WHY THEY TOOK SO LONG TO MAKE YOU LIFE1 MOD???
well from what i've seen in my community, the girls who have good reputations, good education, a nice background can easily find rishtas already in america who don't need a green card. the girls who normally agree to marry a dude from pak usually are the ones who couldn't find a rishta here due to their reputations for having boyfriends, drinking, partying, or something else. soooo essentially the green card hubbys do get what they deserve by marrying the most unwanted girls in the community. essentially its a win-win situation because guy gets greencard girl gets a hubby. both are difficult objects to obtain these days :)
Totally opposite from my community. It's the good girls with the clean reputations who married guys from back home because there are limited guys here or they are in relationships- marrying girls of their own choice. Some of these girls were getting older and not getting good rishtas, but had good reputations. It's not quite a win-win situation for them if the hubby says "talaq" 3x after getting his green card.
Totally opposite from my community. It's the good girls with the clean reputations who married guys from back home because there are limited guys here or they are in relationships- marrying girls of their own choice. Some of these girls were getting older and not getting good rishtas, but had good reputations. It's not quite a win-win situation for them if the hubby says "talaq" 3x after getting his green card.
I know a girl who went through that crap. Then married another guy - American convert - who beat her. Lovely luck. She's a nice girl too.
well from what i've seen in my community, the girls who have good reputations, good education, a nice background can easily find rishtas already in america who don't need a green card. the girls who normally agree to marry a dude from pak usually are the ones who couldn't find a rishta here due to their reputations for having boyfriends, drinking, partying, or something else. soooo essentially the green card hubbys do get what they deserve by marrying the most unwanted girls in the community. essentially its a win-win situation because guy gets greencard girl gets a hubby. both are difficult objects to obtain these days :)
Ecuse me, i didnt smoke, drink, party, etc i married a paki from back home.
and?
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ALOT OF PEOPLE i know married desis from back home and are SHOCK HORROR HAPPY....
AND SECONDLY
most of the western born brats like us, its the MEN here who marry bichari virginal desis in pakistan, ..wonder why..
You CAN be happy marrying a guy from back home and sponsoring him but like it or not, the guy has married you for your passport. Whether you both admit the truth or shove it under the carpet is your call.
You CAN be happy marrying a guy from back home and sponsoring him but like it or not, the guy has married you for your passport. Whether you both admit the truth or shove it under the carpet is your call.
NO. Because my own husband has No INTEREST in my passport...because
a- he can legally without marriage get a passport ANYWAY only thing is itl take him maybe an extra year....hes been here a while anyway, and considering the fact that he intends to stay, waiting another year wouldnt have harmed him, he wouldve done it that way....
b- he has loved me for a long time,theres other girls here in the family he couldve easily married, i made him wait a year..because i didnt like him at all..however i got to know him and thought hes actually quite nice, better than the pig headed attitude and backwards mentality coming from the brit-born-brats here.
a- he can legally without marriage get a passport ANYWAY only thing is itl take him maybe an extra year....hes been here a while anyway, and considering the fact that he intends to stay, waiting another year wouldnt have harmed him, he wouldve done it that way....
b- he has loved me for a long time,theres other girls here in the family he couldve easily married, i made him wait a year..because i didnt like him at all..however i got to know him and thought hes actually quite nice, better than the pig headed attitude and backwards mentality coming from the brit-born-brats here.
a- So did he get a passport by applying on his own or did you sponsor him? If you had to sponsor him, why didn't he just wait a year and get the passport on his own?
b- Did the other girls in the family have a British/American/Canadian passport?
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jeez.
a- no i didnt sponsor him, he was here anyway on his own accord and status, he has masters degree from kings university....!
B- YES the other girls are all british born like me. and are waiting for rishtey like him ( i know because their mothers were waiting) he only had eyes for me;] bless.
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Yeah I am not saying you paid for his visa or his airline ticket. Getting a masters degree from 'Kings University' does not mean you get priority for British citizenship.
So did you help him get British citizenship and a red passport??? You don't sponsor someone on a visa, you sponsor them for immigration so they can become a citizen of that country. Citizenship by marriage is often abused drastically. There are countless stories of men and women (but mostly men) who marry the girl, get their citizenship and dump her.
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No i did not sponsor him in anyway, and if we decide to live here than regardless of anything, he will need settlement here anyway. whether he wants it or not. same if i married an american...i need to obtain it as the law requires, doesnt matter if we want to or not.
and yes there are countless number of times it happens. but i know him very well. it took me 4 years to know well, and he couldve married anyone else in that time and already had his citizenship.
i made a point on his education, because alot of people come here from poor backgrounds and die for passports as they think that money grows on trees. he comes from a wealthy background, and if he can afford almost 20k on education here, whats a passport to him?
i dnt understand why people think a greencard/passport is the quivalent of a place in jannat. alot of people in my family are very well off in pak and when they come here openly say they dont see the fuss, because life for a wealthy pak is diff to someone on the breadline.
and lastly the reason we are still in the uk, because i refuse to move back. he however wants to. and u would know if yoyve ever read my posts where im abit peed off that he wants to go back and i dnt....etc etc
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I would like to point out its quite patronising of us to assume everyone wants a visa. its funny yes, and at times true, however not all pakis wants passports just like not all muslims are terrorists...see my example. we get peed off when non-muslims paint us with one brush..my husband gets doubly peed when our own bandey paint him with the same brush of oh passport laina hoga...the people who are lucky enough to have passports are living on benefits, or in a 3bed mortgaged house, with 5 kids,rise in taxes, and so on....im sure my husband is missing out on all these privileges by living in a mansion in pakistan with 8 servants and no mortgage.......
