people “target practising” in 19th century.

Perhaps that book by Yahiya Emerick may have reference.

On internet limited search brought these few links.

The point here is that there are more than one sources which tell the same thing.