Maliki way of offering Salah

Years ago, the first time I saw a gentleman at our college’s mosque offering prayers while keeping his hands on his side, I was more than a bit surprised. A classfellow, who was with me, explained that the gentleman must be a follower of Maliki madhab, who keep their hands on their sides while offering salah. On further inquiry, my classfellow said that the real deal is that Imam Maalik was severely tortured, and was unable to raise his hands at all during salah. Those who followed his interpretation on Islamic rulings, mistakenly adopted his prayer-style too, and the practice continues todate.

Seems incredible.

Anyone knows anything more about this?

I've seen some Malikis pray with their arms to the side. I will look it up and see what I can find, then post here insha'Allah. As I myself am interested to know the source.

The Holy Prophet :saw: also used to pray with his hands at his sides, the reason being that sometimes when he used to pray with his hands folded, the Kuffar would sneak up behind him and place statues of their gods where the elbows touch the torso…As a result the Holy Prophet :saw: also prayed with his hands to his side so that the Kuffar don’t do that…

Wallah-o-Alam

hands at sides, while praying is the way of Ahle Bait(A). surprised?

Our family friends a Moroccan family use to pray like that.
Lajawab do you have any references for the Prophet :saw: praying that way?

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**hands at sides,
* while praying is the way of Ahle Bait(A). surprised?
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most of the followers of jaafari fiqh also pray with their hands on the sides....

the important thing is to pray....
i dont think Allah will ask us where we kept our hands while praying....

Re: Maliki way of offering Salah

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Originally posted by Faisal: *
On further inquiry, my classfellow said that the real deal is that Imam Maalik was severely tortured, and was unable to raise his hands at all during *salah
. Those who followed his interpretation on Islamic rulings, mistakenly adopted his prayer-style too, and the practice continues todate.

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  1. What is the proof of this statement? Any reference?
  2. Why didn't Imam Malik tell his followers that the reason he has his hands straight is that he is unable to do it? Was it difficult to explain?

Your class-fellow is either deliberately telling lies or is passing someone else's lies.

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most of the followers of jaafari fiqh also pray with their hands on the sides....

the important thing is to pray....
i dont think Allah will ask us where we kept our hands while praying....
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definately the important thing is to pray..but also pray like the way Prophet (pbuh&up) prayed.

Some Shias in South Lebanon pray with their hands folded. I was kind of surprised.

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1. What is the proof of this statement? Any reference?
2. Why didn't Imam Malik tell his followers that the reason he has his hands straight is that he is unable to do it? Was it difficult to explain?

Your class-fellow is either deliberately telling lies or is passing someone else's lies.
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Right. And that is the purpose of the thread... that does any one knows anything more about it. In case you read the first post again, you will notice, I said,I found the whole story incredible (as in 'hard to believe'). So, if you have better information, bring it forward. Its possible that someone comes in and says "Malikis don't even pray like that, so the whole notion is incorrect"... which is fine, cz I don't interact with Malikis, and this is all to get some knowledge.

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definately the important thing is to pray..but also pray like the way Prophet (pbuh&up) prayed.
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Yes... and seems like our Prophet (Peace be Upon him) prayed like that, and he prayed in some other ways as well. So all of them are what he did at one point or another, and as long as we are praying thats the most important thing. :-)

I know for sure that one of the four masalik of Ahle Sunnat offer namaz with hands straight. Either Maliki or Shafii. But I think it is Maliki, as you said.

I think the question you are asking is, why do Maliki pray like this?
The answer has to do with why there are four masalik and not one? After the passing of around 250 years, there was too much confusion as to what are the rulings of fiqh regarding various issues. That's when these four imams started collecting information on their own, and came up with answers. Today Ahle Sunnat follow either one of the four masalik, as compiled by the fours imams. Hanafi, Shafii, Hambali, and Maliki. The rulings of these imams differ from each other in many respects, but they are of one view regarding the beliefs and usool. That's what make them Ahle Sunnat.

Coming to the issue at hand, 3 out of 4 imams came to the conclusion that Prophet prayed with hands folded. (They, however, differ as to where should the hands be put). But one imam, Imam Maliki, concluded that Prophet prayed with hands straight. And that's why all Malikis pray like this.

