Malcolm Speed and hearing scheduled for September 27 and 28 [Merged]

The Oval hearing scheduled for September 27 and 28](http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/ci/content/current/story/258884.html)

The hearing over the alleged ball tampering incident that led to the forfeiture of the fourth Test between England and Pakistan Test at The Oval will take place on September 27 and 28. Malcolm Speed, chief executive of the International Cricket Council, announced this in Mumbai on Thursday at a function to launch the Champions Trophy.

Speed, who had earlier addressed a similar function in New Delhi, said that Ranjan Madugalle would be able to chair the hearing at the end of the month. He also clarified that it was not entirely accurate to say that Pakistan would be cleared of charges of tampering simply because there was no evidence on videotape. “If video evidence was the only criteria, taking the analogy of crime, we would not be able to prove a lot of murders and half the jails would be empty,” said Speed. **“I cannot say much, except that there are other forms of evidence, and all will unfold at the hearing.” **

When pressed to explain what he meant by other forms of evidence, Speed said, “There is the ball, [the accounts of] other people who were present, and there’s the umpires’ version, which is the most important.” This means that the testimony of Darrell Hair, the man in the centre of all the controversy, and Billy Doctrove, his colleague, could prove crucial should there be no evidence on tape. **Mike Procter, the match referee, will also be a key player in the proceedings. **

However, Procter has not exactly covered himself with glory for the manner in which he handled the events that unfolded, and Speed himself made this point. “The whole issue has gotten out of hand a bit,” he said. “It should have been dealt with then and there by the match referee.”

The pre-launch function for the Champions Trophy, due to be played in India next month, was held at the Cricket Club of India and was attended by several functionaries of the Board of Control for Cricket in India including Niranjan Shah, the board secretary, and Ratnakar Shetty, an executive secretary of the board. Milind Rege and Suru Nayak, former Mumbai cricketers, were also present.

Re: The Oval hearing scheduled for September 27 and 28

i’m sure & hoping] inzi will get the BOOT [for 2-3 ODI games]…:yahoo: which means he won’t be playing in ICCCT…:shoaby: which means no ICCCT for pak…AGAIN…:yahoo:

Lack of video evidence will not bail Pakistan out … Speed !

The Oval hearing scheduled for September 27 and 28](http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/ci/content/current/story/258884.html)

Anand Vasu in Mumbai

September 7, 2006

The hearing over the alleged ball tampering incident that led to the forfeiture of the fourth Test between England and Pakistan Test at The Oval will take place on September 27 and 28. Malcolm Speed, chief executive of the International Cricket Council, announced this in Mumbai on Thursday at a function to launch the Champions Trophy.

Speed, who had earlier addressed a similar function in New Delhi, said that Ranjan Madugalle would be able to chair the hearing at the end of the month. **He also clarified that it was not entirely accurate to say that Pakistan would be cleared of charges of tampering simply because there was no evidence on videotape. “If video evidence was the only criteria, taking the analogy of crime, we would not be able to prove a lot of murders and half the jails would be empty,” said Speed. “I cannot say much, except that there are other forms of evidence, and all will unfold at the hearing.”

When pressed to explain what he meant by other forms of evidence, Speed said, “There is the ball, [the accounts of] other people who were present, and there’s the umpires’ version, which is the most important.” This means that the testimony of Darrell Hair, the man in the centre of all the controversy, and Billy Doctrove, his colleague, could prove crucial should there be no evidence on tape. Mike Procter, the match referee, will also be a key player in the proceedings.**

However, Procter has not exactly covered himself with glory for the manner in which he handled the events that unfolded, and Speed himself made this point. “The whole issue has gotten out of hand a bit,” he said. “It should have been dealt with then and there by the match referee.”

The pre-launch function for the Champions Trophy, due to be played in India next month, was held at the Cricket Club of India and was attended by several functionaries of the Board of Control for Cricket in India including Niranjan Shah, the board secretary, and Ratnakar Shetty, an executive secretary of the board. Milind Rege and Suru Nayak, former Mumbai cricketers, were also present.

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This gives the idea of things to come.

This is SO VERY AMAIZING that Speed is so quick to ask PCB and INZI to SHUTP UP if they speak on the issue and he himself is sort of giving the GUIDELINES to the JUDGE on the case as what can be accepted as evidence and what not. Is there anyone who can ask him to shut up and dont fk-up the matters already fk-ed-up and wait for the hearing and leave everything to the judge who he nominated himself.

