how would you know someone was ONLY interested in you for the visa? how do you pick up on these things? people who have married from Pakistan, how did you know the people were genuinely interested in you and it was not just the visa?
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how would you know someone was ONLY interested in you for the visa? how do you pick up on these things? people who have married from Pakistan, how did you know the people were genuinely interested in you and it was not just the visa?
Similar questions have been asked before on this forum.
Marriage is a reason itself, if somebody whos got other reasons, that will not work.
So how do we know about the ingenuity? This usually comes very easy through deductive psychology, however only scenario where it will not work is when guy/girl is fairly different from their family and were genuinely interested while family gave away wrong signals, or vice versa (family were genuinely interested, while gave the right signals unintentionally masked the wrong signals of potential partner)
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People from pak, specially boys almost always marry for visa, with the girls from west. Should not be surprised.
Only thing is if he is the kind who is going to leave after, or the one who make life with you.
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Only thing is if he is the kind who is going to leave after, or the one who make life with you.
how would you know he would make a life with you? overall personality ?
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how would you know he would make a life with you? overall personality ?
his family.
Are they reasonable. Previous baho damads and nephews nieces... etc....
Take all that into account.
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^ reasonable in what sense? their demands? expectations from son ?
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^Its hard to know even from the family. Among the old friends and colleagues I met this time during vacation, 2 acknowledged to me that they are only waiting for the stipulated time to take citizenship and then are going to seek divorce. A third one is seeking divorce now. When I asked why did you marry them in first place and why spend 7-10 years of their good age with someone only to divorce. All claimed that they intended to be happily married but they are not respected by their wives. Now I don't know how much of it is true.
On the other hand, one married a girl from states, who forced him to go with him to states and get immigration, he stayed for 2 years doing odd jobs, then told her he wont stay and wants to get on with his career in Pakistan. She refused to come back. He came back and now married to another.
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If you are going to marry someone you don't know well, I recommend hiring an investigator as part of the due diligence. Unfortunately, like every thing else in life, you can never be 100% certain.
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I find this practice quite disgusting to be honest. If there is no loyalty, these people are basically beh sharem lok.
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If he is financially stable, well educated, has a god job, then he is probably not marrying you for the green card.
If he is barely getting by in Pakistan, and his future seems bleak, then yes you are his golden goose.
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^Its hard to know even from the family. Among the old friends and colleagues I met this time during vacation, 2 acknowledged to me that they are only waiting for the stipulated time to take citizenship and then are going to seek divorce. A third one is seeking divorce now. When I asked why did you marry them in first place and why spend 7-10 years of their good age with someone only to divorce. All claimed that they intended to be happily married but they are not respected by their wives. Now I don't know how much of it is true.
On the other hand, one married a girl from states, who forced him to go with him to states and get immigration, he stayed for 2 years doing odd jobs, then told her he wont stay and wants to get on with his career in Pakistan. She refused to come back. He came back and now married to another.
were the guys families aware of this too? did they do a big wedding function? or did they try to do a very simple wedding?
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I would say do Istahra prayer. also like 90% of these marriages suffer hardship. If u have these feelings don't ignore them, better to lower ur sandards and get someone who doesn't need a visa, then to go back and get a highly educated guy/girl. even if it does work, your going to have a couple of years of hardship because of cultural differences.
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also if you catch the guy after nikkah acting rude, or saying something, don't think it will get better, ending it right then. don't bring him to uk/us/ca it will be more difficult to deal with.
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how would you know someone was ONLY interested in you for the visa? how do you pick up on these things? people who have married from Pakistan, how did you know the people were genuinely interested in you and it was not just the visa?
How do you suppose to know.Most of these marriages are arranged by parents and elders.If your a boy whose living in mirpur or some other backward place in pakistan you would love to marry a girl from england and get away from there.Thats why the immigration system in britain is becoming strict because some people use marriage as a tool to facilitate someones elses immigration.
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Not really sure what to make of this.
We have family friends where almost every female in the family is married to a guy from Pakistani, specifically a Dr. The DRrs. have all taken their USMLE's and are in residency in various states.
Have a friend whose only daughter married the relative (in Pakistan) of a well established family in the States. They were old friends with the US family, after immense istikara and such, the marriage took place. as soon as the guy got his papers, he left the girl. He is somewhere in the States, the friendship between the two families has ended.
Also a Pakistani relative of mine, married an extremely gullible, overweight , low self esteem US woman. He got his papers, and left her high and dry.
These are all the negative cases, the ones that make you wonder ..at the same time, there are so many marriages (he from Pak, she from US) which are successful.
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I dont get it though.So once they get there papers where do they run of too? like is not it their life as well? whose going to want to marry someone who fooled someone else? and how can you live with someone for so many years and have no respect for them. like would not a bond develop overtime? its pretty sad.
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I dont get it though.So once they get there papers where do they run of too? like is not it their life as well? whose going to want to marry someone who fooled someone else? and how can you live with someone for so many years and have no respect for them. like would not a bond develop overtime? its pretty sad.
these guys arnt normal, they are psycopaths. they and their families knowly marry a girl, with intentions to leave. they don't care, about all the expenses, drama ,basically destroying awhole families life.
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I dont get it though.So once they get there papers where do they run of too? like is not it their life as well? whose going to want to marry someone who fooled someone else? and how can you live with someone for so many years and have no respect for them. like would not a bond develop overtime? its pretty sad.
This is not complicated.
1) When men and women leave their spouse after getting green card, they simply move on with their lives. They get a job, move into a separate place (often a separate city or state) and continue living their life.
2) What makes you think their 2nd spouse knows that they "fooled" their 1st spouse? You should know by now that often desis tend to hide or twist things during a marriage.
3) You make it sound like these marriage last 10 or 15 years lol. Most of the time, the nikah lasts for 5-6 years max. And majority of that time, the husband and wife did NOT live together b/c of visa issues or b/c ruksati wasn't done (even though nikah was done). So you have all these couples that get married, but continue to live in separate homes/countries for months/years....their daily life really doesn't change from that time they were single. So no, for men and women who go into marriages like this just for the green card, it's not that difficult to not get emotionally attached.