No one can say that Malikis are wrong or vice versa on this issue. Because ahadeeth do not say anything on this issue.

As far as Shias are concerned, I have heard that they say that although Prophet prayed with hands folded in the beginning, but some munafiqeen used to put little statues of their gods in their sleeves; and used to pray to them when they went in sajda. So Prophet changed the posture and asked to pray with hands straight, so that they are not able to put the statues.

That might be the reason why Imam Malik gave this ruling.

As far as i think (may Allah forgive me if i am wrong), the statue story seems wrong. How could the Prophet :saw: tolerate anyone coming to Islam and also worshipping statues. Worshipping statues is against the very essence of Islam. It nullifies the concept of Tauheed. Islam is pure from all such things. Therefore I think that hands are not folded not because of statues but because that way is just fine and acceptable as the Prophet :saw: did so.

I am also not sure about the authenticity of it. But I would say that Prophet never "allowed" small statues during namaz. It was some munafiqeen who used to do it secretly.

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but because that way is just fine and acceptable as the Prophet did so.
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So you are saying that Malikis are wrong? How can you prove them wrong? What proof do you have that praying with hands straight is wrong? Any hadeeth or Quranic verse?

I agree with Islamabad. I dont believe the statue story was behind the Prophet praying with his hands on his sides. From shias POV, the Prophet (saw) always prayed with hands by the side. It was H.Umer that started the hand folding action.

Back to the topic, I know for sure most malikis pray with their hands by their sides, but am not really sure of its background, as in why they do it. I dunno, may be its the same reason as shias.

The Maliki Argument for not Folding the Arms in Salat

:salam:

I am not a Malaki but found the following article on the net.
It can be downloaded from Source

The Maliki Argument for not Folding the Arms in Salat

By Abdullah bin Hamid Ali

Questions are being asked about what appears to be a novel practice in the North American Continent of people praying with their hands at their sides instead of folding them over their chests as has been reported in sound traditions about the Prophet – may Allah bless him and grant him peace.

It is common knowledge to Muslims everywhere that this was a practice of the virtuous Imam and erudite Malik ibn Anas. What has also become commonplace is to hear a rather unsupportable explanation of why he did it. That is, that Imam Malik only prayed with his arms at his sides because he was tortured and therefore unable to fold his arms on his chest.

This claim, after being unsupported by fact, history, or logic, is clearly contravened by the explicit statement of the Imam himself. We challenge such a claim to be verified by and in any of the traditionally relied upon books of Islamic history. One will find oneself hard-pressed to find any evidence substantiating this argument.

Then, logically speaking, it would seem to be quite unreasonable to surmise that Imam Malik didn’t have the strength to place one of his hands over the other on his chest while praying, but have enough strength to support his own body weight when pushing himself up from the position of prostration to the standing position.

What this paper will prove is that Malik – may Allah have mercy on him – only prayed that way, because it is what he saw there to be stronger evidence for, in addition to it being supported by sound traditions related about the Prophet – may Allah bless him and grant him peace. It will also be shown that Malik was not alone in this regard, and that many of the well-known scholars from the Tabi’in also prayed that way. Then, we will bring out in the end that such a prayer is legally valid in all of the schools of Sunni law, and that ones prayer is not invalidated if one were to do so.

What people must understand about evidence is that it is not restricted to Qur’an and Sunnah, nor has it ever been restricted to them. Consensus (Al-Ijma’) is also proof. Legal Analogy (Al-Qiyas) is another proof. There are also things like the Pre-Qur’anic sacred legislation that hasn’t been abrogated (Shar’ man qublana), and the statements and actions of the Sahabah (qawl and ‘amal al-Sahabah). There are also others that we chose not to mention, since this is not the place for such a discussion.

Were we to limit evidence to merely the Qur’an and Sunnah of the Prophet – may Allah bless and grant him peace – a great many things that we deem to be forbidden or permissible today would not be able to be supported or justified.

