Male Domination of Philosphy

Hello Gentlemen…and ladies (?)

Proud to present my debut thread in the Philosophy and Spirituality forum and what better way to start than by questioning and hopefully challenging the status quo. In that case, it’s the male domination of philosophy as a discipline. I am not much of a philosopher but I am aware that historically, all printed philosophical work has been produced by men. I am also aware of that fact Philosophy is one of the oldest subjects studied, and for much of it’s history, women were not allowed to participate in formal higher education. They were systematically prohibited to take part in intellectual debates and show case their brainiac talents, hence for that reason, very few women who entered the field in 21st Century did so without any role models and that could be a huge disadvantage.

The point of this thread is basically to inquire and investigate that why in this day and age, women have failed to overcome the ‘aristocracy of sex’ in philosophy while they look to dominate humanities, science, politics and various other subjects. What could be the possible reasons for lack of female presence in philosophy: could it be the age old reason that philosophy requires reasoning, and women are irrational or is it because it’s hard to take a woman seriously? Perhaps it’s got something to do with the scientific notion that both men and women think differently and due to that perhaps male ways of thinking is more suited to philosophy (if that’s the case, lets define that desired male way of thinking) or is it the case of women lacking the confidence and combative debating style that you often need to break down philosophical arguments?

In your view, what would you see as potential reasons and explanations behind lack of female presence in philosophy? Do you have any favorite female philosophers? Ever had a deeply interesting and long philosophical debate with a woman?

Discuss.

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A woman would like her bedroom designed with flowers.
A man would like his bedroom designed with sporty stuff.
Same analogy can be true for other fields of life. I am a programmer and there are more than two hundreds programmers in my company plus I know many other programmers outside my organization. But, i have never come across to a female programmer. There might be a few in programming, but have never seen in Pakistan, at least.
It has to do with nature of construct of men and women.
Religiously speaking, men and women are equal but not identical.

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I know a 'woman' who's nick is philosophy.

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Hmm...that's actually a very interesting question, Jolie. I took an undergrad philosophy class and yet strangely I never thought about the absence of women in this field until you brought it up.

I am just going to venture some guesses or thoughts that came to mind and they may be totally wrong or even bogus. I haven't thought about the subject deeply; so again they're just guesses.

Could one reason perhaps be that in the days of yore....women were kept away from many professions let alone becoming philosophers? Think about sayings like "Women should be seen and not heard." I watched a documentary that dealt with the way women were perceived in Europe during the Medieval times and they were seen as not only inferior in intellect and abilities but also as evil and sinful.....so imagine a woman venturing theories about religion during the time...it would probably create a ruckus. Perhaps an analytical and very vocal woman was deemed to be not docile enough to make "good" wife. I wouldn't be surprised if some of the male philosophers received criticism or strong opposition for their theories on matters like religion from the churches, etc. Maybe women didn't think they could handle such opposition? This reminds me of how some people (esp in our culture) don't feel comfortable with their daughters/sisters/wives standing in the witness box in a court because it can get rough and ugly.

Op, maybe women didn't become philosophers because they felt they had less knowledge about politics/political theories/sciences than men did. Men went out to work, to explore new lands, fight battles etc. So their increased interactions with the outside world....allowed men to "question" and "challenge" and "assess" the ways of the world...all of which require much critical thinking. And experiences like exploring lands, fighting battles, etc....are very profound....much more profound than the sewing, cooking, and domestic arts...which was the predominant activity and focus of women. This greater interaction with the outside world not only led to philosophical questions...but also questions like ...how to over longer distances on sea and land in shorter time.....how to produce more work with less energy.....questions which led to technological inventions. Men also far exceed women when it comes to inventions.

Or maybe women prefer to translate their "philosophies" into social actions as opposed to just coming up with theories. Many of us are philosophers in the sense that we ponder about life and human nature etc etc. Maybe women prefer to use such pondering to "help" others rather than just state theories. Women are "nurturers"...so maybe they prefer to translate their philosophies into counseling, social work, etc etc

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So glad to have another female voice in this thread. Thank you very much for your detailed reply, RV. I was so close to picking Philosophy as an A Level but for some reason, I decided to go with Psychology.

