Mansoor Hallaj - A Controversy unresolved

**“I have seen my Lord with the eye of my heart, and I said: ‘Who are You?’ He said: ‘You.’"
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Considering the trial period of nine years and fatwa of many authentic (read orthodox) scholars, what were the reasons for killing him? What was his influence on society then? Whether his death stopped spreading his views?

mann nami goyam AnalHaq(I am not saying that i am truth) yar mi goyad b go(but my beloved talk in me)

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Charge-sheet against Mansoor

1- He claimed to be a prophet, then he went further and said that he was God. He used to say, “I am Allaah,” and he commanded his daughter-in-law to prostrate to him. She said, “Should I prostrate to someone other than Allaah?” He said, “There is a god in the heavens and a god on earth.”

2- He believed in incarnation and union with the Divine, i.e., that Allaah was incarnated in him, and that he and Allaah had become one and the same – exalted be Allaah far above that.

This is what made him acceptable to the Christian Orientalists, because he shared their belief in incarnation, for they believe that God was incarnated in Jesus (‘Eesa, peace be upon him). Hence al-Hallaaj spoke of divine nature and human nature as the Christians do.

Some of the lines of verse that he composed said:

“Glory be to the one Whose human form manifested the secret of His divinity

Then He emerged among His creation in the form of one who eats and drinks.”

When Ibn Haneef heard these lines, he said, “May the curse of Allaah be upon the one who said this.” **It was said to him, “This is the poetry of al-Hallaaj.” He said, “If this is what he believes, then he is a kaafir.” **

3- He heard someone reciting a verse from the Qur’aan, and he said, “I am able to compose something like that.”

4- Another of his lines of poetry says:

** “People formed different beliefs about God, and I believe in everything that they believed.” **

These words imply that he approved of and believed in all forms of kufr that the misguided sects of humanity believe in, but it is a contradictory notion that no sound mind can accept. How can anyone believe in Tawheed and shirk at the same time?

5- He said things which denied the pillars and basic principles of Islam, namely prayer, zakaah, fasting and Hajj.

6- He used to say that the souls of the Prophets had been reincarnated in the bodies of his companions and students. So he would say to one of them, “You are Nooh”; and to another, “You are Moosa”; and to another, “You are Muhammad.”

7- When he was taken out to be executed, he said to his companions, “Do not worry about this, for I will return to you after thirty days,” He was executed and he never came back.

Because of these sayings and others, the scholars were agreed that he was a kaafir and a heretic, and for this reason he was executed in Baghdad in 309 AH. Similarly, **most of the Sufis denounced him and denied that he was one of them. Among those who denounced him was al-Junayd, and he was not mentioned by Abu’l-Qaasim al-Qushayri in his book in which he mentioned many of the Sufi shaykhs. **

The one who strove to have him executed and who held a council in which he ruled that he deserved to be executed was al-Qaadi Abu ‘Umar Muhammad ibn Yoosuf al-Maaliki (may Allaah have mercy on him). Ibn Katheer praised him for that and said, “One of his greatest and most correct judgements was his ruling that al-Husayn ibn Mansoor al-Hallaaj was to be executed.” (al-Bidaayah wa’l-Nihaayah, 11/172)

Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: “Whoever believes what al-Hallaaj believed in and agrees with the ideas for which al-Hallaaj was executed, is a kaafir and an apostate, according to the consensus of the Muslims. For the Muslims executed him because of his belief in incarnation, union with the Divine and other heretical beliefs, such as his saying, ‘I am Allaah,’ and, ‘There is a god in the heavens and a god on earth.’ … Al-Hallaaj performed extraordinary feats and various kinds of magic, and there are books of magic which are attributed to him. In conclusion, there is no dispute among the ummah that whoever believes that Allaah can be incarnated in a human being and be as one with him, or that a human being can be a god, is a kaafir whose blood it is permissible to shed. On this basis al-Hallaaj was executed.”

(Majmoo’ al-Fataawa, 2/480)

He also said: “We do not know of anyone among the imams of the Muslims who spoke well of al-Hallaaj, neither among the scholars nor among the shaykhs. But some of the people did not comment on him because they did not know about him.”

(Majmoo’ al-Fataawa, 2/483)

For more information, see Taareekh Baghdaad by al-Khateeb al-Baghdaadi, 8/112-141; al-Muntazam by Ibn al-Jawzi, 13/201-206; Siyar A’laam al-Nubalaa’ by al-Shihaabi, 14/313-354; al-Bidaayah wa’l-Nihaayah by Ibn Katheer, 11/132-144

And Allaah is the Guide to the Straight Path.

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Nice to know, well ulama did right thing by putting him to death.

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:emmy: There is also another side of the story.. He is said to be the founder of Taswwuf and as we know that no Sufi has come with such claims as were attributed to Hallaj..so we need to investigate further.

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Peace muqawwee123

I have heard another story and this is that he was killed to uphold the Shari'ah sentencing for treason related blasphemy and it did not matter whether he had become drowned in the realisation of Allah (SWT).

