All praise is due to Allah (swt)
Asalamulaikum,
I wanted to start this thread because nowadays many people think about the question, what should come first marriage or studies? Often the answer is studies because the parents want their daughter to finish a specific amount of studying. So i wanted to know what are people´s opinion about this topic from a islamic point of view?
Re: Marriage or studies?
"Ilam hasil karna har musalman mard or aurat (2no) pr farz hay".
So a muslim can continue studies even he/she got married.
"Ilam hasil karna har musalman mard or aurat (2no) pr farz hay".
So a muslim can continue studies even he/she got married.
ilam cannot be confined to formal education.it includes learning craft or skill.best ilam for women can be to learn to look after the house kids and cooking.Doing bachelors and master would be a waste
Re: Marriage or studies?
I agree nasirahmed :k: but let me tell u something skills and knowledge r 2 different things. Skills increase by practice/working hard and knowledge only increase by learning/reading more and more. In my view best Ilam is Islam which is the no doubt key of sucesses in this world and in Akharat.
Re: Marriage or studies?
Its upto the parents, they make the best decisions.
Re: Marriage or studies?
Any knowledge which is benificial to a person and it does not contradict the teachings of islam / shariah .. that is knowledge.. and knowledge of any benifit is a lost peal of a believer/muslim he/she should obtain it at all cost/means. << time limit is not an issue.
So seeking knowedge can continue after marraige also .. however, from parents experience ..as some one just said parents make the best decision for you .. is that once married .. seeking knowledge becomes difficult ..cos OTHER responsibilities arrise ..so its preferred that you obtain as much as possible ..but it DOES not mean that you stop there ..its a hadith of the Prophet SAW that seek knowledge from the cradle to the grave..
Any knowledge which is benificial to a person and it does not contradict the teachings of islam / shariah .. that is knowledge.. and knowledge of any benifit is a lost peal of a believer/muslim he/she should obtain it at all cost/means. << time limit is not an issue.
So seeking knowedge can continue after marraige also .. however, from parents experience ..as some one just said parents make the best decision for you .. is that once married .. seeking knowledge becomes difficult ..cos OTHER responsibilities arrise ..so its preferred that you obtain as much as possible ..but it DOES not mean that you stop there ..its a hadith of the Prophet SAW that seek knowledge from the cradle to the grave..
agreed.
also we can't forget that the Prophet (pbuh) said to the youth to marry as soon as you can to save yourself from shaytan's evil. so marry and live a simple humble life and keep on seeking knowledge, insh'Allah you will face NO PROBLEMS. Allah provides, you just have to keep on goin! =)
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Bhai, In Mohammad pbuh's time, life was different and his directions and advice was based on his time. Back then, there was no MIT aka Makkah Institute of Tech, or Madina school of economics, or Jiddah center of Medical research.
Let alone Girls, even most of the boys didn't have much to do beyond goat hurding, or doing a bit of dukan dari.
Thus 1400 years ago, it was logical and sane decision to merry off girls and boys as early as possible.
Unfortunately (or fortunately) the times have changed.
And thus more opportunities have opened up for women that they can potentially decide about delaying their wedding plans and continue on with the studies.
It is a hard decision, but one could decide based on age of woman in question.
If she is 18, then she has good 7 to 8 years for studies.
However if arki is asking this question about a girl who is 28, then the answer is that she should get married.
Islamic point of view aka view of Mullahs in this case should be ignored. They don't know much about today's life.
Re: Marriage or studies?
I know exactly what you are talking about!
I think its unfair that some parents expect their children to complete their formal education and secure a good job before contemplating marriage. For the more religiously practising folks it means no dating, friendship etc. until at least after the age of 25.
Islam encourages people to marry young. This does not mean that one cannot continue seeking and learning whether its in the form of formal education or not. It's good to see more married couples in universities and learning institutes at least they are opting for the halaal way.
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^^ i beg to differ .with burqqaaa. so ur saying the Prophet SAWs vision was ONLY as far as His era ..I dunt think so .. When the Prophet SAW said something it ALWAYS had wisdom for ALL eternal eras ..
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Bhai, In Mohammad pbuh's time, life was different and his directions and advice was based on his time. Back then, there was no MIT aka Makkah Institute of Tech, or Madina school of economics, or Jiddah center of Medical research.
