"Mannat" in Islam

[KKF]

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^but I also think these "mannats" are a way to build your confidence in your dua when you sacrifice your time or money you feel more deserving of Allah granting your dua because in a way you have humbled yourself, and if it increases your faith in your dua then there is no harm in that.

Allah says ask ME, that doesn't mean that one should try to nauuzobillah bribe Allah...ask whatever 'jaaiz' thing you wanna ask and let Allah decide if it's good for you or if it's in your best interest. that's the reason the etiquette of du'aa requires you to say *"O'Allah, grant me my wishes ONLY if it's in my best ineterest!" *... once it has been granted then you may do whatever good deeds/sadaqaat you wanna do...putting conditions on good deeds/sadaqaat ahead of your wishes and it's fulfillment is just NOT a good/recommended way of asking Allah to grant your wishes.

it's NOT Haraam but an indecent way of asking Allah for His favours.

[polished_gems]

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Allah says ask ME, that doesn't mean that one should try to nauuzobillah bribe Allah...ask whatever 'jaaiz' thing you wanna ask and let Allah decide if it's good for you or if it's in your best interest. that's the reason the etiquette of du'aa requires you to say *"O'Allah, grant me my wishes ONLY if it's in my best ineterest!" *... once it has been granted then you may do whatever good deeds/sadaqaat you wanna do...putting conditions on good deeds/sadaqaat ahead of your wishes and it's fulfillment is just NOT a good/recommended way of asking Allah to grant your wishes.

it's NOT Haraam but an indecent way of asking Allah for His favours.

I dont' do this. I'm just saying that this might be the reason people do it, I have not set a bribe, but I have certainly given extra prayers in thanks and I view it as gratitude? Allah knows best. And I thought God grants only what is beneficial to us and the "no" is a form of rejection that translates its not good for you. My mind when it comes to prayers is very open. I don't give up easily.

[xjatti2khanx]

"Mannat" in Islam

I agree with CB i think its wrong, also when people say mainay maanat mangi huwi hai or salaam dayna hai at such a darbar or a baba from a well known mountain area and that we will give a bhakra or a daig chawaal if such a thing happens, is it wrong? I know my own family in pak have done this, but after reading the above it seems wrong now.

[TLK]

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Allah says ask ME, that doesn't mean that one should try to nauuzobillah bribe Allah...ask whatever 'jaaiz' thing you wanna ask and let Allah decide if it's good for you or if it's in your best interest. that's the reason the etiquette of du'aa requires you to say *"O'Allah, grant me my wishes ONLY if it's in my best ineterest!" *... once it has been granted then you may do whatever good deeds/sadaqaat you wanna do...putting conditions on good deeds/sadaqaat ahead of your wishes and it's fulfillment is just NOT a good/recommended way of asking Allah to grant your wishes.

it's NOT Haraam but an indecent way of asking Allah for His favours.

So by this explanation, me simply saying that 'oh mere allah, mera 'falaan' kaam karwa dijeeye. Main aap ka baRaa shukarguzaar hoon gaa' is wrong, because I am trying to bribe Allah by offering my gratitude in return?

[Chicken_Biryani]

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^ I think its not right to compare a dua with mannat ..

Like a child tells his father , dad , i will be thankful to you if you did this - v/s - Dad , if you did this , i will do this for you

The difference is immense in a mere thank you and putting a condition in the name of saying thanks ..

[TLK]

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^ I think its not right to compare a dua with mannat ..

Like a child tells his father , dad , i will be thankful to you if you did this - v/s - Dad , if you did this , i will do this for you

The difference is immense in a mere thank you and putting a condition in the name of saying thanks ..

Shukarguzaar hoon gaa/das hazaar rupay sadqaa karoon gaa/ek mahinay rozay rakhkhoon gaa. What is the difference in these 3?

[KKF]

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So by this explanation, me simply saying that 'oh mere allah, mera 'falaan' kaam karwa dijeeye. Main aap ka baRaa shukarguzaar hoon gaa' is wrong, because I am trying to bribe Allah by offering my gratitude in return?

i'm sorry but i don't do "baHs baraaye baHs". i think my post is self explanatory. i said don't tie your du'a and good deeds/sadaaqaat with the fulfillment of your wishes.

[TLK]

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I am not doing behes baraa'e behes. I am saying that its ok and nothing wrong in doing that. I was giving an example to justify my point.

[Pagluu]

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وَمَا أَنْفَقْتُمْ مِنْ نَفَقَةٍ أَوْ نَذَرْتُمْ مِنْ نَذْرٍ فَإِنَّ اللَّهَ يَعْلَمُهُ ۗ وَمَا لِلظَّالِمِينَ مِنْ أَنْصَارٍ

[2:270] And whatever alms you give or (whatever) vow you vow, surely Allah knows it; and the unjust shall have no helpers.