Re: Lack of video evidence will not bail Pakistan out … Speed !

:yahoo:
:shoaby:

Re: Lack of video evidence will not bail Pakistan out … Speed !

So since he is the head of ICC is there any one to tell him to **** up …I mean shut up…:mad: :naraz:

Re: The Oval hearing scheduled for September 27 and 28

^^ why don’t you take your anti-pak bigotory to some where else…other wise one of us will kick you where you will see the star and moons that you believe in …:smilestar: :jhanda:

Re: The Oval hearing scheduled for September 27 and 28

^
lagi aag…:shoaby:

Re: The Oval hearing scheduled for September 27 and 28

^^ aag tau tum nay lagaee heay magar dhektain hain keh khuwab kis keh jaltay hain tum jeson keh ya kisee aur keh.:mad2:..:bizz:

Re: Lack of video evidence will not bail Pakistan out ..... Speed !

Malcolm Speed is a much bigger buffoon than I ever gave him credit for. I mean, what kind of nonsensical analogies does he bring to the cricketing world? Even a retard won't compare actions on a cricket field, covered by no less than 26 cameras, to a murder. Speed is a disgrace to cricketing world.

Re: Malcolm Speed and hearing scheduled for September 27 and 28 [Merged]

^^ Yep...this is getting completely out of control ....he is not even hiding that he's a racist b*d anymore..
I think we should just tell ICC that they can do what ever they want but we will sue Speed in another court for sure... the son of **
is making me so mad...

Re: Malcolm Speed and hearing scheduled for September 27 and 28 [Merged]

Speed's statement is so much controversial. Its gonna be really tough for Inzi to get out of it.
There is one thing though - PK is an imp team. Its not easy for ICC to ban Inzi. They know that the team can be rebellious. And WC is coming so they might consider these things too. what if Pakistan decides not to play in champion's trophy and WC.

Re: Malcolm Speed and hearing scheduled for September 27 and 28 [Merged]

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If video evidence was the only criteria, taking the analogy of crime, we would not be able to prove a lot of murders and half the jails would be empty," said Speed. "I cannot say much, except that there are other forms of evidence, and all will unfold at the hearing."

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To make his crime analogy better, how many courts of law would convict someone of murder when there were 26 cameras at the scene of the crime and none saw any murder happen?

Re: Malcolm Speed and hearing scheduled for September 27 and 28 [Merged]

^ Not to mention that the dead body in this murder is a vodoo doll on which the neighborhood kids were throwing pins all day in bright sun shine. Jeez Louise!!

Re: Malcolm Speed and hearing scheduled for September 27 and 28 [Merged]

Some one, please, email the link of this thread to ICC, PCB, ECB, Malcolm Speed, Darell Hair, hearing panel, Mike Proctor and Bob Woolmer :rotfl:

Re: Malcolm Speed and hearing scheduled for September 27 and 28 [Merged]

^^ you find the email address and I will send it ....

Re: Malcolm Speed and hearing scheduled for September 27 and 28 [Merged]

contact ICC if anyone is interested. You can even make a phone call:D

http://www.icc-cricket.com/icc/contact-us.html

Re: Malcolm Speed and hearing scheduled for September 27 and 28 [Merged]

atleast send it to cricinfo

Re: Malcolm Speed and hearing scheduled for September 27 and 28 [Merged]

Hey I just emailed ICC the link to this thread...
I disguised my name to sound "gora" so that they might in a million chance actually read it...
I feel better... not really though....

Re: Malcolm Speed and hearing scheduled for September 27 and 28 [Merged]

Just emailed this to ICC and Cricinfo:

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This is SO VERY AMAIZING that Speed is so quick to ask PCB and INZI to SHUTP UP if they speak on the issue and he himself is sort of giving the GUIDELINES to the JUDGE on the case as what can be accepted as evidence and what not. Is there anyone who can ask him to shut up and wait for the hearing and leave everything to the judge who he nominated himself? Why is that HE can speak on the matter (and talk about evidence and non-evidence) and no other party can?

In a recent interview (as recent as yesterday) Speed said "If video evidence was the only criteria, taking the analogy of crime, we would not be able to prove a lot of murders and half the jails would be empty," (cricinfo.com). Can Mr.Speed answer that how many courts of law would convict someone of murder when there were 26 cameras at the scene of the crime and none saw any murder happen?

As he is asking Hair, PCB and Inzi not to speak on the matter before hearing, he should not open his mouth too rather than telling everyone (including Judge), what can be counted as evidence and what can be not.

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