by Dr Zakir Nayak
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He is not a scholar and fiqh is not his field.Also Zakir Naik is a Salafi. This was misleading article. There is Ijma to follow one of the 4 school of thought.
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So do u think tht Only Mullahs hve the right to learn and understand islam.Nobody beside them cant learn and Understand Islam?oo Man open ur eyes see wht they r doing.They r not justice to their religion.They split it to smalls sectors wht should we listen them because they only belive they r the true follower islam?Bhai janaan Mazhabhi Paishwayaat ka zamana khataam hoo raha hai.and people want to understand islam themselves thts why u seeing Most of the engineer Drs r understanding Islam more than so called Mullahs Yea Muslim hoonay ke Joozayaat aur Function bhi nahi bata saktay.Islam se in ka door ka bhi wasta nahi hoota sirf Apnay sector ko hi promote karty hai.
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Its the sign of Qiyamat, Prophet s.a.w said people will leave the expert in Islam and start following so called scholars who wont be experts. This is exactly what is happening today. If these so called doctors want to learn, they should go to Islamic schools and learn. You dont become a scholar reading few books at home. When you want to become a doctor, you go to medical school, not an engineering school. Islam is not a game that anyone can start giving fatwas etc. So you are ttying to say before no one understoond Islam correctly and now these so called halgbaked doctor have understood Islam, this thinking is the cause of most fitnas in present age. You are just brain washed my friend.
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what did he say wrong????
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*** Holy Qur'an is my name.***
I am a book in elegant prints,
to know my name, here are some hints.
Rich in cover and nicely bound,
In hearts of Muslims I am rarely found.
High on a shelf, I am kept,
Forgotten there, I am left.
With respect I do get lots of kiss,
My main point is what they always miss.
In a melodious voice they recite me,
Neglecting the message inside me.
At times I am used for phony swear,
My true use is very very rare.
A miracle I am that can change the world,
All one has to do is understand my word.
I have wisdom I have treasure,
So much so there is no measure.
I'm your savior, I'm your guide,
But who's there to follow the bide.
Right from wrong is my fame,
Holy Qur'an is my name.
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plz give us the reference where this Ijma takes place and how ?
you are without any reference
second Zakir Naik is not salafi
he is muslim only , no fiqah
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isn't this irrelevent
read the above address of him and tell does he says any thing wrong
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Sorry, this is not going to work. Poor arguments. Imran did not said anything wrong. One is not required to go to Islamic schools to learn Islam. Infact I say one should avoid that. Because, they do not teach you anything else like, "Mantiq (logic)", Science, Philosophy, etc. These are the tools that together with Tafseer and Hadith help you better understand and appreciate what is being narrated in our Quran.
There output is mostly narrow-minded, short sighted, wisdom-less junk stuff. Who declares everything haram that is not in-line with their own interpretation. Alas.
Besides, there is another thing called "Taufeeq" by Allah. If one is that lucky then every "Rimoz" gets opened for him. MashaAllah. Create a burning desire and ask Allah for assistance.
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Some time though you do not know medicine but you can guess out that this doctor is not giving you a right treatment due to his vested interests. so you change doctor and go to the one you trust. same is the case of scholars
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i think Dr Nayak is talking very sensibly. I am a sunni and i used to consider that sunnis are moderate and ahl-e-hadith and shias are on the two extremes, now as i have started studying and discussing i have realized that sunnies have no dearth of extremists and our ulemas are more extremist than Shia ulemas in general matters (not pertaining to sahabas issue)
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There is a big difference between understanding Islam and misleading people with the wrong teachings of Islam (ie: rejecting hadith.)
Khanbaba is right when he says if you want to learn Islam go to the teachers, scholars, alims..etc
Imran, like you say "mazhabhi paishwayaat ka zamana khataam hoo raha hai" this is the whole point, like Khanbaba says, people will start putting a distance between themselves and the scholars. SubhanAllah.
People judge the Ulemas of this world just by generalizing the Pak-Indo scholars. Me, living in the west, I appreciate the sacrifices the scholars make to bring Islam to us. I watch QTV, Mufti Akmal, alaways he has beautiful words to share, mashAllah, there should be more scholars like him in Pakistan who should stand up and put the record straight.
