Mecca for the rich: Islam's holiest site 'turning into Vegas'

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Re: Mecca for the rich: Islam’s holiest site ‘turning into Vegas’

@diwana

The Farz is Hajj e Baitullah not Hajj e ‘Dotted line’ though.

Regarding washing or clothing of it..maybe it is to protect and clean the ‘itar’ and sweat of hands which touch it on daily basis.

Don’t know when this ritual was started. Need to check.

There is not always a logic to what Saudis do, but we do know in the name of respect people go crazy. As it is people act silly when they get close to Kaaba or Masjid e Nabvi/or the final place of rest of the prophet/sahaba.

There is a lot to do in order to preserve these other buildings and really, this is not 7th century where few people go and perform Hajj.

It is OK to accept the modern construction too.

Regarding the kuffar owning the chain stores/hotels, that is another topic.

Peace diwana

I’m a reasonable man … you can be too … Please admit that for Hajj the building of the Ka’bah is not needed as part of the ritual … it is there for another important reason … tradition. It was a Sunnah to replenish the Ka’bah same goes with the Muqam-e-Ibrahim … Your use of Urdu definitions of the Hajj is not here or there.

The fact that the Saudis wash the Ka’bah and clothe it some twisted person can come along and say they are doing shirk … not so! that is not their intent … in the same way when people have landmarks of antiquity these should be kept (as much as they can in a reasonable way) - they have got a dotted line to mark the boundaries of well of ZamZam located in the mataf area, at least they can do the same with certain houses. They could have avoided building toilets in certain locations out of being sensitive for others and out of respect rather than just doing certain things without that consideration. Like someone said earlier they can put certain things in the museum. I’m actually quite sure that many of the items of antiquity such as the prayer mat of the prophet and his (SAW) stick are in close keeping of the some of the royals of Saudi. They were on display for years until the 80s I believe until the building was knocked down.

They use the excuse of shirk but in reality the reason for leveling the ground is to make way for either amenities for Hajjis which is bearable to an extent but also to make way for their plans to build real estate. It really does not have anything to do with their unhealthy fear that people are performing shirk. There are extreme examples in the Ummah where this is indeed relevant, but those people are splinter factions. For the vast majority of people who do not do shirk but still see such places as important … well decisions should be based on their mindset … not using the minority ignorant as a basis for their decisions - or so they say.