The reason for writing this paper is so that the author and others will no longer have to go into great detail repeatedly in explaining and justifying this issue. The aim of this explanation is not to appease or convince those opposed to this practice. Rather, it is to console and put at ease those who do it. This way, if one desires to know the facts, it would be as simple as taking recourse to the current paper, and those like it wherever they exist. We ask Allah to benefit all by it. Amin.

I. The Position of Malik (may Allah me pleased with him)

Ibn Al-Qasim says in Al-Mudawwanah : (“…Malik said about placing the right hand over the left during Salat. He said: (“I don’t know (of) that in the obligatory (prayer).” And he used to dislike it. “However, in voluntary prayers (nawafil), when the standing is extended, there is no harm in that (for one to) aid himself by it.”…).

Malik’s statement, “I don’t know of that in the obligatory prayer”, seems to point to a clear reality to anyone who is acquainted with his method of deducing legal rulings. That reality is that, his statement indicates that he doesn’t know of any conclusive evidence that would be strong enough to consider placing the right hand over the left on the chest a sunnah act of the obligatory prayer. The statement also indicates that the main reason why he disliked it was that people folded their hands on their chests as a means of holding themselves up in prayer. That wouldn’t be necessary, since it is disliked for Imams to make the standings too lengthy during obligatory prayers. As for the voluntary prayers, he didn’t dislike it then, due to the fact that much of what is not permissible in obligatory prayers is permissible in voluntary prayers. Now, where does the argument of the claimant stand in light of this conclusive evidence?

II. Evidence from Hadith

As for the hadiths that indicate it, let us first start with the hadith of Abu Hamid Al-Sa’idi, because of its complete soundness and clear unequivocal indication of the Prophet praying with his hands by his sides. Ibn Hajar says in Fath al-Bari: “Al-Bukhari, Abu Dawud, Al-Tirmidhi, Ahmad, and Ibn Khuzaimah reported it. “

And what follows is the version of Abu Dawud due to the addition that contains clear indication of the dropping of the hands by the sides (irsal/sadl).

Its wording is: “Ahmad related to us – Abu ‘Asim Al-Dahak ibn Makhlad related to us (transfer); Musaddad related to us – Yahya related to us.”

And the verson of Ahmad reads: Abd Al-Hamid informed us – meaning Ibn Ja’far – (he said) Muhammad ibn ‘Amr ibn ‘Ata informed me. He said, “I heard Abu Hamid Al-Sa’idi say while in the company of ten of the companions of the Messenger of Allah – may Allah bless and grant him peace: “I am the most knowledgeable of you of the prayer of the Messenger of Allah – may Allah bless him and grant him peace.” They said, “How (so)? For by Allah, you were neither the one who spent the most time with him, nor the oldest of us to him in companionship.” He said, “True indeed.” They said, “Show (us).” He said, “Whenever the Messenger of Allah – may Allah bless and grant him peace – would stand up to pray he would raise his hands until they were parallel with his shoulders, then say ‘Allahu Akbar’ until each bone became settled in its place straightly. Then, he would recite…”

And the natural place of the hands/arms of a person is at his/her sides, just as it could not be said that a person’s arms are straight if they are folded on his/her chest.

Shaikh Muhktar Al-Dawdi says, “And if the Prophet – may Allah bless and grant him peace – used to pray while placing the right over the left hand the ten companions would have rebuked him (i.e. Abu Hamid) for omitting it when he said: “…until each bone became settled in its place…” since peoples’ egos are disposed to a severe eagerness to point out the mistake of one’s challenger when competing. And amongst the ten companions was Sahl ibn Sa’d – may Allah be pleased with him – who said (in another hadith): “The people were ordered to place the right hand on the left forearm during Salat.” So, it becomes clear that the order in the hadith of Sahl – may Allah be pleased with him – came from one other than the Prophet – may Allah bless and grant him peace…and Sahl’s acknowledgement – may Allah be pleased with him – of the description of the prayer which grasping the hands (al-qabd) has been omitted from is proof that the order in the aforementioned hadith is not from the Prophet – may Allah bless and grant him peace.”