I would like to point out its quite patronising of us to assume everyone wants a visa. its funny yes, and at times true, however not all pakis wants passports just like not all muslims are terrorists...see my example. we get peed off when non-muslims paint us with one brush..my husband gets doubly peed when our own bandey paint him with the same brush of oh passport laina hoga...the people who are lucky enough to have passports are living on benefits, or in a 3bed mortgaged house, with 5 kids,rise in taxes, and so on....im sure my husband is missing out on all these privileges by living in a mansion in pakistan with 8 servants and no mortgage.......
I think the only person who sounds patronising here is you.
Yeah, my parents took out a "mortgage", oh the evil "mortgage" and ok, fine we had two kids in the house, not 5, but yes we paid our taxes like honest people, and we paid for our homes with our hard-earned money.
As oppose to passed down inheritences and living off human labor like frikkin spoilt kings exploiting poor people the way you do.
Yep, so if one of your poor servants wants to go after that passport and come to America so they can be treated with some frikkin dignity and they find a girl who is willing to help them, I don't blame them at all.
It's the guys who ONLY marry for the visa and leave their wives, sometimes even after she gets pregnant - that's pretty sick. But those are from the same zaat who sit on their high thrones earning money in corrupt ways and enjoying their 8 servants in Pakistan. So go figure.
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guys who marry only for green card or visa and then end up leaving their wives once they have their status in the said country...even after the wife has had his child...this happens more of than not nadz
and to those who think its only the girls with the bad reps who go for guys back home...you're making a gross generalization just like saying 100% of guys from back home who marry girls from outside are only doing it to get their hands on a green card is also a gross generalization
however like i said...it happens more often than not... i have stats from immigration 95% of the marriages where the guy is from an underdeveloped country like pakistan and nigeria and the girl is from the USA these marriages end up being frauds... go figure huh maybe it doesnt happen in the UK as much as it happens in the USA...but here it occurs a lot...and its not fun when ur on the receiving end of it
these poor servants are not poor because of my husband.lol. most of pak is poor, and thats a fact of life there and if they are emplyed, then thats a good thing right. and secondly i dnt know about other wealthy fams, however i do know that my husbands family certaintly dont treat their servants like slaves. in fact they have utter respect for them. i remember when i was there and the girl burnt my salwar accidentally of course, however i wanted to get madd and thump her because it was my favt suit, and ive never burnt it how did she manage it, so before i could get peed off at her, my MIL told me not to say anything because she was sharminda and scared of me lol and was upset etc etc..anyway so i let it go...bascially my point is my in laws dont treat them like second class humans....as u r assuming.
and it is patronising that we think all these people wants visas. my husbands cant wait to go back, its me thats making him stay, now if i make him stay, for whatever reasons, he will need to obide law and get a passport....
and we seem to pride ourselves on being western born, do we feel as special if we get attacked on the basis of our relgion or colour. i know alot of americans who are pak/muslim and its so hard for them to get jobs and are mistreated after 9/11, and suffer abuse, my own cousin who lives there had his shop burnt down, because of it. is he lucky to be born american. ?
a visa doesnt make anyone rich..so imagine my husband married me only for a visa....hmmm what would happen..-the day his passport is dished out, the queen would personally welcome him and let him stay at her palace and offer him a 100,000k a yr job???
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IF MY HUSBAND manages against the odds, turns out to leave me after said status. he wont get it alive.:]
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No i did not sponsor him in anyway, and if we decide to live here than regardless of anything, he will need settlement here anyway. whether he wants it or not. same if i married an american...i need to obtain it as the law requires, doesnt matter if we want to or not.
i made a point on his education, because alot of people come here from poor backgrounds and die for passports as they think that money grows on trees. he comes from a wealthy background, and if he can afford almost 20k on education here, whats a passport to him?
i dnt understand why people think a greencard/passport is the quivalent of a place in jannat. alot of people in my family are very well off in pak and when they come here openly say they dont see the fuss, because life for a wealthy pak is diff to someone on the breadline.
and lastly the reason we are still in the uk, because i refuse to move back. he however wants to. and u would know if yoyve ever read my posts where im abit peed off that he wants to go back and i dnt....etc etc
If you decide to live here why do you need to sponsor him? If he is so educated and 'rich' he can surely afford a great lawyer and get himself citizenship. Getting a green card is definitely not equivalent to a place in jannah...I wish the people from back home who marry girls with a blue/red passport would realize that. :)
I am sorry I haven't read your posts. But....
