Making Salat and Salam on the Prophet after Athan is not HARAM as wahabies claim!!

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Making Salat and Salam on the Prophet after Athan
Bissmillah wassalla llahu ^ala Rasulillah.

Brothers and sisters in Islam, Assalamu ^alaykum

Allah said in Al Qur’an which means: [Allah and his angles make salat and salam onto the Prophet, o you who believed Make salat and Salam onto him]

Thereafter,

know that making Salat on the Prophet (To say May Allah’s peace and blessings be onto the Prophet) after the Athan is a good innovation and not unlawful rather rewardable. What Mu’athins do from making salat and salam after the athan is from the good innovations and it is conducted from the religion as the Prophet Sallallhu ^Alayhi wassallam said in the Hadith related by Muslim: “If you hear Al Mu’athin say as he says than make salat on me” and this is enough to prove that it’s permissible for the Mu’athins to make salat and salam on the Prophet after the athan.
Salat on the Prophet and salam has been initiated by the Mu’athins after every athan at the time of Sultan Haji bin al-Ashraf Sha^ban, Imam As-Suyutiyy said in his book “Al Wasa’il Ila Musamarat Al ‘Awa’il” page 9: “Salat and salam on the Prophet after the athan was initiated in the white minaret at the time of As-Sultan Haji bin Al Ashraf Sha^ban bin Husain bin an-Nasir bin al-Mansoor Qalawoon by the command of Al Muhtassib Najm Ad-Deen at-Tanbady and that was on Sha^ban of 791 H, and before that, at the time of Sultan Salahud-Deen bin Ayoub they used to make Salam on the Prophet every night before the athan of Fajr in Egypt and Sham (Lebanon, Syria, Jordan..) and that continued until the year 776 H and on it by the command of Al Muhtassib Salahud-Deen al Barlasy added: Salat and Salam onto you o Messenger of Allah (Peace and blessings onto you Messenger of Allah) than it was done after every athan year 791 H.
This matter is permissible by Ijma^ (Unanimous agreement) according to the four Mathahib. This also proves that there are good innovations and bad innovations which is the base of our topic.
And here are the sayings from the four schools in the permissibility of the Salat and Salam on the Prophet by the Mu’thins.

  • Hanafy (School) Mathhab:
    Sheik Muhammad ^Ala’ Ad-Deen Al Hiskfiy in his book “Ad-Dur Al Mukhtar” he said: “Hint: Making Salam after the athan in the month Rabi^ Al Akhir year 781 during the ^Isha’ prayer on Monday night, and on Jumu^ah, and after 10 years the ‘Salam’ was done in all prayers except Al Maghrib and in it twice, and it’s a good innovation” look in Hashiat Ibn ^Abideen 1/390. So he said that there is good innovations and in particular athan is one of them.
    The Maliky Mathhab:
    Sheikh Shams Ad-Deen Muhammad ^Urfah ad-Dasuqiy Al Maliky said in his Hashiah on As-Sahrh Al Kabeer 1/193: “And for the Salat on the Porphet after the Atahn, it’s an innovation of guidance it was first done at the time of Salahud-Deen Yousuf bin Ayoub”. And here I would like to clarify that the saying of Ad-Dasuqiyy was during the time of the victorious fighter Salahud-Deen Al Ayoubiy who freed Al Aqsa, The salat on an-Nabiy happened prior to athan Al Fajr, but when it became as it is now, done at every athan of the prayers, it was done during the time of Sultan Hajy son of Al Ashraf Sha^ban as we took it from As-Suyoutiy.

WIll CONTINUE

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The Shafi^y Mathhab (my school - which is the school of mjority of Ahlussunnah):

Al Hafith as-Sakhawiy ash-Shafi^iyy, and he is the student of Al Hafith Ibn Hajar Al ^asqalaniyy, he said in his book: Al Qawl Al Badi^ fis-Salat ^ala Al Habib Ash-Shafee^ (His book: the brilliant say on making Salat on the beloved interceder – Prophet Muhammad) page 92: “The Mu’thins have innovated the salat and salam on the messenger of Allah after the athan for the five prayers except the fajr prayer and Jumu^ah, for they forward that in it on the athan exept al Maghrib they did not do it originally due to it’s limited duration”… Until he said: “and scholars had differences on if it’s recommended or not, bad innovation or lawful, but its permissibility was proven by the saying of Allah which means: [and do the good deed] and it’s clear that making Salat and Salam on the Prophet for being a good deed knowing that the news has confirmed and encouraged on doing that as making the Du^a’ after the athan and the last third of the night and near Fajr time and the fact is that it’s a good innovation and its doer is rewarded with the his good intention” End of the saying of Shafi^iyy.