Dr. Zakir Naik, is a wahabi/salafi, that is why he has support from Saudi Arabia where the government is wahabi. He is an excellent scholar when we talk about comparative religion but he's no scholar when it comes to Fiqh issues because he does not follow an Imam. But, if you listen to his talks he has made it clear, he has nothing against people who follow Imams. (i don't read urdu, so i didn't read what u posted) MashAllah his dawah work is amazing.
There is nothing wrong in learning Islam on your own but the books you read to understand Islam is not just the Quran, you need books written by the Ulema.
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There is a big difference between understanding Islam and misleading people with the wrong teachings of Islam (ie: rejecting hadith.)
Khanbaba is right when he says if you want to learn Islam go to the teachers, scholars, alims..etc
Imran, like you say "mazhabhi paishwayaat ka zamana khataam hoo raha hai" this is the whole point, like Khanbaba says, people will start putting a distance between themselves and the scholars. SubhanAllah.
People judge the Ulemas of this world just by generalizing the Pak-Indo scholars. Me, living in the west, I appreciate the sacrifices the scholars make to bring Islam to us. I watch QTV, Mufti Akmal, alaways he has beautiful words to share, mashAllah, there should be more scholars like him in Pakistan who should stand up and put the record straight.
Dr. Zakir Naik, is a wahabi/salafi, that is why he has support from Saudi Arabia where the government is wahabi. He is an excellent scholar when we talk about comparative religion but he's no scholar when it comes to Fiqh issues because he does not follow an Imam. But, if you listen to his talks he has made it clear, he has nothing against people who follow Imams. (i don't read urdu, so i didn't read what u posted) MashAllah his dawah work is amazing.
There is nothing wrong in learning Islam on your own but the books you read to understand Islam is not just the Quran, you need books written by the Ulema./quote]
Books written by Ulemas but which confer to Quran and the Ahadith, not any tom, dick and harry jiska ata pata kuch na ho. Well please stop calling out names as Wahabi's or Salafi's he seems more like a Muslim to me.
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Books written by Ulemas but which confer to Quran and the Ahadith, not any tom, dick and harry jiska ata pata kuch na ho. Well please stop calling out names as Wahabi's or Salafi's he seems more like a Muslim to me.
You are right, books that agree with the Quran and Sunnah are the only books that are acceptable.
I am not saying he's not Muslim.
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why the whole world is in wahabi phobia ?????
if a man who truly follows a quran and ahadees we call him a wahabi. I am my self a sunni from hanafi school of thought but i think personally , wahabi are more islamic than any other sect because they strictly follow quran and ahadees.But they follow mostly Bukhari and Muslim shareef , a 100% true texts of hadees and all other also consider ahadees which are not 100% shaheeh say 70 or 80% saheeh .In examinations you even pass of 33% or 40% so this is the only difference but "yaar log to rai ka pahar bana daitay hain".so plz. go on these minor issuses of " rafa yadain" and " ameen bilghar" , there are ahadees in their favour and not in their favour.But the degree of shaheeh is dfferent.So in my opinion , all are correct , as your intention is , to follow the sunnah of prophet(peace be upon him).
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as far as Dr. Zakir Naik is concern....
personally i think , out a 6.2 billion of all of us living on the face of earth,there is not even a single man like him , in a field of comparitive religion, believe it or not . We muslims should proud of him that this matchless man in this world belongs to muslims .And plz. dont call anyone salafi, wahabi, brelvi and deobandi......... My ears aches of all these stupidities.For 1400 years , we paid a heavy price and still we are paying it ................
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unfortunately our wahabi/salafi bhai of pakistyan are more extremist than then the original salafis(saudi arabia). if you check the world greatest islamic QA site
(islam-qa) from saudi ulema, you will consider them quite moderate. For example just search out the "abdul qadir jilani" and see their respect from saudi ulema but in pakistan some ridiculed them while others make help from them , both extermists. Also search out "different schools of thoughts" and imam abu hanifa. and there is written clearly that if someone has a little knowledge he can follow a man who has knowledge and consider any scolar more knowledgeable than other as it is the verse of quran.But unfortunately misconceptions about anything makes the picture dark.......