I would like to point out its quite patronising of us to assume everyone wants a visa. its funny yes, and at times true, however not all pakis wants passports just like not all muslims are terrorists...see my example. we get peed off when non-muslims paint us with one brush..my husband gets doubly peed when our own bandey paint him with the same brush of oh passport laina hoga...the people who are lucky enough to have passports are living on benefits, or in a 3bed mortgaged house, with 5 kids,rise in taxes, and so on....im sure my husband is missing out on all these privileges by living in a mansion in pakistan with 8 servants and no mortgage.......
.....if people living abroad are living on benefits, have a 'mortgage' and 5 kids why are you not interested in moving back to your husband's mansion in Pakistan with EIGHT servants? Do you like the benefits provided by the UK government? :)
and it is patronising that we think all these people wants visas. my husbands cant wait to go back, its me thats making him stay, now if i make him stay, for whatever reasons, he will need to obide law and get a passport....
and we seem to pride ourselves on being western born, do we feel as special if we get attacked on the basis of our relgion or colour. i know alot of americans who are pak/muslim and its so hard for them to get jobs and are mistreated after 9/11, and suffer abuse, my own cousin who lives there had his shop burnt down, because of it. is he lucky to be born american. ?
a visa doesnt make anyone rich..so imagine my husband married me only for a visa....hmmm what would happen..-the day his passport is dished out, the queen would personally welcome him and let him stay at her palace and offer him a 100,000k a yr job???
Again it's not a visa, it's sponsorship for permanent residence. Of course it doesn't make you rich but it sure helps you get a lot of government benefits that you will not enjoy with a Pakistani passport. So no it's not about getting rich. It's about having more opportunities and being eligible for more government benefits ;) It's also to do with not needing a visa to visit Europe or North America. With a Pakistani passport you need a visa to get into every country in the world.
If you are SURE your husband didn't marry you for your passport, then make sure you never sponsor him or help him with his citizenship.
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When I was studying one of my class mate told me a story of a woman who was her sister's friend who was living in USA . She got married to someone from Pakistan. Sponsored him , got him job , his family came to US. She got them settled too. She literally did everything for the guy and his family. When he got the citizenship he divorced her and married again to some very young girl.
On the other hand I knew very few cases where families have got their daughters married to a guy settled abroad so that the girl can later sponsor her brothers and get them settled. They got their daughter's married just because the guy was settled abroad. I had a couple of class mates who would just never say Yes to a rishta from Pakistan , they wanted to settle abroad and the easy way was to get married to a guy settled abroad.
nothing wrong with it. I have every intention of using my citizenship to get someone way out of my league. Inshallah.
it's called supply and demand.
I'm sure you will find someone who is very much in your league...
If you decide to live here why do you need to sponsor him? If he is so educated and 'rich' he can surely afford a great lawyer and get himself citizenship. Getting a green card is definitely not equivalent to a place in jannah...I wish the people from back home who marry girls with a blue/red passport would realize that. :)
I am sorry I haven't read your posts. But....
.....if people living abroad are living on benefits, have a 'mortgage' and 5 kids why are you not interested in moving back to your husband's mansion in Pakistan with EIGHT servants? Do you like the benefits provided by the UK government? :)
Again it's not a visa, it's sponsorship for permanent residence. Of course it doesn't make you rich but it sure helps you get a lot of government benefits that you will not enjoy with a Pakistani passport. So no it's not about getting rich. It's about having more opportunities and being eligible for more government benefits ;) It's also to do with not needing a visa to visit Europe or North America. With a Pakistani passport you need a visa to get into every country in the world.
If you are SURE your husband didn't marry you for your passport, then make sure you never sponsor him or help him with his citizenship.
firstly i dont need to listen to your sentiments about everyone coming here or there for passports....dont we read namaz/follow our religion/etc so that we can get something out of it too..a chance to go to heaven...i doubt we would be reading namaz and doing everything else islam requires had we not to gain anything out of it too.....if i help him get anything, hes my husband for gods sake....if he is playing a dodgy game, i couldnt care less, him getting a passport wont harm me in anyway, if he leaves then he wasnt worth it anyway.....who cares. people think that giving someone a ppassport means they are suddenly eligble for heaven.
yes the perks of a passport....hes rich yes, did i say i was sponsoring him? no. IF that was a requirement i would. and just because he has money he doesnbt need to spend thousands just to show people he didnt marry me for my passport..
and I choose not to liv there, because its my decision. i dont wish to leave my mum dad. to live in a mansion is prob tempting yes, but not at the moment, i have unfinished business here i wont just up and leave to go sit in a rich mans house...however liberal they may be..i have my own life thanks.
and lastly i still dont see many perks....at the moment if he does get nationality..he will have dual nationality..he wont give up his pakidom...and quite frankly dual nationality can work against you if he ever gets in any bother, the uk govt wont help him because of his dual nationality...and he knows this and doesnt care. for someone desperate for uk cit,,,he can renounce his paki natiionality, he hasnt..
were u not reading...i told you he couldve married years ago to a british girl....like me.....he chose not to.