Hanbaly Mathhab(the school that wahabies claimto follow):

In the book “Muntaha Al Iradat” for Al hanabilah 1/113-114: “and it has been a good innovation for the Mu’athin and the one who hears athan to make salat on the Prophet sallallahu ^alayhi wassallam when done and to say: Allahumma Rabba Hathihee-Da^watitammah wassalatil al Qa’imah ….” End of saying.

So these sayings that are from the books of four schools prove that such a doing, making salat and salam on the Prophet is from the good innovations. For, the scholars of the four Mathahib permitted this matter after they saw it happen and they were not silent in clarifying it’s judgment according to Islam. So the four schools all agree on the permissibility on making salat and salam on an-Nabiyy after the athan and they also proved that not every innovation is a bad one, rather there is good innovations as they mentioned and bad innovations.

One might say: according to the aforementioned hadith making salat and salam is only for those who hear the mu’athin not for al Mu’athin himself!

We say what imam an-Nawawiyy said in his book Rawdat At-Talibeen 1/2.3 under the title: “description of the mu’athin and his manners”: “It’s recommended for characteristics of the mu’athin to have a good voice …” till he said “and to make salat and salam on the Prophet sallallahu ^alayhi wassallam by al mu’athin and whomever hears al athan after the athan” end of saying of Nawawiyy.

Also Imam Shams ad-Deen Ar-Ramly, whose known as the small shafi^iyy, in his book: Nihayat Al Muhtaj Ila sharh Al Minhaj” 1/422 he said: “and it’s sunnah for al-Mu’thin and listener to athan as well as stated by hadith related by ibn As-Sunniy and has been mentioned by Al-Musannaf (Meaning Imam An-Nawawiyy) in his Athkar to make salat and salam on the Prophet peace and blesings upon him” end of his saying. And the hadith indicated by Imam ar-Ramliy is the hadith that we are talking about, so ar-Ramliy used this hadith to prove that it’s permissible to make salat on the Prophet by the mu’thin which denotes that it’s a good innovation that was not done on the time of the Prophet. Al Mawlid and other innovations are similarly proved by the scholars for being good innovations, but let it be clear that bad innovations are the most.
So for those who say that every innovation is evil and says that Making salat and salam on the Prophet is unlawful needs to provide the proves for that. Brother and Sister do not look nor care for those who oppose all of these scholars and make it unlawful to make salat and salam after the athan, for, this matter is good and Muslims have accepted it for more than 600 years. We do not say that it’s obligatory but it’s a good matter it’s unlawful to deem it impermissible.

O Allah raise the rank of the Prophet and grant us his intercession.

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No site?

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Where did you get your info from?

No mention of any known books, only scholars whome I have never heard of. Interesting…could you provide some site or source…please.

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“Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?”-juvenal

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subhan Allah AhmadGee --may Allah reward you!

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whats this rubbish trying to put others down in order to prove your petty point? if u believe it one way, then just put it in. why do u feel the need to insert a mention of wahabis and what they claim, and then go on to refute it in order to make your point?

this is what plagues islam today....opportunists and politicians in disguise, trying to teach people islam

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first of all i do belive that sending darood on prophet SAW is ordered to us through quran and many hadiths..but there is no such thing as bidath ul hasna..or good inovation..islam is complete and those maulvis who have made prophet to the level of divinity claim this stuff....let me tell you one thing...in khi two years back, once we were awake during the 12 rabi ul awal, and whole night, ppl at the masjid read naats through the LOUD speaker..comon man, naats just show ur love for prophet..first you should not read the naats at night using loud speakers to wake the whole neighborhood...and naats dont earn u sawab..only duroods do..naats have no standing in islam. its the type of stuff that our desi bhais do...make the prophet SAW and saints divine and think its a part of islam..

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ThanadayMazak: well said

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Well said ThandyMazaq. Just one thing to add. Naat is poetry. When a poet writes a poem, he tends to exagerate his love for the subject. There are many naats where this has been done and that unduly elevates Rasool Allah (sallallaho alaihe wasallam). This he totally discouraged and, in fact, warned the people against. The next step is shirk.

Rabbeshrah lee sadree; wa yassirlee amree; yafqahoo qaulee.