He had become insane with Dhikr - and he walked himself into the flames knowing that he will lose himself in them. Al-Hallaj brought tasawwuf to the lay folk ... Before him it was limited to the Ulema. He used the techniques of ihsan to make weak Muslims stronger in their faith for the first time ... He was criticised for this, but later all tariqahs take weak Muslims to strengthen them in Islam.

When he became dangerous to society then his end was needed by Shariah law. We understand our separation from Allah (SWT) and our unity with Him as one in the same thing. However, if we ignore our separation then our focus of unity with Him will remove us from Shari'ah ... If the scholars allowed him to live then he would lead others astray.

It is not for us to claim with our own mouths any unity with Allah (SWT). By losing oneself in Allah (SWT) they become useless, no more prayers, no more productive work and no more sense ... Although he may be forgiven for this Allahu'alim, anyone who followed his words literally would not be forgiven - this hence became a fitnah for society that had to be stopped.

The traditions say that when he was killed his blood bubbled and upon each bubble bursting were the sounds "Ana al-Haqq".

There are two axes of being ... the corporeal and the spiritual ... both are valid - however where tawhid applies to the corporeal universe tasuwwuf belongs in the spiritual one ... And they both meet each other at the middle ... when we journey down to infinity we realise that our existence is so insignificant it might as well be nothing ... but then if we journey on the spiritual path to unity we conclude that we are Him ... both are contraversial ... We cannot be nothing since we negate the act of Creation and we can't be Him as we are us ... we are finite and must remain in the finite.

According to the story it is possible for us to go too far and create a condition which emulates - an amazing phenomenon - such as with the sound from the bubbles ... but we are not supposed to do this where it compromises our exhibited belief and affect on society.

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yaar bhaio wese*** halool*** ka concept to HARAM haina?

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Reading your second posts I conclude that he had some brain disease. He should have been sent to a mental asylum instead of being killed.

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But I said its a charge sheet. Again, we have to see, how his supporters defend him.

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Aray LogoN tumhaRa kia - mein janoo mera khuda janaY :)

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As far as I read, Mansoor was a voice against injustice and corruption that lead to his death. So he was probably Socrates of his era, who was misunderstood.

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HAHA INTELLECTUALS :@

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Ironically, the reasons for which he was being hanged by a thoroughly corrupt government had nothing to do with his own call; he was being killed for political reasons. During the last few years, his fervent sermons had stirred up a revolution in Baghdad that sought to purify the decaying and corrupt milieu of the Abbasid Empire. In fact, Caliph al-Muqtadir had been deposed by an unprecedented coup in December 908, but the next day the new Caliph was removed by the powerful generals. Thus the young al-Muqtadir regained caliphate though the real control of power remained in the hands of his mother and more so in the hands of military generals who then thrived on corruption and power politics of the worst kind.

**For al-Hallaj, the reasons for his hanging had no importance. He had reached a state in his mystical journey where reasons had no meaning; only his unflinching love for God mattered. Thus when he was hanged that night before an enormous crowd that had gathered to witness hanging, he was smiling, eagerly awaiting the meeting with his Lord. Among those who had gathered around the place of hanging were many celebrated Sufis of Baghdad, including his friend Shibli, who threw a red rose toward al-Hallaj in a highly symbolic act that has drawn attention of countless scholars over the centuries.
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Over the last 1085 years, Mansur al-Hallaj has become one of the most celebrated legends of Islamic mysticism and poetry. Generations of Sufis, poets, and scholars have written about him, and he continues to draw attention both in the East and the West. He has left behind a Divan, a short treatise of eleven chapters, Kitab al-Tawasin, which contains one of the best eulogies of the Prophet ever composed in any language, and some three hundred and fifty isolated sayings. It is, however, not the corpus of his works that has made this extraordinary man a living legend, it is the scant record of his mystical journey and his public testimony to it that has made him what he is.

He was not a recluse, but a man of action who has left a deep mark on Islamic thought. In addition to the function he serves for those on the mystical journey, he is also a heroic figure for those who wish to bring about a change in the public domain. He has provided guidance and inspiration to such varied men and women as Iqbal, Goethe, Dante, and Louis Massignon. Massignon, in fact, spent his entire life collecting, annotating, and editing his works

http://cyclewalabanda.blogspot.com/2008/03/remembering-al-hallaj-by-dr-muzaffar.html

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KHURAFAAAT :@ :slight_smile:

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:hmmm: how?

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Halool ka concept to haram haina,so isliye.....and many many other things

and is article mein koi context hee nai dia bhai saahb ne

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What do you mean by context, when he referred to the writers who followed his philosophy and we all know that Sufi saints always revered him as an Icon.

As far as question of Halool and its being Haram is concerned, thats quite complicated and philosophical matter and many people says that it is identical to concept of trinity in Christianity and a reason why he is also famous amongst Christian as well.

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And what kind of problems you have against intellectuals of GS. :@:

woh janain aur unn ka khuda janay . tainoon key ?

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Ninja :smilestar: why don’t you say something on topic?

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I heard his name from my granny that he was a majzub and Allah knows the best…

i dont know much about him.Actually through this thread i gained most of my knowledge of Al-Hallaj…

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Nice point. Majzoob means one who is absorbed / lost.. thats where the concept of Halool starts.