Let alone Girls, even most of the boys didn't have much to do beyond goat hurding, or doing a bit of dukan dari.
Thus 1400 years ago, it was logical and sane decision to merry off girls and boys as early as possible.
Unfortunately (or fortunately) the times have changed.
And thus more opportunities have opened up for women that they can potentially decide about delaying their wedding plans and continue on with the studies.
It is a hard decision, but one could decide based on age of woman in question.
If she is 18, then she has good 7 to 8 years for studies.
However if arki is asking this question about a girl who is 28, then the answer is that she should get married.
Islamic point of view aka view of Mullahs in this case should be ignored. They don't know much about today's life.
Life was different? Was his advice just for that time and that TIME only? If you say YES to that question, there is no further discussion since you have your mind set on it.
But on the other hand if you believe that Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)'s message was for ALL generations until the day of judgment, then the marriage advice STILL STANDS, even more so in this day and age.
Let's not even get into the details of gender issues and what each gender has to face individually.. That's a whole another discussion.
One thing, many women will agree, that as a woman gets older, it's harder for her to have children or even raise them. Life1 is a good example, where you see cases of single women in their late 30s even 40s not married. I don't want to generalize here but I find some cases are due to the pursuit of higher education / jobs and ignoring/putting marriage off for the "future".
just my twocents.
^^ i beg to differ .with burqqaaa. so ur saying the Prophet SAWs vision was ONLY as far as His era ..I dunt think so .. When the Prophet SAW said something it ALWAYS had wisdom for ALL eternal eras ..
Good nick! FBI and 786. Like Bismillah Federal Bureau.
OK Back to the topic.
Mohammad pbuh had two parts in his life like every other Messenger of Allah. One part is eternal aka speaking truth, believe in Allah swt, being honest, and being tolerant.
The other part was time specific like what to eat, what to wear, how to travel, the type of medical treatment, the things to buy and the things to sell, etc.
the followers of earlier Messengers made a mistake and mixed the two parts and made their messengers as mini-gods (Nauz Billah), and thus started shirk. Muslims are strictly forbidden to turn our Messenger to anything more than a human being who was blessed by Allah to bring forth Allah's message.
Thus we should not mix the two unique facets of His pbuh life. The eternal part lives on. We should believe in Allah swt, be honest and truthful.
But we can't travel on camels and donkeys anymore. Thus the time specific part is now history. We should cherish it, look at it nicely but we cannot copy it.
Because if we mix the two distinct parts of Mohammad pbuh's life, we'd be committing the same mistake as the one committed by the followers of previous religions.
That's all.
Re: Marriage or studies?
Burqaposhx! could u please tell me where is written 786 means or like Bismillah ?
back to the topic.
If we recite Qur'an with meaning and understanding what Qur'an say then we'll gonna aware that the Qur'an speaked about Astronomy, Physics, Georgraphy, Geology, Oceanology, Biology, Botany, Zoology, Medicine, Physiology, Embroyology etc. But the Muslim Ummah never take opportunity. The others, taken advantages and now they r leading this world i.e. some muslim writers books are being used them.
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If we recite Qur'an with meaning and understanding ...
You must be joking!
There are 1000's (if not 100,000's) of Quranic scholars around and none of them uses Quran as the source of their research papers in astronomy, zoology, biology and other gies.
Either all those scholars or idiots or you are trying to smoke something really deep.
This is the the type of false pride and idiocy that has destroyed the fertile minds of Muslim youth today.
They hear these Ali Baba 40 thieves stories and suddenly find a religious text (however important it is for all of us muslims) to be in the realm of science.
Now don't go off and start quoting Islam online for the fantastic theories.
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Just show us that you can read Quran and from there find the latest fluid dynamics theory.
Or
heck any theory that has NOT been published in a scientific journal already.
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OK!
It is pathetic that many Mullahs and Mullah wanna-bees today steal scientific theories from respected journals and say, look it is in Quran.
Well if it was in Quran, why the heck you didn't write a paper BEFORE the discovery was published in a scientific journal?
This is not science, it is like a Mullahs making a mockery of scientific discovery. And you my friend are part of that mocking process.
Making mockery of Quran, and in the same instance making mockery of Scientific discoveries.