As for the hadiths that mention the Prophet praying with his hands folded on his chest or under his navel, they refer to the voluntary prayers. Nawawi says: “…And about Malik is also (the report mentioning) the favorableness of placing (the hands on the chest) in the voluntary (prayers), and the (favorableness) of leaving (them by the sides) during the obligatory (prayers). And this is what his followers from Basrah gave more weight to…”

Muhammad Al-Khadr Al-Shinqiti said, “And of the hadiths indicating the leaving (of the hands at the sides) is every hadith in which the prayer of the Prophet – may Allah bless and grant him peace – is described, and where he covered in it (i.e. the hadith) the mentioning of the recommended (mustahabbat) acts of prayer without mentioning the grasping (of the hands). Because leaving (the hands hanging) is the origin as is obvious. And grasping (the hands) is an added description. So, when it is not mentioned, the condition remains upon the origin, which is dropping the hands (al-irsal). And because silence about the description (of something) at the time for giving clarification is indicative of restriction…”

So, with to regard to hadith evidence, there is more that can be mentioned, although what has already passed should be sufficient enough evidence to establish that the Prophet did in fact pray while leaving his arms at his sides.

III. Evidence from the Traditions of the Sahabah and Tabi’un

In the Musannaf of Ibn Abi Shaybah, the following can be found.

  1. Abu Bakr declared: Hushaym declared to us – on the authority of Yunus – about Al-Hasan (Al-Basari) and Ibrahim (Al-Nakha’i) that they used to release their hands (at their sides) during prayer.

  2. ‘Affan declared to us: Yazid ibn Ibrahim declared to us. He said: “I heard ‘Amr ibn Dinar say: “(Abdullah) Ibn Al-Zubayr, whenever he prayed, he used to release his hands (at his sides).”

  3. Ibn ‘Aliyyah declared to us: On the authority of Ibn ‘Awn about Ibn Sirin that he was asked about the man who holds his right hand with his left. He said: “That was merely done because of the Romans’ (influence).”

  4. ‘Umar ibn Harun declared to us: On the authority of ‘Abd Allah ibn Yazid. He said: “I never saw Ibn Al-Musayyib grasping his right hand in the prayer. He used to release them (at his sides).”

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  1. Yayha Ibn Sa’id declared to us: On the authority of ‘Abd Allah ibn Al-‘Izar. He said: “I used to accompany Sa’id ibn Jubayr. So, he saw a man praying while placing one of his hands on the other. This one on this one and this one on this one. So, he went, separated them, and then returned (to me).”

And Imam Al-Nawawi said in his Majmu’: “Layth ibn Sa’d said: “He releases them (i.e. the hands). Then, if that was too long for him (i.e. standing), he should place the right over the left.” And Awza’I said: “(One has) a choice between placing and releasing (the hands).”

Al-Khadr said, “I say (that) the statement of Al-Layth is unequivocal regarding grasping (the hands) in that it is not in his view from the Sunnah. However, it falls under the category of resting. And this is exactly the reason why Malik expressly considered it to be disliked, since it is a form of supporting (oneself). And Ibn Abi Shaybah reported Ibn Sirin as saying when he was asked about the man who holds by his right hand his left hand: “That was merely because of the Romans.””

Then Abu Dawud relates that Muhammad ibn Jahadah said about the matter of releasing the arms at ones sides: “Then, I mentioned that to Al-Hasan ibn Abi Al-Hasan, and he said: “It is the prayer of Allah’s messenger – may Allah bless and grant him peace. Whoever does it does it. And whoever abandons it abandons it.”

Al-Khadr says, “And the ‘ulama have said that Ibn Al-Zubayr took the description of prayer from Abu Bakr Al-Siddiq. Al-Khatib reports in Tarikh al-Baghdad that Ahmad ibn Hanbal – may Allah be pleased with him – said: “’Abd Al-Razzaq related to me. He said: “Verily, the people of Makkah say: “Ibn Jurayj took the description of prayer from ‘Ata. And ‘Ata took it from Ibn Al-Zubayr. And Ibn Al-Zubayr took it from Abu Bakr Al-Siddiq. And Abu Bakr took it from the Prophet – may Allah bless and grant him peace.” And this indicates that Abu Bakr used to release (his hands) in his prayer, because, Ibn Al-Zubayr took the description of prayer from him.