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i am not a scholar not an aalim....
But i must say that according to hadees out of 73 sects 72 will go to hell and 1 will go to jannah and this will be the one who follow the prophet((peace be upon him) and his sahaba.So we all sould try as much as possible to follow the prophet (peace be upon him) and sahaba and if their is conflict in sahaba follow anyone will inshallah will be correct as in hadees " my sahabas are like stars in the sky , follow anyone will give you the true path"
And most importantly is , if their is conflict in hadees some say it is "zaeef" and some say it is "shaeeh" then if your intention is to follow sunnah then inshallah Allah will definitely reward you if you act upon anyone , for( inna mal aamalo binniyat ) that is" ammakl ka daromaar niyatton par hai."
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just try it out........
(islam-qa ) on this site , on search option write" imam abu haneefah " andread it . for convenience of readers i give it down.
Question:
We hope that you could give us a brief overview of Imam Abu Haneefah and his madhhab, because I hear some people criticizing this madhhab because he relies too much on qiyaas (analogy) and ra’y (opinion).
Answer:
Praise be to Allaah.
Imam Abu Haneefah is the great faqeeh and scholar of Iraq, Abu Haneefah al-Nu’maan ibn Thaabit al-Taymi al-Kufi. He was born in the year 80 AH, during the lifetime of some of the younger Sahaabah and saw Anas ibn Maalik when he came to them in Kufa. He narrated from ‘Ata’ ibn Abi Rabaah, who was his greatest Shaykh, and from al-Shu’bi and many others.
He was concerned with seeking reports and he traveled for that purpose. With regard to fiqh and examining and analyzing reports, he was the ultimate and people depended on him in that, as Imam al-Dhahabi said: “It would take two volumes to tell the story of his life, may Allaah be pleased with him and have mercy on him.”
He was an imam who was eloquent and well spoken. His student Abu Yoosuf described him as follows: “He was the most well-spoken of the people and the most clear in expressing himself. He was pious and very protective with regard to transgression of the sacred limits of Allaah. He was offered worldly gains and a great deal of wealth, but he turned his back on it. He was whipped to force him to accept the position of judge or controller of the bayt al-maal (treasury of the Islamic state) but he refused.
Many people narrated reports from him, and he died as a martyr of dropsy in 150 AH at the age of seventy. (Siyar A’laam al-Nubala’, 6/390-403; Usool al-Deen ‘inda al-Imam Abu Haneefah, p. 63).
The Hanafi madhhab is one of the four well-known madhhabs, and it was the first of the fiqhi madhhabs. It was said that “The people are dependent on Abu Haneefah with regard to fiqh.” The origin of the Hanafi madhhab and all the other madhhabs is that these four imams – I mean Abu Haneefah, Maalik, al-Shaafa’i and Ahmad – made the effort to understand the evidence of the Qur’aan and Sunnah, and they issued fatwas to people based on the evidence that had reached them. Then the followers of these imams took their fatwas and conveyed them and issued other fatwas based on them, and derived principles from them, and they set out guidelines for understanding the texts and reaching conclusions. Thus the fiqhi madhhab was formed, and the Hanafi, Shaafa’i, Maaliki and Hanbali madhhabs, and other madhhabs such as those of al-Awzaa’i and Sufyaan, but these latter madhhabs were not destined to continue.
As you can see, what these schools of fiqh are based on is following the Qur’aan and Sunnah.
With regard to the ra’y and qiyaas adopted by Imam Abu Haneefah, what this means is not opinion based on whims and desires, rather it is an opinion based on the evidence, or analogies, or following the general principles of sharee’ah. The salaf used to describe ijtihaad in difficult issues as ra’y (lit. opinion). Many of them used to say when commenting on a verse of the Book of Allaah, “This is my opinion (my ijtihaad) concerning it,” but that does not refer to opinion based on whims and desires, as stated above.
