Re: Malala's father Ziauddin Yusufzai named special UN advisor on education!
^ I agree and there's nothing called taleban.
Re: Malala's father Ziauddin Yusufzai named special UN advisor on education!
^ I agree and there's nothing called taleban.
Re: Malala's father Ziauddin Yusufzai named special UN advisor on education!
How to deal with terrorists/TTP, and where to appoint Malalas father are 2 different questions. Just because someone disagrees with the princely treatment Malala and family are getting doesnt mean they support the terrorists.
The fact that Malala got a sweet deal is not a secret any more. Her treatment was perfectly possible in Pakistan, but a politically aligned decision was made to send her to the UK for treatment. Political decision was made to pay for all her expenses, while people in Pakistan dont even have doctors available in hospitals. Political decision was made to send her family there as well, and now her father has been appointed to a Grade 19 job as a diplomat in a flash. The govt is clutching at cheap straws....and from my perspective, Malala's father should have been graceful enough to deny this post....but the fact that they have been accepting everything 'shamelessly' wreaks of something else behind the scenes.
You have to understand that Malala is no longer considered as just a person. She is a symbol of hope. Under these circumstances it is important that the government does what is possible to show that it really cares. It is similar to the situation when a girl in Delhi was raped, the government decided to send her to Singapore knowing perfectly well that there was no hope. She had become a symbol of the courage and the ability to fight back.
Coming back to Malala, is it any wonder that the family has accepted everything. Would you be willing to undergo the same trauma as her and the family. I would rather have the entire family not return to Pakistan. There is every possibility that the family is targeted. Conspiracy theories cannot and will not take you anywhere.
Re: Malala's father Ziauddin Yusufzai named special UN advisor on education!
You have to understand that Malala is no longer considered as just a person. She is a symbol of hope. Under these circumstances it is important that the government does what is possible to show that it really cares. It is similar to the situation when a girl in Delhi was raped, the government decided to send her to Singapore knowing perfectly well that there was no hope. She had become a symbol of the courage and the ability to fight back. Coming back to Malala, is it any wonder that the family has accepted everything. Would you be willing to undergo the same trauma as her and the family. I would rather have the entire family not return to Pakistan. There is every possibility that the family is targeted. Conspiracy theories cannot and will not take you anywhere.
Malala is nice girl, but living in the UK, she is as much a symbol of hope to Pakistanis, as Altaf Hussain is to Karachi. The govt sent her abroad because it scored political points for them. Otherwise, Malala's treatment was very much possible in Pakistan. As a matter of fact, the most difficult part of her treatment (surgery) had already been completed in Pakistan before she was sent abroad. I never quite understood the purpose of flying her out after she was out of danger.
As for security, the govt has thousands of police wallahs at their disposal, and they could have spared a few of those to provide security to her. Symbols of hope are people like Mukhtaran Mai, who, despite political and feudal pressure, lives on respectably, continues to run her school despite threats, and lives in Pakistan.....otherwise, we all know how many opportunities she has had to leave Pakistan.
A lot of people are affected by terrorism and crime on a daily basis, and in far worse ways than Malala. That does not demean Malala's injury, but the point is, that instead of spending millions of dollars on a single girl, whose treatment could have been done in Pakistan for a fraction of the cost, it would be more prudent to spend those millions on providing even the most basic medical care to a larger segment of the public in Pakistan. And anyway, my point was about granting her father a job he clearly did not deserve. People spend their entire lives working hard to be eligible for foreign service.
Re: Malala’s father Ziauddin Yusufzai named special UN advisor on education!
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Malala is nice girl, but living in the UK, she is as much a symbol of hope to Pakistanis, as Altaf Hussain is to Karachi. The govt sent her abroad because it scored political points for them. Otherwise, Malala's treatment was very much possible in Pakistan. As a matter of fact, the most difficult part of her treatment (surgery) had already been completed in Pakistan before she was sent abroad. I never quite understood the purpose of flying her out after she was out of danger.