Pathetic!
This is what Christian Mullahs used to do. These Mullahs said everything is in Injeel, and thus anyone who discovers something new must be punished.
and thus
Europe was in dark ages as long as they let their Mullahs drove the so called "scientific thoughts".
And Pakistan now a days is in scientifically and intellectually dark age, because many of us believe just like Christians that a Holy books is ALL that you need, and it contains ALL the knowledge of science and arts.
Islam came to stop this nonsense that treated Injeel and Torah and Zaboor to be THE source of science.
And guess what?
Just like Christian Mullahs, we have Muslim Mullahs who use the same language about Quran too. And thus we have turned Islam into the practices that were common in Medieval christians. And no wonder, our thoughts and our intellect is pretty much stuck in the medieval ages.
How sad!
Buqaposhx! Plz! ignore my poor english. may be i couldn't explain what i meant. Let me try in another way to explain.
In Qur'an 41:11] "Moroever, He Comprehended In His design the sky, And it had been (as) smoke: He said to it And to the earth: 'Come ye together, Willingly or unwillingly.' They said: 'We do come (Together), in willing obedience.
"Do not the unbelievers see That the heaven and the earth were joined together (as one Unit of Creation), before we clove them asunder?" **21:30**]
"Seest thou not that Allah merges Night into Day and He merges Day into Night?" 31:29]
"He created the hevens And the earth in true ([roportions): He makes the Night Overlap the Day, and the Day overlap the Night. **[39:51**]
"And the earth, morever, Hath He made egg shaped." **79:30**]
Thus, to attribute the presence of scientific facts in the Qur'an to coincidence would be again common sense and a true scientific approach. The Quran invites all humans to reflect on the Creation of this universe in the verse:
"Behold! in the creation of the heavens and the earth, and the alternation of night and day - there are indeed signs for men of understanding." **3:190**]
The scientific evidences of the Qur'an clearly prove its Divine Origin. No human could have produced a book, fourteen hundred years ago, that would contain profound scientific facts, to be discovered by humankind centuries later.
These signs invite us to realize the purpose of his existene on earth, and to live harmony with nature. The Qur'an contains a complete code of life for the individual and society. Alhamdulillah, the Quranice way of life is far superior to the 'isms' that modern man has invented out of sheer ignorance. Who can give better guidance than the Creator Himself?
there are more Qura'ani ayats which reveals about creation of the universe as well in zoology, biology etc etc. My Point was if we muslim recite Quran with understanding its meaning will lead us to invent what the others non-muslims invented and reveals to this book Qur'an that this was mentioned in this 1400 years ago. As u said There are 1000's (if not 100,000's) of Quranic scholars around and none of them uses Quran as the source of their research papers in astronomy, zoology, biology and other gies. This how we muslims are far far behind.
Your English is just fine. There is no problem there. Let me say this again,
My response was to remove the misunderstanding that Muslims tend to carry about the mixing Quran and Science.
...... The scientific evidences of the Qur'an clearly prove its Divine Origin. .
But as Muslims, we believe Quran is of divine origin, REGARDLESS of scientific evidence.
Much of the scientific information of today was non-existent during early period of Islam.
Still Muslims believed in the BOOK.
Same is true today.
We would have believed in Quran and we don't need science to prove Quran's divinity.
In fact the more we bring science to PROVE that Quran has divine origin, the more we mess up.
...... ........ As u said There are 1000's (if not 100,000's) of Quranic scholars around and none of them uses Quran as the source of their research papers in astronomy, zoology, biology and other gies. This how we muslims are far far behind.
I tend to disagree.
Quran cannot be the source of science. It is a religious book.
The day we take the religiosity out of science, and follow what other great scientists are doing REGARDLESS of their religion,
We'll excel in science.
So please do not try to add Mullah in the technology. It won't work.
Thank you.
Re: Marriage or studies?
oky i agree with u :k:
May Allah SWT hum sb ko sahi rah pr chalnay ke tofeeq ata farmay Ameen 
Re: Marriage or studies?
Marriage and education are both important. depend upon situation.
Marriage and education are both important. depend upon situation.
True. And it especially depends on the age of the bride-to-be. 29 years should be the maximum limit. And then wedding. This is based on biology and not any religious or cultural edict.