Imam Abu Haneefah followed ra’y and qiyaas a great deal in matters other than hudood punishments, expiations and other shar’i issues, and the reason for that is that he had fewer ahaadeeth at his disposal than other imams, because he came before the other imams and was very strict about accepting ahaadeeth, as false reports were so widespread in Iraq at that time and there was a great deal of tribulation.
It should be noted that not all the opinions and views of the Hanafi madhhab that is named after Imam Abu Haneefah are the words of Abu Haneefah himself, or can be correctly attributed to him. Many of those views go against what Imam Abu Haneefah himself said, but they were regarded as part of his madhhab because they were worked out according to the guidelines of the madhhab which is derived from the other texts of the imam. Similarly the Hanafi madhhab may adopt the view of a student of the imam such as Abu Yoosuf and Muhammad, and it also includes the ijtihaad of students of the imam, which subsequently became part of the madhhab. This does not apply only to the madhhab of Abu Haneefah, rather the same may be said of all the well-known madhhabs.
If it is said: If the four madhhabs are based on the Qur’aan and Sunnah, why do we find differences of opinion between them on matters of fiqh?
The answer is: Each imam issued fatwas on the basis of the evidence that reached him. A hadeeth may have reached Imam Maalik on the basis of which he issued fatwas, that did not reach Abu Haneefah, so he issued fatwas stating something different, and vice versa. Similarly a hadeeth may have reached Abu Haneefah with a saheeh isnaad so he issued fatwas on that basis, and the same hadeeth may have reached Imam al-Shaafa’i with a different isnaad that was da’eef (weak), so he did not issue fatwas based on it, or he may have issued a fatwa saying something that went against the hadeeth based on the conclusion he reached. This is why differences arose among the scholars, but ultimately the point of reference is the Qur’aan and Sunnah.
In fact, Imam Abu Haneefah and other imams followed the texts of the Qur’aan and Sunnah, even if some of their fatwas were not based on that, the reason being that all four imams stated that if a hadeeth was saheeh, then that was their madhhab, that is what they followed, on what they based their fatwas and from what they derived their evidence.
Imam Abu Haneefah said: “If the hadeeth is saheeh then that is my madhhab.” And he said: “It is not permissible for anyone to follow what we say if they do not know where we got it from.” According to another report he said: “It is haraam for the one who does not know my evidence to issue a fatwa based on my words.” And according to another report he added: “We are human, we may say something today and retract it tomorrow.” And he said: “If I say something that goes against the Book of Allaah or the report of the Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), then ignore what I say.”
Imam Maalik (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: “I am only human, sometimes I make mistakes and sometimes I get things right. Look at my opinion and whatever is in accordance with the Qur’aan and Sunnah, take it, and whatever is not in accordance with the Qur’aan and Sunnah, ignore it.” And he said: “There is no one after the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) whose words cannot be taken or left, apart from the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).”
Imam al-Shaafa’i (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: “There is no one who will not be unaware of some of the Sunnah of the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). Whatever I say or whatever guidelines I establish, if there is a report from the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) which is different to what I said, then what matters is what the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said, and that is my opinion.”
Imam Ahmad said: “Do not follow me blindly and do not follow Maalik or al-Shaafa’i or al-Awzaa’i or al-Thawri blindly. Learn from where they learned.” And he said: “The opinion of al-Awzaa’i and the opinion of Maalik and the opinion of Abu Haneefah are all mere conjecture and it is all the same to me. Rather evidence is to be found in the reports – i.e., in the shar’i evidence.”
This is a brief look at Imam Abu Haneefah (may Allaah have mercy on him) and his madhhab. In conclusion, the Muslim cannot but acknowledge the status and position of these imams, but that should not lead us to give precedence to their views over the Book of Allaah and the saheeh reports from the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), because in principle we should follow the Qur’aan and Sunnah and not the opinions of men; any man’s opinion may be taken or left, except the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him),as Imam Maalik (may Allaah have mercy on him) said.
For more information please see questions no. 5523, 13189, 23280, 21420.
See also al-Madkhal ila Diraasat al-madaaris wa’l-Madhaahib al-Fiqhiyyah by ‘Umar al-Ashqar.
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