Masjids that preach terrorism

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One of the greatest lies!

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No Mosque teach Terrorism, what was lal-mosque was doing? with 12 AK_47 and resisting against one of the best army in the world!!! they were able to kill the commmander of the troops and killed many others and wounded hundreds, how they managed to do all that!!!

Now these street mullah have annouced jihad ( i still doubt who is funding them) don't they know that, what is the punishment of going rebel against the state?

In 90s they were killing each other ( sunni vs shia) and now they killing others as well... all is starting from the mosque and ending in the mosque and some suggests that there is no violence thought in Mosques.. funny isn't it?

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No Mosque teach Terrorism, what was lal-mosque was doing? with 12 AK_47 and resisting against one of the best army in the world!!!
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Hmm having 12 aks for your protection is not preachging terrorism. Terrorism is when you run over a Masjid with tanks and 100s of soldiers and kill 1000+ innocent lives.

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they were able to kill the commmander of the troops and killed many others and wounded hundreds, how they managed to do all that!!!
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When you are attacked, you wont just sit there. No one told the commander to attack a Masjid.

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Now these street mullah have annouced jihad ( i still doubt who is funding them) don't they know that, what is the punishment of going rebel against the state?

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Blala balalla Jihad jihad...

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funny isn't it
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I cant stop laughing.

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^ Can someone if possible provide a jist of wat was there in the article of JANG.

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i have personally never been to any such masjid but if there is a character preaching anything against islam in any masjid, i agree he should be reported. atleast this way there would be a decent turn out in masjid.

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I have been in Karachi. In one of them they a some deputy leader of a jihadist group talking about how Muslims were brutally killed by serbians and raped. This is of course true.

What he said afterwards is not true. He said muslim women were forced to have sex with dogs and they ended up being pregnant with half dog-half human babys. While I don't doubt the sickness of serbs, it is not scientifically possible for dogs and humans to procreate. He probably read this in Nawai-Waqt.

Then he went on to talk about how killing kaffirs is so awesome.

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I dont know if u ignorant by nature or u dont know the impact of AK-47... have u ever seen this gun, have u ever engaged in a cross fire where both or either party have this gun!!! are u aware the Mujahideen in Kashmir were using this very gun agains 0.8 million indian troops? are u u aware the total number of Mujahideen was aroung 70,000

are u aware this gun was important element in Afghan Jihad!!!

Are u aware of the fact that Ghazi himself spoke of TV that we dont have automatice weapons... now if either he as a liar or he have no idea about these which means he had no control over the mosque

I dont think so, what i think u r trying to do. mixing ur hatedness of mush with Pakistan.

u cannot even come up with a single statement saying or denying that what i said was wrong so i guess i can draw the conclusion that mosques are teaching violance ( no idea where they are getting funds from) which is way out of the role of moqsue

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have u ever seen this gun, have u ever engaged in a cross fire where both or either party have this gun!!! are u aware the Mujahideen in Kashmir were using this very gun agains 0.8 million indian troops? are u u aware the total number of Mujahideen was aroung 70,000

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Many time.
I dont want to repeat. Ak 47 is very common gun in Pakistan. I know many people who have it for their protection.
Infact most schoalrs do.
Most politicians do.
So what if they have 13 aks for their protection?
Its not illegal in Pakistan.
Does that mean you run a Masjid with tanks

Sigh
Anwyzz
sonay jara hoon

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Salam

A TV report played a clip in which baqiyat-e-Lal Masjid’ were displayed. There was a pile of video CD’s on top of which was one titled ‘shaheed Azam Tariq’. This guy Azam Tariq was great great follower of Haq Nawaz Jhangwi. And Jhangwi was the man whose recorded speeches are available in which he repeatedly said that ‘if I were at the occasion of Karbala, I would be the first to blow the arrow on Hussain’. The only mission of these jehadies is to crash the followers of Ahl-Al-Bait Alehimus salam. Basically these are the continuation of ‘Shajra-e-maloona fil Quraan’ and nothing else See http://www.paklinks.com/gs/showthread.php?t=247831. And all these masajid can simply be termed as per Quraan as “masjid-e-zarar”.

