Many Pakistanis are now psychologically defeated by Arab militants’ terror
No one could defeat Pakistanis unless we were defeated psychologically first.
Our intellectuals and so called political leaders are so lame when it comes to Jihadi terror. This is the time of war, and instead of playing milli naghamay, our erstwhile lawyer community is creating more law and order situation.
There was no hope from Islamic parties as they are mostly in cahoots with Ben Laden and his terror friends.
The problem is with the apparently suited booted, highly educated communities who either show apathy, or worse create more anarchy.
So what we had a civilian leader, the country would still be facing tough situation.
Then we have apparently sane people who are supporting Malkand fasad just because this terrorism is popular among some pashtoons.
The bottom line is that lefties and Arab militants have successfuly turned this issue around and forced the whole pakistani nation on the defensive.
How on earth 3000 Arabs can put 160 million Pakistanis on their collective back foot? Only with the help of few Arabized Pakistanis and their leftie media mogals.
Re: Many Pakistanis are now psychologically defeated by Arab militants' terror
How on earth 3000 Arabs can put 160 million Pakistanis on their collective back foot? Only with the help of few Arabized Pakistanis and their leftie media mogals.
Thats a conclusion with limited visibility. When a "elected leader" takes on anyone, he takes all the elected ones and nation with him so there is understanding, there is common base, with military dictatorship in command there is no such thing as "common"... the only thing there is "me, me, me". Do you think problems can be solved with iron fists, without taking nation in confidence, without gaining nation's trust? If answer is yes, then there is nothing which can be done about it and we will have to watch for the events that unfold.
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..... When a "elected leader" takes on anyone, he takes all the elected ones and nation with him so there is understanding, there is common base, with military dictatorship in command there is no such thing as "common"... the only thing there is "me, me, me". ....
Nations come together when they truly perceive a common threat. That job is not reserved for Musharraf, or BB, or NS, Imran, or AH.
Kashmir earthquake was perceived as common catastrophe, and the nation came together. It didn't matter if a general was incharge or a politiko.
The same thing is true now. No political leader is targeting Ben Laden because they are going after the wrong target.
It is the understanding of the issue that matters, not who is sitting in the presidency.
Musharraf was attacked twice (at least) and he didn't start the blame game. The same should be true for all the leaders.
Leader must be statesmen / stateswomen. They don't have to be in PM house to really do something about terror menace.
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Nations come together when they truly perceive a common threat. That job is not reserved for Musharraf, or BB, or NS, Imran, or AH.
But the enemy is not in one place, not on one platform rather an "ideology", so the fight needs to be similar. When there is civilian "collateral" damage of same population then the country can not unite.
If India/Afghanistan/Iran/US attacks today then you will see all hands united as people know where the enemy is etc.
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The same thing is true now. No political leader is targeting Ben Laden because they are going after the wrong target.
It is the understanding of the issue that matters, not who is sitting in the presidency.
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And Bin Laden should not even be "target", rather Bin Ladenism... unfortunately Bin Laden has become the marketing logo now while totally ignoring its foundations.
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Musharraf was attacked twice (at least) and he didn't start the blame game. The same should be true for all the leaders.
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oh yeah, he didn't blame it on terrorists/Al-Keyda.
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Leader must be statesmen / stateswomen. They don't have to be in PM house to really do something about terror menace.
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But nation has to be behind the "statesman/woman" otherwise the fight becomes personal.
Re: Many Pakistanis are now psychologically defeated by Arab militants' terror
I don't know if you've noticed, but Pakistani people in Pakistan have some inkling of sympathy for terrorists. Just because they're doing something to bring the world's superpower down.
I'm not agreeing with how Musharraf is arresting civilians left and right and having them mishandled, including females. But fact of the matter is that other political parties are either in bed with the terrorists or they don't have the balls to deal with the problem because they'd be too busy stealing money and before you know it their governments would fall to MMA types.
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i say MMA should be locked away for good, they aid the ppl like Fazlullah, help get them strong and when shh hits the fan, they're never around to solve their mess. When Lal Masjid fiaso happened, Fazlur-Rehman came for a mild visit to voice his discontent, kinda like sayin to Ghazi 'i know ur right buddy, but right now ain't the right time' and then he fled off to London to be at APC, which btw acccomplished nothing. I think MMA is among the biggest threats facing pakistan right now because they're the production of religion-driven politics that came into being in the 80's and have only gotten stronger and dirtier since then. They couldn't even qwell their own territory (NWFP) while in power, so what did they do? ditch again. it just makes me sick that these ppl can walk around boasting how they're so for Islam. only if the public stopped giving them blind respect and came to its senses.....it's sad.
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right now musharraf seems as the biggest tyrant to some wait till they what will come after him just for the record I am no fan of musharraf myself but he is better than nawaz sharif, benazir , altaf etc]
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But fact of the matter is that other political parties are either in bed with the terrorists or** they don't have the balls to deal with the problem **because they'd be too busy stealing money and before you know it their governments would fall to MMA types.
I guess you didn't read the news where our government freed 25 terrorists so the militants can free up 200+ troops that had "surrendered" to terrorists.... so who is in bed with who again?
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Captain, someone made a good point in another thread. Truthfully, it does seem superficially confusing.
But we don't know who these "terrorists" were. Were they 25 commoners who maybe had some more information into the workings of the network, while not being high profile terrorists themselves? In that case, letting them go and getting some of your soldiers back who might have more valuable information, and whose lives are more valuable, isn't a bad trade off.
Its tactics.
Now if they just released them to go free like CJ had done with his 61, yes, I'd agree that the government is in bed with the terrorists.
I think the government has allowed the problem to fester, no doubt. But like its said here, the MMA was instrumental in letting the problem fester. They had direct control over NWFP and they knew all this crap that was going on in there. They're an inefficient lot, and now when its all coming back to bite them, they can't handle it.
I sincerely think that the "religious" clergy of the country have ruined it and caused more problems than anyone else. And that's sad, because they, of all people, go forth and act as representatives of Islam. This is making muslims worldwide look bad.
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areas of swat under taleban control, they have removed pakistan's flag from buildings! this is no less then an act of war. screw harmony and economy in these situations, they are literally claiming those areas are not within pakistan any more. government must wipe them out, and anyone who supports them.
Re: Many Pakistanis are now psychologically defeated by Arab militants' terror
Captain, someone made a good point in another thread. Truthfully, it does seem superficially confusing.
But we don't know who these "terrorists" were. Were they 25 commoners who maybe had some more information into the workings of the network, while not being high profile terrorists themselves? In that case, letting them go and getting some of your soldiers back who might have more valuable information, and whose lives are more valuable, isn't a bad trade off.
Its tactics.
oh yeah, the tactics, Benazir, NRO, deal with Taliban, release terrorists... its all tactics.... oh wait, I forgot... arrest judiciary.... also tactics... getting the drift?