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[quote]
Originally posted by Cute4NR:
**why do u feel the need to insert a mention of wahabis and what they claim, and then go on to refute it in order to make your point?

this is what plagues islam today....opportunists and politicians in disguise, trying to teach people islam**
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This is standard practice with those who want to introduce or justify bidat. True Islam is from Shariah. Anything not practiced by the Prophet (and his righteous caliphs) is bidat. This is what the salafis enforced, and this is what Imam ibn Taymiah preached.

Shaikh Wahab implemented it in Saudi Arabia and removed a number of bidats and differences between the Muslims. I believe he deserves a lot of credit with Allah, who knows what he has done. Those who malign him will be the losers, as it tantamounts to gheebat when you are talking ill about a man who cannot defend himself.

Rabbeshrah lee sadree; wa yassirlee amree; yafqahoo qaulee.

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naats are not part of islam? which wahabi maulvi told you that? Naats are poems in praise of The Beloved Prophet sal Allahu alayhi wa sallam. It is an historic FACT that MANY Sahabas wrote naats and recited them in front of Allah's Messenger sal Allahu alayhi wa sallam and Rasul Allah alayhisalatosalam PRAISED these naats. In fact Hazrat Hassaan ibn Thabit radhi Allah anhu was the most famous of all the Prophet's naat-khwaans and he was honoured by being allowed to stand on the minbar e Rasul during Huzoor Paak's zahiri lifetime--an honour which fell to no other SAhabi except Hazrat Abu Bakr Saddeeq (radhi Allahu anhuma). And Hazrat Ka'b was honoured by Allah's Messenger sal Allahu alayhi wa sallam by being gifted a cloak which the Prophet used to wear. Subhan Allah!

Every single scholar in history till today has written naats and people have recited them. And no one objects EXCEPT wahabis and other heretix whose hearts burn with envy when Allah's Messenger is praised in naat!

Well in the Qur'an Allah orders us to send salawat and salaam on his Habib and what else is naat? And also Allah says,l

Wa ra fa'na laka dhikrak!

about his Beloved!

We will keep on praising Allah's Messenger sal Allahu alayhi wa sallam as long as we have breath in our bodies! As that is what every Sunni has done from the time of the Sahaba till today and will do so till qayaamat and afterwards!

Zikr unka cheRiye subh o shaam
Jaan e kaafir pe qayaamat kejiye!

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Ibn Taymiyya was a heretic denounced by all the scholars in his own time including his own student Imam Shaykh ul Islam al-Dhahabi and Ibn Abdul Wahab an-Najdi, the founding father of the wahabis, is another heretic who was denounced by every noteworthy scholar in the world including his own brother Shaykh Sulayman ibn Abd al Wahab. Wahabis are only big in S.arabia and make up about 2% of the Muslims AT MOST. It is no surprise that all the terrorist organisations with muslim names like the taliban and ibn ladin follow the wahabi ideology cos that is all it can produce

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ry as dust terrorists and mullahs for whom everything outside their own narrow minds is “bida’ and haraam”. May Allah destroy them as they are a cancer within the body of Islam.

Alhamdulillah, the Beloved Nabi, Rauf ur Rahim, Rahmatulil Aalameen sal Allahu alayhi wa sallam predicted the coming of the Wahabis in the famous hadith of Najd where he prayed for Yemen and Shaam but did not pray for Najd and when asked why he (sal Allahu alayhi wa sallam) said that from there (Najd) would come a great fitna and the “Qarn ash-Shaytaan” (horn of the devil; devilish sect) and wahabism was started–and is still strongest in the najd region of arabia. And Huzoor Paak further prophecised about them saying that though they will have qur’an on their tongues Iman would not go beyond their throats! And also that they would fly out of the faith like an arrow flies out of a bow!
And he further told us that they would have shaven heads and great big beards and outwardly in appearance they would be really pious but they would go out of imaan like an arrow goes out of the bow.

And that is a perfect description of wahabis!

Because of their extremism and terrorism all of the Muslims are given a bad name!

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another thing: those who do not like "naat" which simply means praise of the Prophet sal Allahu alayhi wa sallam should also refrain from reading the kalimah because in the kalimah there is also praise [naat] of Allah's Messenger!
sal Allahu alayhi wa sallam.

