When somebody a non-Muslim marries a Muslim person and decides to accept Islam, isnt he/she doing it for the person rather than for the actual reasons?
I mean Im sure this is not the case, but some people convert for the marriage. Does that still mean they are complete Muslims in the actual sense?
I mean shouldnt they want to convert, for the faith rather than their future hubby/wife?
Not true mama did it becasue of the tranquility and peacefulness of the religion. Then she joined GS and now she is messed up.
Then again you know I am a non practicing non-muslim of Qadiyani descent.
How is this any different than the person who is Muslim only because they were born and raised in a Muslim family/society and following the basic tenants because they are expected to and not for "for the actual reasons"?
It’s different because the person was born a Muslim.
In this case this person is not born a Muslim. And should accept the faith for God, not for the significant other.
You raise a good point though. I believe we should - even when we are born Muslim - find out as much as possible and believe it because we “want” to. Doing something because we’re expected to - is not how it should be.
Maniac-- you’re right. But wouldnt it make mroe sense if the people converted after they felt the faith was right…and not just for the marriage. Because I always feel they are doing it for the significant other…not Allah.
Faisal— If you convert because you want to marry somenody , in my case that doesnt make you a proper/complete Muslim. You’re doing it for the wrong reasons.
But AS love is crazy you do things very differently. Thats just another way of looking at it. I know a Regular Christian Hispanic who converted to the Church of Latter Day Saints (Mormons) because he fell in love and the Girl was under some order or something.
Unfortunately, I have never heard before the term “complete muslim” in relation to reverts to our deen, so I am struggling to understand how is it defined, and more importantly, how is it measured. And if there is actually a way to measure if someone is a “complete” muslim or “half-way complete” muslim or “incomplete” muslim, who determines it, and how do the “born muslims” stack up in comparison.
Does it really matter at the end? I mean if you are going to put your heart and soul into something doesn't that count? At the end of the day they are Muslim, they pray, they fast, they are Muslim.
That’s exactly M Q’s point. The first and foremost intention that a convert must learn is “Innamal A’amolo bin Niyyah” i.e. Every action of yours is judged by the intention made for it. But if your intention to convert is for love not faith then does it really count?
Who are we to doubt the sincerity of someone who converts? I won't deny that I have doubts about whether they are converting because they genuinely believe in Islam or merely to be acceptable to the Muslim's family.
However, I push those to the back of mine mind because I don't believe in questioning a Muslim's sincerity.