As for security, the govt has thousands of police wallahs at their disposal, and they could have spared a few of those to provide security to her. Symbols of hope are people like Mukhtaran Mai, who, despite political and feudal pressure, lives on respectably, continues to run her school despite threats, and lives in Pakistan.....otherwise, we all know how many opportunities she has had to leave Pakistan.
A lot of people are affected by terrorism and crime on a daily basis, and in far worse ways than Malala. That does not demean Malala's injury, but the point is, that instead of spending millions of dollars on a single girl, whose treatment could have been done in Pakistan for a fraction of the cost, it would be more prudent to spend those millions on providing even the most basic medical care to a larger segment of the public in Pakistan. And anyway, my point was about granting her father a job he clearly did not deserve. People spend their entire lives working hard to be eligible for foreign service.
It is a sad fact of life that people tend to forget the trauma suffered for a cause. It is very easy to attribute motives and question things. It is difficult to be in their shoes. There might be everyday heroes but the Taliban chose to target Malala. That itself shows how popular she was and the kind of impact that she was making.
Unless somebody is very qualified and knows about the medical circumstances, one cannot judge if it was really required to send her to London. I assume you do and know for a fact that it was not required to send her to London. There was this every possibility that Taliban would attack her again. It shows the world that the government was concerned and was doing everything required to protect her.
Also for her father accepting the job. Who are we to judge if he really deserved it or now. He was able to channelize the energy of the entire nation towards a worthy cause which many people would not be able to do working for their entire lives.
Re: Malala’s father Ziauddin Yusufzai named special UN advisor on education!
You are meaning to say that Taliban might understand the Islamic arguments and allowed education for girls.
Where do you come up with such arguments. If Taliban understood what Islam really was, there would not have been this unnecessary bloodshed.
Re: Malala's father Ziauddin Yusufzai named special UN advisor on education!
Unless somebody is very qualified and knows about the medical circumstances, one cannot judge if it was really required to send her to London. I assume you do and know for a fact that it was not required to send her to London. There was this every possibility that Taliban would attack her again. It shows the world that the government was concerned and was doing everything required to protect her. Also for her father accepting the job. Who are we to judge if he really deserved it or now. He was able to channelize the energy of the entire nation towards a worthy cause which many people would not be able to do working for their entire lives.
Im not a doctor, but while she was at the military hospital in Rawalpindi, the doctors specifically said that the surgery would be the hardest part..and if she made through that, she would be ok. And she did. The day she was flown to UK, I heard several prominent doctors from Pakistan on BBC radio being interviewed, and many of them expressed surprise at why she was sent abroad when her treatment was easily possible in Pakistan. They too questioned the political motives.
The govt sent her abroad because she was at risk from the Taliban. Thanks to random terrorism, the entire country is at risk. So should the govt start sending everyone abroad? This is like our own govt is facilitating political asylum application for its citizens. Essentially, the govt is saying that we are so hapless that we cannot even provide protection to our citizens.
Finally, there is a process for getting into federal service. If people are going to be awarded such jobs based on the number of people shot in their family, then every family from Karachi should have at least 1 family member working as a diplomat in grade 19.
Re: Malala's father Ziauddin Yusufzai named special UN advisor on education!
^ So what's your point? That her father is unfit for the job, and that her treatment could have been done in Pakistan? That's all true but so what? Her family did what's best for her, and the government is doing what it can to score political points. That's how the world works. On the other hand, this may raise awareness about the plight of women's education.
What's troubling is that people have started with conspiracy theories instead of condemning the attacks. You can disagree with the attention that the family is receiving and still condemn the Taliban. When I see people doing the former and making excuses the for the latter it pisses me off.
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Peace StormRaiser
No, she went political when her and her father’s stance should have remained about education … Now you can see their real agenda coming through … Education was a ruse for him to pursue his political career. My point was that she needn’t had to make herself a target … They obviously didn’t attack her because of her stance on education … If they did attack her and we believe the media about it then the reason why they attacked her is because she was openly calling for them to be taken out by force. She was inciting against them and she knew the risks … Everyone knew the risks.