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[quote]
Originally posted by ThandyMazaq:
first of all i do belive that sending darood on prophet SAW is ordered to us through quran and many hadiths..but there is no such thing as bidath ul hasna..or good inovation..islam is complete and those maulvis who have made prophet to the level of divinity claim this stuff....let me tell you one thing...in khi two years back, once we were awake during the 12 rabi ul awal, and whole night, ppl at the masjid read naats through the LOUD speaker..comon man, naats just show ur love for prophet..first you should not read the naats at night using loud speakers to wake the whole neighborhood...and naats dont earn u sawab..only duroods do..naats have no standing in islam. its the type of stuff that our desi bhais do...make the prophet SAW and saints divine and think its a part of islam..
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Bismillah wa sallallahu ala rasulillah,

For the objector, know that Islamic Judgments are not asserted by assumption, it is by acquring knowledge. And in your sayin that: there is no bid^a hasanah, you are opposing the master of teachers of Islam, and the Imam of the Bigest school from the 4 madhahibs, Imam Shafi^y may Allah be pleased with him.

Imam Shafiyy clarified that Bid^a is of 2 types, weather you like that or not. If you think you are more knowledable then Imam Shafi^iy then say what you have otherwise be silecned and accept the truth.

Not only Imam Shafi^y clarified this, But also Imam Nawawiy, Imam Ibn Hajar and many others. And Insha'llah I wil put post about this topic: Bid^ah.

Know also, that it is also affirmed in Al-Qur'an. Allah spoke about the followeres of Prophet Isa, Allah said: [Wa Rahbaniatan Ibntada^ooha, Ma Fardnaha Alayhim] which means and they - followeres of Propeht Jesus - innovated the act of being detached from worldy interests, by living in the mountains worshipping Allah the the rest of the ayah clarifies, We have not obliged it upon them.

For the brother asking about a page or a link, Brother, I Dont' get my religion from the internet, I would love to give you a link, but I would have to verify that it is all Islamicaly referenced as I have put the referenfces. If you have not heard of Imam Nawawiy, Or Ibn Hajar, Or Bayhaqiy or Even Bukhary and Muslim then we have an issue to start from scratch.

About Naat or madih or Islamic praises, who are you to say that You don't get thawab by praising Prophet Muahammad and mentioning his merits ?!! If showing the love of Prophet Muhammad is rewardable, how about excpressing it?!..

ALso, who are you to say that you should do it loud or not loud, and that you are not rewarded for it, only if you make darood you are rewardable?!!

Imam Ibn hajar, reported that the Prophet ordered ^Aishah to send servants to chant Islamic praises for a wedding of Al-Ansar, and he told: "O ^Aishah, have you sent a servant to beat on the tamberine (Duff) For Ansar love the entertainment"

Imam Ibn Hajar added: Using Tamberine, is lawful for males and females.

For those who don't know Imam Ibn Hajar Al-Asqalaniy, Know that he would not be my granfather, He is The ultimate of Al-Huffadh. He is the one who authored Al-fateh in explanation of sahiah Al-Bukhariy.

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[quote]
Originally posted by FactFinder:
**Well said ThandyMazaq. Just one thing to add. Naat is poetry. When a poet writes a poem, he tends to exagerate his love for the subject. There are many naats where this has been done and that unduly elevates Rasool Allah (sallallaho alaihe wasallam). This he totally discouraged and, in fact, warned the people against. The next step is shirk.

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Brother talking abotu exageratations is one thing, and talking about Islamic rules is another. So if we have found some that exagerate in poetry in praising Prophet Muhammad, such as the ones who say he is inhuman, he is physical light, do we say: Poetry is haram on all hundreds of millions of Muslims?!..

Poetry is essential. Has anyone hear of "Suq ^Uqadh"? Its a mareket place where poets meeat and challenge each other.. But that's poem.

Islamic praises are essential, they sometimes are the cause of the repentance of the Muslim. They remind of the hereafter, they explain the values of Islam, they tell us who Prophet was, his merits.

Yes, we must warn of exageration not only in naat, in everything we do.

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Of All the schoarls, you ignored all and chose ibn taymiah?! the one who says: visiting the grave of Prophet Muahammad is Prohibited!!!..

Ibn Wahab?! You mean the founder of wahabisem? (look the meaning in webster).??!

Wahab who says: If you visit the grave of the Prophet you are a mushrik worst then the mushrikeen of quraysh?!! The one who was refuted first by his brother shykh sulayman! the one who brought the bid^ah to saudi land, and now they are trying to spread world wide!!..

Who elses other then wahabies declared Prophet Muhmmad as useless in the grave? who else declared Mawlid as shirk? who else delcared naat as bad innovation!!? who else delcared all Muslims as Mushrikhs from the time of ibn taymiah to the time of M.B.A.Wahab???..