Iltemase Dua

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Scholars carrying guns ? shant they using pen and their knowledge as weapon ? and it is indeed illegal in Pakistan to carry weapons without an issued license , it doesn’t matter if politician are into a scum , scholars should not follow them right after, two wrongs never make a right !

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thats what u and me believe.. but not every one

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Well it is from both sides , I have been to Shia majalis where zakirs do openly tabraah on Hazrat umar and other ashaab , while on other hand , you will find many speeches on internet in which that shipha.shaba group openly disgrace the concept of immaa.maat and 12th imman of Ahlay Tasha.ee group . And if you search you may also find clips on you tube in which Salafi Mulveiz charging against tableeghi group and mulana Asharf tanhavi ‘s publications.

The beauty is that every one thinks his firqa or sect is the right one or firqa naajia and other are infidels. For me , fighting over history events and rituals is same as the fight between two blind men on size and shape of an elephant . you just seem to believe what u have been taught and seen .

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Even billions wrong cannot make one right. So is the Ijmaa, If whole the humanity may have consensus on one wrong thing, it cannot be accepted as right.

HARAMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
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perhaps the gun culture of Pakistan is main problem. Everybody possesses them for the sake of protection except bicharay hawaldar who are left with danday. (i will again start off in the direction of corrupt govt)
shia sunni and other sects have always existed, lakin tehzeeb thi purany zamanay main. now its become very volatile and people have forgotten to tolerate each other in a non violent manner.

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Nahi....Vedic-intellect ko sara kuch muaf hai.

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At our local Mosque they always condemn terrorism and tell us killing innocent civillians (including non-Muslims) during war-Jihad is forbidden and un-Islamic and so is killing oneself (suicide bombing).

They condemn what the Non-Muslim goverments/armies are doing to Muslims in Islamic Lands as well as what misguided terrorists (who call themselves Muslim) are doing to innocent non-combatant Non-Muslim civillians.

They do however tell us not to adopt the ways of the Kuffaar (Non-believers) such as drinking alcohol, pre-martial sex, eating haraam food etc. and to stay well clear of people who do those things. Now some extremist-moderates will take that as hate preach and inhibiting integration but I think that's bollocks, they never stopped us from playing a game of football with Non-Muslims, they've got the right to preach against actions they disagree with just as Jews and Christians preach the same things about the ways of the Goyim and Heathens.

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My husabnd goes to Jumaah prayers at a local mosque in Falls Church (Northern VA). A few weeks ago, the topic or rather the conclusion of one of the Khutba was "DON'T condemn suicide bombers".
I was more upset with my husband's lack of repsonse then at the Khateeb's views. I told my husband:You were offended and all you did about it was to come home and share your resentmnet with your wife; You hould have spoken up right after the Khateb ended his sermon; If you were relunctant to raise your vioice in front of the other Namazzes, the least you could have done was to approach the Khateeb privately and share your concern about his preaching.

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^
He wants reporting.

I know the authorities are also just another Zaalim (opressor) but we have to do our duty for our own sake and our community's sake.

Unless your husband didn't get the full context, maybe the Chaplain said don't condemn suicide bombers if you're not willing to condemn their root cause (USA's actions/policies against Islamic lands) i.e. don't be two-faced hypocrites.. Also some scholars allow kamikaze style attacks on agressing-combatant armies (not civillians), I can't agree with it purely because I disagree with suicide but it's not terrorism the way targetting civllians is.

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I agree with Khanbabax on that. There is a guard standing outside Macdonalds in Karachi with Ak47 in his hands. Is Macdonalds preaching terrorism. I like the term coined by someone on a recent Capital Talk. They talked about liberal exterimist. I noticed that most of the people in this forum fall under that cateogary. Without ever entering any mosque, they made up their mind that all mosques in Pakistan are "terrorism kay adday"

A good reason, never to eneter a mosque. right muslim brothers?

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^ guards in mcdonalds work for security firms, not mcdonalds directly, and security firms are issued strictly licensed weapons issued to security companies. both the gun and the person holding it are traceable to their baap dada, I know this from talking to a security guard outside Mcdonalds in Clifton, Karachi.

but leaveing that aside, do guards in mcdonalds go around kidnapping people, burning down ministries or breaking legitimate shops? and thats after you assume that they actually had merely 13 ak47s in which case youre extremely naive. Nobody seriously believes they were anything but armed to the teeth.