And Ibn ‘Abbas testified that the Salat of Ibn Al-Zubayr is the Salat of the Prophet – may Allah bless and grant him peace – in what Abu Dawud relates about Maymun Al-Makki that he saw ‘Abdullah ibn Al-Zubayr while leading them in prayer. He said afterwards, “Then, I went to Ibn ‘Abbas and said: “Verily, I have seen Ibn Al-Zubayr pray a prayer that I have never seen anyone pray.” Then I described to him this gesture, and he said: “If you’d like to look at the prayer of the Messenger of Allah – may Allah bless and grant him peace – then emulate the prayer of ‘Abdullah ibn Al-Zubayr.”

Al-Khadr says, “And what is confirmed by scholars is that Ibn Al-Zubayr used to release (his hands) in his Salat. So, it is known by the testimony of Ibn ‘Abbas that his prayer is the prayer of the Prophet – may Allah bless and grant him peace, and that he used to release (his hands) in Salat…”

And in the Musannaf of Abdur-Razzaq Al-San’ani he says, “I saw Ibn Jurayj praying while releasing his hands. And Al-Awza’I said: “Whoso pleases does it. And whoso pleases leaves it.” And it is the statement of ‘Ata.”

IV. The Position of the Majority of Scholars

Most scholars hold the view that the normative, if not permanent, practice of the Prophet – may Allah have peace upon him – was folding his arms while praying. This is the position taken by the other three schools, and is the opinion considered by many Malikis to be the position having more evidence in support of it.

However, the basis for this position is that it has been related about 18 Sahabah and 2 of the Tabi’un that the Prophet prayed with his hands folded. Nevertheless, there exists contention regarding the chain of transmission of each one of these narrations. For this reason, it is said about them that “it has been related about them”, which is a clear indication of weakness and indecisiveness. Hadith scholars know it as “the wording indicative of sickness” (sigat al-tamrid).

As for the one or two sound narrations, which are found in the collections of Al-Bukhari and Muslim, they are not clear in their indications of the Prophet praying with his hands folded. For that reason, it is not possible to unequivocally conclude that he – may Allah grant him peace – prayed with his hands folded. Rather, it is equally plausible, if not more reasonable, to conclude the opposite.

Al-Dawdi says, “As for ascribing grasping the hands (al-qabd) to the majority, if the intended (ascription) is (an ascription to) the majority of the Sahabah, then this ascription is not true by any means. Because, it (i.e. folding the hands) has not been found to be soundly established about the Prophet – may Allah grant him peace, nor one of his Rightly-Guided Successors. So, how could attributing it to the majority of the Sahabah and Tabi’un be true?

As for what Al-Tirmidhi relates from Samak ibn Harb from Qabisah ibn Hulb from his father who said: “The Messenger of Allah used to lead us, and take his left with his right.” and declared it to be Hasan, then said, “And Action is in accordance with this from the companions of the Prophet – may Allah grant him peace, the successors (tabi’in), and those after them”; There is no doubt that he (i.e. Tirmidhi) depended upon the hadith of Hulb in attributing this action, since there is a distance (in time) between him, and between the Sahabah and Tabi’un. Also because, he didn’t mention any support for that other than the hadith of Hulb. And if it (i.e. the hadith) had been Sahih, it would resolve the dispute.

However, it is from the narration of Samak and Qabisah. And it has already preceded that Samak is weak…and Qabisah is unknown (majhul). Then only Samak narrates on his authority.

And Tirmidhi’s choosing this chain from the different chains going back to the Prophet in this chapter is a proof that all chains of transmission fall in the center of ignominy.

In addition to that, it has already preceded about the Imams of the Tabi’in ( Sa’id ibn Al-Musayyab, Sa’id ibn Jubayr, and Mujahid) what points to the contrary of what Al-Tirmidhi attributed to the Sahabah and Tabi’in, while knowing that these know better the doings of the Sahabah in the matter than Al-Tirmidhi and all from his generation.

And if what is intended by “the majority” is the majority of those lesser than the Successors of the Successors (Tabi’I al-tabi’in), the ascription to them is true. The statement of Al-Nawawi in Sharh Muslim (4/114) indicates it: “The proof of the majority regarding the favorableness of placing the right on the left is the aforementioned hadith of Wail, and the hadith of Abi Hazim on the authority of Sahl.”