Prophet Muhammad said: “My Nation does not unanimously go astray”. Ahlussnnah are hundreds of millions, whabaies or salafies claimers, do not add up to 2 million!.

Looking at the first post, you will find the sayings of the great scholars of Islam who truly were knowledgable and whom remained on the sunnah of the Propeht.

The Shafi^y Mathhab (my school - which is the school of mjority of Ahlussunnah):
Al Hafith as-Sakhawiy ash-Shafi^iyy, and he is the student of Al Hafith Ibn Hajar Al ^asqalaniyy, he said in his book: Al Qawl Al Badi^ fis-Salat ^ala Al Habib Ash-Shafee^ (His book: the brilliant say on making Salat on the beloved interceder – Prophet Muhammad) page 92: “The Mu’thins have innovated the salat and salam on the messenger of Allah after the athan for the five prayers except the fajr prayer and Jumu^ah, for they forward that in it on the athan exept al Maghrib they did not do it originally due to it’s limited duration”… Until he said: “and scholars had differences on if it’s recommended or not, bad innovation or lawful, but its permissibility was proven by the saying of Allah which means: [and do the good deed] and it’s clear that making Salat and Salam on the Prophet for being a good deed knowing that the news has confirmed and encouraged on doing that as making the Du^a’ after the athan and the last third of the night and near Fajr time and the fact is that it’s a good innovation and its doer is rewarded with the his good intention” End of the saying of Shafi^iyy.

----------------------- Wahabi issue has been dealt with long ago. Mufti Maccah has a great book refuting them: “Fitnatul-Wahabiyah”. or Visit: www.wahabies.cjb.net to know their deviations from Ijma^ and majority of scholars.

This topic is about praising the Propeht not cursing him, so plz no wahabisem. We dont’ need one coming with his disrepect to our prophet such as the pervious wahabi “The Watcher” who said: “the grave of the Prophet being out is a bid^ah and it must be destroyed and leveled to the ground”!!! Ya Lateef, and this is asserted from the wahabi leader albani in his book: Itikhath AL-Quboor Masajid!.

Allahumma Salli Wa sallim Wa Barak Ala Sayidi Rasulullah.

Allahumma Salli Wa sallim Wa Barak Ala Sayidi Rasulullah.

Allahumma Salli Wa sallim Wa Barak Ala Sayidi Rasulullah.

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Brother Asif well said, However one comment ust to be safe, that is about taliban, I believe and as a known fact, that Many of the Talibans are Sufies, They are Hanafiy maturidies, in creed, and Seek Barakah from the Prophet, yet when Bin Laden came in with his group, he brought the wahabi school with him, and influenced some if any, new-taliban members.
And Allah know best.

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u think there is such thing as bidathul hasna…or good innovation…read this…
The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) stated repeatedly that: “Every newly-invented thing is a bid’ah (innovation), every bid’ah is a going astray, and every going astray will be in the Fire.” (Reported by al-Nisaa’i in al-Sunan, Salaat al-'Eedayn, Baab kayfa al-Khutbah). Reports with the same meaning were narrated via Jaabir (may Allaah be pleased with him) by Ahmad, via al-'Irbaad ibn Saariyah by Abu Dawud and via Ibn Mas’ood (may Allaah be pleased with him) by Ibn Maajah.

The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) used to say, when beginning a khutbah (sermon): “… The best of speech is the Book of Allaah and the best of guidance is the guidance of Muhammad. The worst of things are those which are newly-invented, and every innovation is a going astray…” (reported by Muslim, no. 867)

The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) stated that whoever innovates something new in the deen (religion) will have his deed rejected, and Allaah will not accept it, as is stated in the hadeeth narrated by 'Aa’ishah (may Allaah be pleased with her), who said: “The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: ‘Whoever innovates something in this matter of ours that is not a part of it will have it rejected.’” (Reported by al-Bukhaari, Fath al-Baari, no. 2697). How can anybody then say that bid’ah is acceptable and it is permitted to follow it?
http://www.analyzeislam.com/Bidah/hasanbidaah.html
after reading this i dont think there is any proof left that biddah is not allowed no matter what…got it now…i am not wahabi, i m not salafi, i dont follow mohhamed ibn abdul wahab, i only follow allah and his prophet SAW but i dont go around making his prophet superior in respect or love to allah. and the mosque that used loud speakers to broadcast naats all night long dont use naat for prayers…they say mic and speakers are kafirs so they cant be used for namaz..then why the hell do they use them for naats and stuff…if they are unclean for namaz shouldnt they also be unclean for naats and stuff??that is the ignorace that i hate …