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You conveniently ignored my question and started rambling about her father's stand on education. Do you seriously think that the father would endanger the life of his child for narrow political gains. What is the background of this man. Was he a failed politician who had to stoop so low as to endanger his child to be in politics. You need to get the facts straight. It helps. I wonder, if you believe that it was the Taliban who attacked her..." If they did attack her and we believe the media about it"
She knew the risks, I agree but did she have a choice. You have to understand that it is because of her, the focus is back on girls' education. It is important that people stop being apologists for people who so do not understand religion.
Re: Malala’s father Ziauddin Yusufzai named special UN advisor on education!
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Re: Malala's father Ziauddin Yusufzai named special UN advisor on education!
Malala is nice girl, but living in the UK, she is as much a symbol of hope to Pakistanis, as Altaf Hussain is to Karachi. The govt sent her abroad because it scored political points for them. Otherwise, Malala's treatment was very much possible in Pakistan. As a matter of fact, the most difficult part of her treatment (surgery) had already been completed in Pakistan before she was sent abroad. I never quite understood the purpose of flying her out after she was out of danger.
As for security, the govt has thousands of police wallahs at their disposal, and they could have spared a few of those to provide security to her. Symbols of hope are people like Mukhtaran Mai, who, despite political and feudal pressure, lives on respectably, continues to run her school despite threats, and lives in Pakistan.....otherwise, we all know how many opportunities she has had to leave Pakistan.
A lot of people are affected by terrorism and crime on a daily basis, and in far worse ways than Malala. That does not demean Malala's injury, but the point is, that instead of spending millions of dollars on a single girl, whose treatment could have been done in Pakistan for a fraction of the cost, it would be more prudent to spend those millions on providing even the most basic medical care to a larger segment of the public in Pakistan. And anyway, my point was about granting her father a job he clearly did not deserve. People spend their entire lives working hard to be eligible for foreign service.
Perhaps it would be a good idea to NOT make symbols of children and put their lives in danger. For her own safety perhaps, she should remain in the UK. Better a living breathing person then a dead symbol.
However, if she were to return, I would be highly impressed.
Re: Malala's father Ziauddin Yusufzai named special UN advisor on education!
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You conveniently ignored my question and started rambling about her father's stand on education. Do you seriously think that the father would endanger the life of his child for narrow political gains. What is the background of this man. Was he a failed politician who had to stoop so low as to endanger his child to be in politics. You need to get the facts straight. It helps. I wonder, if you believe that it was the Taliban who attacked her..." If they did attack her and we believe the media about it" She knew the risks, I agree but did she have a choice. You have to understand that it is because of her, the focus is back on girls' education. It is important that people stop being apologists for people who so do not understand religion.
Peace StormRaiser
Yes, you see that is exactly what is being said here ... But it is not because of her really ... She has been campaigning for girls education for a long time ... she has been managing to get girls their education for a long time ... the government and media were relatively quiet when the schools were bombed ... It was and never has been about education ... nor sir ... not for the West and not for the media machine ... It was because of her "attack" that has led to the focus to come back on education for girls ... where has the focus been taken from? It has been taken away from the drone strikes ... So on one hand ... you are giving credit to a girl for bringing focus on to education ... but in reality she didn't bring that focus ... it was her attacker that brought that focus on girls education ... and secondly where has it been taken away from? Drone strikes ...
Trust me, any situation in any moral system - education focus should not replace the focus that was previously on drones strikes ... the need for a good and fair education system is secondary to the rights of people to live in safety.
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Peace
Malala's cause was education at one stage, her father has never hidden from the fact that he is an open opponent of theirs ... He never wished his daughter to be a scholar nor a teacher ... He wanted his daughter to be a politician ... With all this campaign speak and Malala becoming a leader in the campaign for girls education ... She should at least complete her own education first.