يُوفُونَ بِالنَّذْرِ وَيَخَافُونَ يَوْمًا كَانَ شَرُّهُ مُسْتَطِيرً
وَيُطْعِمُونَ الطَّعَامَ عَلَىٰ حُبِّهِ مِسْكِينًا وَيَتِيمًا وَأَسِيرًا
إِنَّمَا نُطْعِمُكُمْ لِوَجْهِ اللَّهِ لَا نُرِيدُ مِنْكُمْ جَزَاءً وَلَا شُكُورًا

[76:7] They fulfill vows and fear a day the evil of which shall be spreading far and wide
[76:8] And they give food out of love for Him to the poor and the orphan and the captive
[76:9] We only feed you for Allah's sake; we desire from you neither reward nor thanks

[paki_rana]

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Ya Allah pak ko jita de 2 nafel paronga..

Is it jaiz?

[Muzna]

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I agree with CB on the majority of what she has presented......it makes sense to me.
Allah truly is in no need of anything from us, material or not for He has enough makhlooq that do nothing but worship Him 24x7.
Ultimately anything that we do in life can only harm or benefit ourselves.

I also understand the part about the "jaiz mangain".......but what about the fact that we never really know what is "good" for us?

What if Allah deemed something totally innocent to be harmful for us at a particular time.......e.g. what if passing all her GCSEs was not in CB's best interest yet uss nay mannat maan lee hoti? then what?

[polished_gems]

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But muzna I thought Allah not granting our prayer was a sign of the prayer not being in our best interest, surely if Allah is all knowing and wise he does not need a reminder for granting what is in our best interest or not? not arguing just clarifying.

[lethal_kamikaze]

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Peace All,

I agree with Dr Israr's stance on it ..

I see mannat as setting a condition infront of Allah .. that is something I completely see as disrespectful to the Almighty ..

We can do a gesture of thanks without putting a condition .. for example , I make a dua and Allah SWA accepts it and blesses me , as a gesture of thanks I do khairaat or nafals or roza's .. I feel that is a positive way of saying thanks ..

But when people say if Allah does this for me , then i will do this and that ... I feel Allah doesnt need materialistic acts out of us !

This reminds me actually of a time when I sat my GCSE's and thought I was definitely going to flip in one or two of them .. and did a mannat of 1000 nafals if I passed ! .. but somewhere in my heart I knew I was putting a condition infront of Allah and felt so bad for doing that .. I decided to do my 1000 nafals before the results came as a gesture of apology for putting the condition . I am glad I did that , coz the feeling of guilt left me .. and Alhumdullillah Allah blessed me with excellent results as well .

so yeah, there's a difference between doing good deeds as a gesture of Thanks and doing good deeds as part of a condition ..

Allah says ask ME, that doesn't mean that one should try to nauuzobillah bribe Allah...ask whatever 'jaaiz' thing you wanna ask and let Allah decide if it's good for you or if it's in your best interest. that's the reason the etiquette of du'aa requires you to say *"O'Allah, grant me my wishes ONLY if it's in my best ineterest!" *... once it has been granted then you may do whatever good deeds/sadaqaat you wanna do...putting conditions on good deeds/sadaqaat ahead of your wishes and it's fulfillment is just NOT a good/recommended way of asking Allah to grant your wishes.

it's NOT Haraam but an indecent way of asking Allah for His favours.

I agree with CB i think its wrong, also when people say mainay maanat mangi huwi hai or salaam dayna hai at such a darbar or a baba from a well known mountain area and that we will give a bhakra or a daig chawaal if such a thing happens, is it wrong? I know my own family in pak have done this, but after reading the above it seems wrong now.

I agree with CB on the majority of what she has presented......it makes sense to me. Allah truly is in no need of anything from us, material or not for He has enough makhlooq that do nothing but worship Him 24x7. Ultimately anything that we do in life can only harm or benefit ourselves.

I also understand the part about the "jaiz mangain".......but what about the fact that we never really know what is "good" for us?

What if Allah deemed something totally innocent to be harmful for us at a particular time.......e.g. what if passing all her GCSEs was not in CB's best interest yet uss nay mannat maan lee hoti? then what?

Those who said asking 'mannat' is disrespectful, not good/recommeneded and like putting ahead conditions, I would like to say that we read namaaz, which is almost same except funeral and eid prayers. At very beginning we do first "Niyat" that i'm offering two or four rakats of fajer or dhuhar or any other namaaz otherwise we at our own won't knows which namaaz we are about to offer?

So giving away something after fulfilment of any 'manaat' is not equal to 'charity (sadqa)'. It is different and some1 who do extra struggle for it will be rewarded extra in additions of all other rewards which we get in returns of 'Arkaan-e-Islam'.