Many in Islamic world doubt Arabs behind 9/11

http://www.usatoday.com/graphics/news/gra/muslimpoll/frame.htm

Many in Islamic world doubt Arabs behind 9/11

By Andrea Stone, USA TODAY

A sweeping poll of attitudes in the Islamic world shows that most Muslims don’t believe Arabs carried out the Sept. 11 attacks and disapprove of the U.S. military campaign in Afghanistan. The Gallup Organization poll, released Tuesday, is the most comprehensive survey of Muslim countries taken since Sept. 11. It confirms anecdotal evidence of a huge gulf between the West and Muslim nations that existed before the attacks and remains deep.

Although most Muslims condemn the terrorist attacks that sparked the U.S. war in Afghanistan, the poll shows a majority believe the campaign is morally unjustified and express a breathtaking depth of anti-U.S. sentiment.

Respondents overwhelmingly describe the United States as “ruthless, aggressive, conceited, arrogant, easily provoked, biased,” says Gallup Editor-in-Chief Frank Newport. “The people of Islamic countries have significant grievances with the West in general and with the United States in particular.”

Gallup conducted in-person interviews during December and January of 9,924 residents in nine Muslim countries: Indonesia, Iran, Jordan, Kuwait, Lebanon, Morocco, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and Turkey. Key findings:

Although U.S. officials say all 19 of the Sept. 11 hijackers were Arab men, only 18% of those polled in six Islamic countries say they believe Arabs carried out the attacks; 61% say Arabs were not responsible; and 21% say they don’t know.

Just 9% say they think U.S. military action in Afghanistan is morally justified. The least supportive: people in Morocco, Indonesia and Pakistan.

Two-thirds say the attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon were morally unjustifiable, but significant minorities disagree. In Kuwait, which U.S. troops liberated from Iraq in 1991, 36% say the attacks were justifiable, the highest percentage of any country polled.

A slight majority, 53%, view the United States unfavorably. Residents in Pakistan — a key U.S. ally in the war on terrorism — Iran and Saudi Arabia are the most negative.

Muslims dislike President Bush; 58% view him unfavorably.

Only 12% say the West respects Arab or Islamic values. Just 7% say Western nations are fair in their perceptions of Muslim countries.

The key finding is “the strong feeling of resentment that emanates that the United States doesn’t care about them,” says Shibley Telhami, a Middle East expert at the University of Maryland.

The poll results are not statistically adjusted to reflect the populations of the countries surveyed. Margins of sampling error range from 2 percentage points in Pakistan to 4 points in Saudi Arabia, Jordan and Kuwait.

The poll had about 120 questions, but not all were asked in every country because of censorship. For instance, Saudi Arabia, Jordan and Morocco did not allow the question about Arab responsibility for the Sept. 11 attacks.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/sept11/2002/02/27/usat-poll.htm

Of course, many are also devoid of any intelligence. The above are a great example. :k:

well matsu as u claim that arabs are devoid of any intelligence, then would you please explain how these stupid bunch of morons could ever be capable of carrying out such a calculated attack - an attack which neither cia nor fbi - two of the best and surely very intelligent agencies- were able to prevent.

Y'know, that's kinda funny.. considering the toothless rednecks in America will probably laugh at this story and call Moo-slims dumbasses for it.. even though well over half of them still believe Iraq did it all.

I think it is more sad than funny. The truth is that these toothless rednecks would still be closer to the truth than the uneducated, brainwashed, al Jazeera-watching conspiracy theorists who answered this poll. Until this group can accept responsibility for the their actions they will continue to waller in their miserable conditions.

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Until this group can accept responsibility for the their actions they will continue to waller in their miserable conditions.
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how does soemone who is ill-informed be "responsible" for some alleged actions.

some uneducated guy sitting in some remote village in Pakistan may be misinformed or unaware, but which of his actions do you want him to accept responsibility for?

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how does soemone who is ill-informed be "responsible" for some alleged actions.

some uneducated guy sitting in some remote village in Pakistan may be misinformed or unaware, but which of his actions do you want him to accept responsibility for?
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I am not saying he has any personal responsbility, but to acknowledge that it was Arabs and not the US or Jews who did it.

No, I'm sorry. I think this is one of the cases where we can safely say there is no difference.

Seminole

there is a word in urdu.."jahalat" almost the same thing as ignorance. its sheer ignorance and misinformation. its like americans believing saddam was behind 9/11..

When we see this happening in technologically advanced societies like US where the information infratsructure is so advanced, with so many varied choices for information.. is it any surprise that in countries where the media/information choices and options are not that varied, and there are vested interests by groups to keep people riled up, that people have incorrect info.

try watching fox news and cnmn cover the same political event..and see the difference in what is being said..now imagine only being exposed to fox or to cnn for all your info needs.. the biased perspective will taint your view of the situation as well.

somone hears something 5 times and believe that is the truth..propganda is a powerful tool, works here, works elsewhere. except in other areas, lck of education, the limited choices, the historical suspicion due to what is perceived to be a lopsided policy, emotions coupled with misinformation hoodwink people from the truth.