If education was the only important thing on their mind they would have appealed to the Taliban for that right through honouring the Taliban leadership, and requesting it from them ... Presenting them with Islamic arguments for it ... Instead they chose to open their doors initially to Western media and in turn the Western powers ... when it comes to the point where people like Gordon Brown and CENTCOM ... Speak in honour of her ... It is no longer us being suspicious of her rather ... The attention she gets from such people is what raise an eyebrow or three.
I agree,
Re: Malala’s father Ziauddin Yusufzai named special UN advisor on education!
. Who are talibans,are they the same,or somebody else trying to use their name to destablelize Pakistan,after the pics we’ve seen of terrorists in Peshawar! Talibans were fighting in Afghanistan against America,now they’ve started targeting pakistan???killing innocent !! Indian weapons are found !bind boggling …
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The biggest opponent of drone strikes was an ‘infidel’ Imran khan. When Imran was putting his and his supporters lives in danger for highlighting the issue TTP categorically declared that they didn’t need his help. A few days after his waziristan yatra they attacked malala which infact proved to be a shot in Imran khans foot. Now even he is quiet.
TTP spokesman denies Imran Khan death threat | Pakistan | DAWN.COM
Malala's father Ziauddin Yusufzai named special UN advisor on education!
The only reason Malala is being raised a hero is because it fits the wests political agenda and scores them more points against the taliban.
The support for troops in afghanistan is waning, and their morale is pretty low, so this story came just about the right time.
This is nothing about afghani human rights or education from the western political point of view. They are simply being used as pawns, and will be dumped when it suits them.
That being said; malalas father also used the opportunity to simply protect the family, as any father would.
Returning home when you are a direct target is simply foolish as well as suicidal. Sure she can return to pakistan, but she cant do much if shes dead or restricted in her choices, due to security.
But, the father did say initially that they would be returning to pak soon after treatment, so who knows, perhaps they only plan on staying for the 5 years..?
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Peace Ali_Syed
That goes against what Imran Khan said himself about this issue … He was planning to go and find out what he can do - he still says that he knows the Qabaili people well … I choose to believe him … Besides this attack on Malala served the purpose of keeping the military campaign sustained … Be honest with yourself and you will see that I am right.
Re: Malala's father Ziauddin Yusufzai named special UN advisor on education!
The only reason Malala is being raised a hero is because it fits the wests political agenda and scores them more points against the taliban.
The support for troops in afghanistan is waning, and their morale is pretty low, so this story came just about the right time.
This is nothing about afghani human rights or education from the western political point of view. They are simply being used as pawns, and will be dumped when it suits them.
That being said; malalas father also used the opportunity to simply protect the family, as any father would.
Returning home when you are a direct target is simply foolish as well as suicidal. Sure she can return to pakistan, but she cant do much if shes dead or restricted in her choices, due to security.
But, the father did say initially that they would be returning to pak soon after treatment, so who knows, perhaps they only plan on staying for the 5 years..?
I don't think Malala should come back to Pakistan. Pakistan doesn't deserve Malala's they deserve Ehsan Ullah Ehsan's.
I am thankful to her though for highlighting swat's taleban when we were sleeping, and again when she was attacked. Their mentality came into the open as to how some people can use Quran and Hadith to justify criminality.
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Peace Ali_Syed
That goes against what Imran Khan said himself about this issue ... He was planning to go and find out what he can do - he still says that he knows the Qabaili people well ... I choose to believe him ... Besides this attack on Malala served the purpose of keeping the military campaign sustained ... Be honest with yourself and you will see that I am right.
The military campaign suits those who are fighting to establish a state within a state. If they lay down their weapons, renounce violence, recognise the constitution and seek forgiveness for their actions. I don't think anyone would have any problem in reconciling with them. But if reconciling means surrendering the country to them it's not a good idea.
By the during the 2009 Swat operation consensus of the country was to go after TTP, only Imran Khan was in the opposite camp and history has proven his stance wrong.