The issue that intrigues me the most is how women in 21st century have failed to get a breakthrough in Philosophy as an academic subject. When the education barrier was lifted in the wake of twentieth century, women tried to get into every field possible, but somehow they didn't think about leaving their mark in Philosophy. It would be very interesting to see how women can offer fresh perspective and different interpretation to some of popular theories from their male counterparts, written in a time when their existence wasn't fully appreciated let alone their views.

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Well, that's stereotyping, isn't it?

What would be that different 'nature of construct' in both genders when it comes to explaining Philosophy?

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Hmmm. Have women left much of a mark in the other fields especially the sciences? Has philosophy seen a substantial rise even from males? If it has seen fewer men over the years as well, I wonder if salary is a factor.

Another question that I'm wondering about is if women feel a greater emotional need to feel certain about life's questions and mysteries as opposed to treating them as theories.

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The consensus among resident philosophers is women make great sammich.

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^But philosophers on a global scale will argue that men have outdone the women in even the culinary arts. Wasn't the sammich invented by a man in the first place? :p

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Women have contributed to the world of philosophy far more than we can fathom; for every philosopher, there needed to be a woman who screwed up with his mind enough to turn him into one.

Until the day men can do the same to us, we're never going to be known for it.

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If Morality and Religion can be considered a very important part of philosophy and of life then Women are far more into Philosophy than Men are!

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So kinda like the quotation that love turns a man into a poet? Only you’re saying that women turn them into Devdas. :hehe:

What just came to mind is that song from Glee, “I broke the windows out your car.” It’s said that men prefer actions while women prefer words. Seems the reverse in this case. They resort to words and introspection or liquor or a hooker…while we key the car, flatten the tires, and take them to the cleaners. We win!! Go women!!!

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Women are making significant contribution in Sciences. Their presence is clearly visible, if it's not overwhelming.

I'm not advocating commercialisation of Philosophy as a discipline nor assessing any material advantages associated with it. What I'm really trying to highlight this that why Philosophy as subject as has failed to overcome the inherent sexism from within. Unlike Sciences, Arts, Humanities and Technology, Philosophy remains unabashedly male dominated and consciously so. Is it because in order to attract more female thinkers and make the studying of discipline a truly civilized and nurturing experience, Philosophy as a practice will have to give up on belligerent style debates, combative discourse and intellect intimidation which presumably is one of the many factors that prevent female thinkers from actively joining the field.

In my view, Philosophy is one subject where you are strictly required to develop a certain type of character, a persona of some kind which is critical, original, imaginative, independent, non conforming and ever so persuasive and consistent. These would be classified as signs of a good philosophical thinker, since we have very few female students and thinkers in Philosophy, does that in any way reinforce the stereotypical gender debate which suggest that perhaps women lack the confidence and assertiveness to become successful in Philosophy? That's the way I'm assessing the question.

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Jolie, attempting to make philosophy more civilized ...I can understand. But how do you make it nurturing? If it's nurturing that women are more drawn to, then there are careers like nursing, teaching, social services. Do women prefer to put forth their personal philosophies in action...to translate them into something more concrete that improves society as opposed to merely publishing theories?

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Nurturing in a sense the way subject is taught and practiced. There is a constant debate or criticism rather in the British Philosophical field, that female students often feel discriminated by the male academics. You often read about women complaining about their views being intentionally overlooked and presence undermined in debates and the academics and peers often adopting an overly combative approach to challenge their ideas.

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^Haven't you noticed the same on GS? There are certain forums where Guppans rarely participate and if so, the posts are based more on emotions than objectivity and being backed by facts/evidence as opposed to anecdotes. So, difference in debating style of genders?

Great topic. Keeping an eye on this.

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Peace Jolie

Well I have known a female programmer … databases actually

My favourite contemporary philosopher is a woman - her name is Marianne Talbot - watch this

I can’t say why there is gender imbalance in philosophy - it may be deeply rooted in our physiological make-up … I can say that there are differences in approach that I have seen between male lecturers in philosophy and female lecturers. Men tend to be more inventive and women tend to be more textbook in delivery - but where men will bend backwards to understand other opinions women tend to make cleaner breaks with what they agree with and what they disagree with.

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Is it a point that men and women are equal naturally, in all aspects of life?