Master Tara Singh and Division of Punjab

[the_kaur]

Re: Master Tara Singh and Division of Punjab

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@babloos

^^
interesting on sikh converts

my new punjabi jatt friends are saying for them no defference between hinduism/sikhism
they visit both temple/gurudawara,one guy went on to say sikhism is a sub group of hinduism (this guy is a jatt sikh)

It is amazing that a jatt said so, jatts are most orthodox type of sikhs who were alaways against such thoughts:)

@muqawwee123

I think that this belongs to Punda intelligence who know how to assimilate other faiths into their own

Intelligence is something that this race always had, I think knowledge and smartness are in there genes, they compete hard ang gain excellence in their field with great perserverence, something that other indians should learn from the caste they hate the most and still can’t beat them:D

@muqawwee123

Interesting. What was the impact of Khalistan on the demand of separate Punjab Sooba?

Punjabi Sooba wasn’t demand of Khalistan, Anandpur Sahib resolution that sikhs had passed has tried to contain central governement role to foreign affairs, finance, defense etc, never before Jarnail Singh Bhidranwale the demand of Khalistan became real, Akalis stated explicitly that Anandpur Sahib resolution is not for sepration from India.

@muqawwee123

So the Indian Punjab was divided based on the religion too and the Waris Shah’s Punjab was divided into four parts One with Pakistan and three parts with India.

It was good decision, why have such a big state which can’t be managed properly and speak multiple language. Azadpur, Jahangirpuri went with delhi, rest with harayana and Himachal, Patiala is southern most district of punjab. Only problem partition always brings is partition of resources and especially water:)

@babloos

^^

from my knowledge people of haryana and himachal don’t speak punjabi
haryanvi and hindi is respectively spoken in those states nothing to do with religion, atleast from all the punjabis i met (both hindus and sikhs) they kind of pratice both religion
may be iam wrong kaur can explain

The duality is result of Pundas, Pahari Dogra Rajput wanted to fix pundas who were annoyed by increasing popularity of Gurus in Himachal done by Pundas, they sided with Wazir khan to fix them, Kashmiri Pundas went to guru Tegh Bahdur for help who intern appealed to Hazrat Auragzeb, who had developed a method of killing by asking people either to convert or get killed, Guru Tegh Bahadur was martyred by Zinda peer, and guru gobind singh formed Khalsa which eventually ruled punjab, but credit of destroying Mughals goes to another set of pundas of maharashtra called Peshwas:k:

@babloos

same thing down in south madras presidency
my people had to fast onto death so that nehru gave seperate state for telugus from madras presidency ,later when other half got freed from razakars of nizam both parts were combined to form new state for telugu speaking people

Nizam part of Bidar, Gulbarga, Raichur and Bijapur are part of Karnataka, these are called Hyederabad karnataka and their independence day is 17th september, the end of operation polo.

@Ali_Syed

According to uncle wikipedia, the main languages spoken in Himachal are Hindi, Dogri and Pahari. ‘Pahari/Hindko’ is the language spoken in Azad Kashmir, Northern Punjab, Hazara District of KP.

haryanvi seems to be a mix of Urdu and Punjabi, I guess the ranghaRs speak that language (in Pakistani Punjab) and people make fun of them.

Yes Rangharaas are from haryana who moved to pakistan in 1947.

@muqawwee123

Any idea, how and when these areas (Haryana and Himachal) became part of Punjab? Is it the same story as annexation of Sindh with Mumbai?

All were part of british dominion and are populated by same set of ethnic people, yadavs, jats, Gujjar,rajputs, baniyas and Pundas:)