So, this gives the feeling that the Sahabah and Tabi’un are on the outside of this majority, because they don’t advance the aforementioned hadith of Sahl as evidence, because the one giving the order is unknown.

And if he had not been unknown, the Imams of the Salaf would not have differed regarding its ruling, also because the hadith of Wail is weakened (ma’lul) due to a break in its chain, and the weakness of one of its narrators. So, the Salaf don’t advance it as evidence…”

V. The Statements of other Scholars

Ibn Rushd says, “Scholars have differed regarding placing the hands, one of them on the other during Salat. Malik considered that makruh (disliked) during the obligatory prayer, and permitted it during the voluntary prayers.

And some people considered this action to be from the Sunan of Salat. They are the majority.

The reason for their difference is that some established traditions (of the companions and successors) have come. The description of the Prophet’s prayer – may Allah grant him peace – has been related in them. And nowhere in them was it related that he placed his right over his left.
It also has been confirmed that the people were commanded to do that (i.e. fold their hands).

The former has also been mentioned as part of the description of his prayer – may Allah bless and grant him peace – in the hadith of Abu Hamid.

And some people saw that the traditions that have been confirmed necessitated an addition upon the traditions which this (latter) addition was not related in them, and that the addition must be followed.

Others saw that the more worthy obligation was to follow the traditions that don’t contain the addition, because they are more numerous, and since this doesn’t suit the actions of prayer. Rather, they fall under the category of seeking support. Therefore, Malik permitted it in voluntary prayers, and did not permit it in the obligatory…”

Ibn ‘Abdul-Barr says, “…And placing the right of them over the left or releasing them (at the sides), all of that is a Sunnah in Salat…”

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VI. Summary and Conclusion

We know the validity of praying with our hands at our sides from the following:

  1. It was the position held by our Imam Malik, and most of the companions and Malikis historically.

  2. A number of hadiths of the Prophet indicate that he prayed that way.

  3. It was the opinion taken by the Tabi’in, the most knowledgeable of them being Sa’id ibn Al-Musayyab.

  4. It was the position of ‘Abdullah ibn Al-Zubayr who learned from Abu Bakr Al-Siddiq who learned from the Prophet himself, just as it hasn’t been confirmed that any of the other Sahabah prayed while folding their hands.

  5. None of the Imams of the other madhhabs hold it to be an obligation to pray while folding ones hands. They only consider it to be a Sunnah. As for Malik, it is permitted without dislike during voluntary prayers when the standing is long. As for the obligatory prayers, he disliked it, although dislike does not mean that something is decisively prohibited according the scholars.

  6. Some Imams hold both folding the hands as well as leaving them at ones sides to be Sunnahs that have been both related about the Prophet – may Allah grant him peace.

In the end, I’d like to say that it would be much more beneficial for those seeking to sow discord through this matter to address some of our more pressing issues like the divorce rate in the Muslim community. Or things like, trying to help solve the problems of Muslims suffering from substance abuse and alcohol problems. Instead of policing peoples’ prayer when they’re not doing anything wrong, they should go looking for things, which are truly haram and try to find the proper Islamic solutions for them.

Was Salaam

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I dont believe the statue story was behind the Prophet praying with his hands on his sides.
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I can not pass any judgement about this story right now. I would need to search for it first.
But there have been many people who believed in this story, like Allama Iqbal:

"agarchay bot hein jama'at ki aasteenon mein
mujhe he hukm e azaan La Ilaha Illallah"

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I can not pass any judgement about this story right now. I would need to search for it first.
But there have been many people who believed in this story, like Allama Iqbal:

"agarchay bot hein jama'at ki aasteenon mein
mujhe he hukm e azaan La Ilaha Illallah"

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:) Mr Prince, this sher of Iqbal means something else. Iqbal is not talking about those statues.

It would have been great if you had explained what you mean.

Iqbal uses a "tashbeeh" (resemblance) here. He says that Muslims are depending on others instead of relying on Allah. It is as if they have statues up their sleeves during namaz.
The incidence Iqbal points to is the one I cited above.