Fraudiya simple question: Are the guys who are saying that arabs/muslims were not responsible for 9/11, right or wrong? Forget about jahalat of americans...we are reminded how ignorant we are all the time on this board. Give us your views on whether these guys are right in their assessment or wrong?

Surprised that Hate-India lobby hasn't proposed that it wasn't Arabs but Indians that did 9/11! Where are Confettiguy, armughal et al when we need them?

I am surprised! Where are the people who've so aggressively tried to pin the blame on the Arabs? Come on folks...I am getting bored!

Shamsheer ul Haq

I liked this article from Salam Pax, the Baghdad Blogger:

Salam Pax
Wednesday May 5, 2004
The Guardian

The Iraqi mind must have a special little area just for thinking up conspiracy theories: an area triggered into action by the sight of any US army vehicle. This is nothing new - when the Jordanian embassy was bombed last year, there were people saying they saw a US helicopter firing at the building - but lately it has got out of control.
Because of the colossal traffic jams in the city these days, I have to endure more than the average person’s share of these theories. The rant usually starts after we sight the reason for the traffic jam in which I and Mr Taxi Driver are stuck - usually an American checkpoint (Iraqi checkpoints have all but disappeared). The alarms go off when a sentence starts: “By Allah, look at them, what do they think they are doing?” The following 40 minutes will be a thesis on the wicked ways of the coalition.

I was informed, for example, that the real reason for the checkpoints is to plant explosives on our cars so that they blame Iraqis later when they go off. “Why do you think they make us get out of our cars and stand so far away from them? Eh? Eh?” And in case you were wondering who is writing all those slogans on the walls, it is the Americans and the Iraqi traitors who help them: “I saw them with my own eyes, may the light of day be puffed out of them if I was lying. It was late, they came in their cars and two went to the walls and splashed black paint all over the signs.” The driver was talking about a huge sign encouraging Iraqis to report any suspicious activities to local Iraqi police.

On a third occasion I was informed that the reason for the roadblocks is to humiliate us and remind us who is in control. He didn’t change his mind when we found out that there was a roadside bomb and the Humvees were part of a team trying to defuse it.

What really gets me going is the mention of the word “jihad”. That’s when I start having fun. It totally confuses them, for instance, when you remind them that the so-called jihadis are killing more of their innocent Muslim brothers than infidel invaders. That their actions are turning the streets into dangerous grounds for our families.“So your hero, the jihadi, kills 65 Iraqi policemen and hurts more than 100 Iraqi civilians while injuring four infidel invaders. Mr Taxi Driver, you are not a Muslim if you think Allah says this is what jihad should be!” This usually starts them stuttering, with the exception of the time the driver told me I was a heretic and a traitor. I have had so many arguments with taxi drivers in the past week that if they had a union they would have banned me for life from ever getting into one.

Tigris Tales | Iraq | The Guardian

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I am surprised! Where are the people who've so aggressively tried to pin the blame on the Arabs?
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we're too busy laughing at you

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we're too busy laughing at you
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Select one of the following reasons what would prompt you to laugh at me:

  1. Your inability to understand the post thus thinking that it was a joke.
  2. Your inability to produce any evidence that might suggest that Arabs were behind the attacks.
  3. You are a self hating muslim.

I'd like to know what you mean by "WE". As I understand, most of the people here will agree with me that Arabs were not behind this attack.

Instead of laughing like a neanderthal, please post something of challenging substance.

Shamsheer ul Haq

technically people who commit those sort of acts are not muslim so they're right on technicality.

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technically people who commit those sort of acts are not muslim so they're right on technicality.
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Are you also assuming that it was the Arabs who committed this horrendous crime?

People who are responsible for this monstrosity are of course not muslim, they are christians and jews who have affiliations with American and Israeli governments.

Shamsheer ul Haq

errr..the fact that that terrorist Bin Ladin admited it...might be someting to do with it...If there are more like you, I have a bridge I want to sell..give me their contact info.

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Well since you and people like you who are not inside a camel's rear end should have no problems providing unprecedented, unequivocal, irrefutable evidence linking Arabs to the 9/11 events.

SHOW ME SOME PROOF!

Shamsheer ul Haq
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It’s been shown, why waste another thread, there are dozens providing what you seek brother, good luck on your journey.

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It’s been shown, why waste another thread, there are dozens providing what you seek brother, good luck on your journey.
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All circumstantial....

Shamsheer ul Haq