http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/06/21/ap/world/mainD8ICKLF80.shtml
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And then you had some people even on GS who denied that it was Pakistanis and Pakistani groups doing this kind of stuff, and that foreigners were doing it all...
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isn’t the criminal caught a foreigner? 
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Where did you read he is a foreigner? He seems to be Balochi.
And don't worry, there are still many ways for some to deny that he did anything wrong or that he belongs to a particular ideaology.
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Yeah some Pakistanis but misguided by Arab and Afghan clerics.. they have vested interest in Pakistan. In the power play, they will eventually manage to break Pakistan.
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These killers of Pakistani-Shias (if proven guilty) should be hanged in public. They do not deserve any kind of leniency.
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^ if they are hanged, there will be counter reaction from Arab-backed Wahabi scholars and more violence will result.. there seems to be no easy solution to the whole sectarian violence problem.
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Let's hope this ******* is tried then hanged soon!
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The easiest solution is to stop disrespecting respected figures of other sects , if you do then only you have the primary responsibility of your sufferings.
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bihari:
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The easiest solution is to stop disrespecting respected figures of other sects ,
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So if some idiot from a group disrespects the respected figure of one sect then it is ok to randomly kill OTHER people belonging to that idiot's sect?
Is this what you are suggesting? Collective punishment? Do you think it is moral, let alone Islamic?
The right solution is to stop hate-teachings in disguise of Islamic teachings by all sects and all groups. Anyone school or madressah which is proven to do it should be closed. Any mosque which allows its Friday Imams to spew hatred against other sects should be closed. And anyone who kill, or plans to kill, innocent people of any sect or religion, should be punished as what they really are: THE KILLERS.
And anyone who supports or has soft corner for these fitnah-mongers should be declared a ostracized by the society.
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So if some idiot from a group disrespects the respected figure of one sect then it is ok to randomly kill OTHER people belonging to that idiot's sect? Is this what you are suggesting? Collective punishment? Do you think it is moral, let alone Islamic? .
If some idiot from one sect disrespect the respected figure of one sect in his book /speech then some idiot from other sect will do what is being done today then idiots fom first sect will reply back and the chain starts.
whose fault is this bhai jan-
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Like I said, munna, it is the fault of everyone who spews hatred against other sects. And it is the fault of their supporters who keep soft corner and overlook killings of minority sects in thousands, just because SOME idiot disrespected some people some think respectful.
Munna Bihari, killing of an innocent person, whether muslim or not, is a crime, and anyone who does it, irrespective of the reason, is a criminal, in every sense of the word. Agreed?
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Bao Bihari: Bhai, fault is of those retarded lunatics who act in such way (abusing and killing others living in the country) and those who incite them.
If there would be any reactions (on hanging of this person) then those who would react, they should be charged of encouraging killings and should get imprisoned too.
There is no excuse of reacting by anyone on basis of disrespects (other then prophets). If that is excuse then supporters of Bai-Nazeer and Nawaz Shareef should start killing all who disrespect their leaders (whom they respect). It is ridiculous. Even supporters of Bush would start killing those that disrespect Bush. Well, there are people (KKK) who would love to kill those who disrespect Adolf Hitler but that does not mean that if they get caught, they should not get punished for that.
It is duty of a country to safeguard people living there (whoever they maybe) and no one in the country has any right to abuse, kill or incite killings of other citizens living in the country. If anyone does, State iron hand should deal with those more harshly then acts of these retarded lunatics.
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i am not finding excuses . i am all for punishment to these people BUT the unless core problem is not identified the probem will remain as it is.
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Munna Bihari, killing of an innocent person, whether muslim or not, is a crime, and anyone who does it, irrespective of the reason, is a criminal, in every sense of the word. Agreed?
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Aaho- Agreed :)
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Agreed. But how would you implement this among masses? meaning, how would you make sure everyone understands this and this never happens... I am for laws that punish harshly anyone who misuses religious teachings. Secondly, foreign influence(Arab, Afghan, or even Indian in case of Baloch, MQM) must stop. Unless and until we set a few examples, this will go on forever.
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1-I suggest strict ban on the books igniting secretarianism, no disrespect/abuses on sahabh:razi: and Ahle e Bait 
be allowed.
2-Foreign influence mainly Irani/Arab/Afghan must stop.
3-Also third parties benefitting from the situations be identified. not all killing are made on secretarian bases alone.
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Who are the third parties benefitting from the situations as you point out?
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That means cleaning up both Shia and Sunni sharia. Too big of task! Better to say good by to Mullahs and have a non-Mullah country where Maulvis are only to provide some basic services in the event of Khushi, Ghami (births, weddings, deaths etc).
3-Also third parties benefitting from the situations be identified. ...
Your #2 and #3 simply shows we haven't developed strong pro-Pakistan sense. That is why every Al and Agha can show up to bend our wax-nose.
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so who would be the khateeb on Fridays? Maulana Hazrat Musharraf? or Mufti Sheikh Rasheed? or the likes?
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bihari:
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BUT the unless core problem is not identified the probem will remain as it is.
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I think the core problem is already identified and appreciated by everyone. It is not good for anyone to disrespect others, and this holds true even for non-Muslims. And so if someone really does it then he should be reprimanded and stopped. But the way to stop it is not to kill the person, which is a criminal act, rather the way is to use law and police to do it.
The problem is that our religious people know only one way to "punish" someone, and it is to KILL him. Their boorish views know nothing about civilized response to an idiot. And this makes BOTH of them belong to same category of stupidity.
In the end what happens is that some innocent people, who have absolutely nothing to do with respect or disrespect are killed. And the sad part is that many common people of our country take it to be a justified act, even though they know very well that what those religious terrorists are doing is nothing but criminal act. And looking at it from Islamic point of view, it will definitely take those terrorists right in the middle of Hell.
This is what upsets me. I know militants and extremists like Lashkar e Jhangvi are in very small minority in Pak, but there are many common Pakistanis who keep soft corner for their criminal actions.