Making conversations

How good are you in initiating and making convos?

I honestly suck at it, specially with the strangers and bare acquaintances. Typical introvert.

Stumbled on this video btw. She made a interesting point that the first impression is NOT when you start talking. Rather when you enter that particular place.

I dont think there is one psuedo-approach. Everyone can have a different style.

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You have to have an interesting life in order to have interesting conversations and interesting personalities. It is a life long process that requires a lot of commitment from family to give their kids unique skills where they can talk about their skills

The first line is absolutely not true. Making conversations doesnt mean you are talking about yourself, rather you are actually getting to know the other person. BIG difference.

One has to be a complete narcist to only talk about their life.

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Never seen a door knob to be an amazing conversationalist one has to participate in a conversation and it’s a back and forth or it is just a spectator and not a participator. Also very important to learn social etiquettes and proper grooming, dressing properly for venue and controlling negativity and prejudices helps, manners and respect goes a long ways

Maintaining proper facial expressions, body language, tone and speed of delivery are important.

People will listen to and talk to people who have something important and interesting to say, not aur sunain Biwi bachay theek gain, kaam kaaj theek hai, aur Pakistan kubb Jana huwa

Yupp every time I socialized with these friends that was repeated a million times

​​​​​​’interesting’ is subjective.

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It helps if you are a good-looking person with a decent personality, look posh, appear wealthy and seem educated. People tend to gravitate towards you.

That is true and that is why we look for commonality, interesting people are able to pick commonalities with a varied group of people. In my previous socializing group the only band they played to was biryanni korma, religion, bad USA and Israel.
It has been established that kids who participate in activities have a more whole some life, it really is important to aquire skills and be involved in hobbies and make connections with the society.

Just to give you an example of some people I interact with, one young chap is succesful professionaly, is involved in avid cliff climbing, is an amazing photographer, has very expensive professional drone and is amazing at building and fixing. The other guy is a soccer enthusiast, trains rigorously, is an amazing cook, built a green house and grows his own herbs, bakes bread etc, also makes a skating ring in back yard and again great at parenting and building stuff, travelled all over for soccer and is funnier than hell.
Would most people not find them interesting?

So are you saying “What’s UP” and “Kiddan” are not enough…:bummer:

i find julie khan naked truth more interesting then any robotic professional speeches

Um..here is my opinion about what you mentioned:

Does it help? Yes sure these factors do help

Do they help in all circumstances? No, only in certain scenarios.

Are these the only traits that help? Absolutely no. These are just few of the many. Infact soft skills go a long way.

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Some people, yes. Especially those with similar interests but not necessarily for those who don’t share their interests.

Now for the topic - I’m introverted myself but every now and then I can click with others (whom I don’t know from beforehand) and have a decent conversation.

Actually the presenter says that start convo with a simple hello how are you and not over think or try to be super funny and out there and this is something I will take from the presenter.

I think you missed the point. What I meant was people with those attributes find it easier to engage people and make conversations. Of course these are not the only quantities. Sadly human psychology does not adhere much to principles of fairness and equality. Some human are naturally gifted and get treated differently than others even without making much effort compared to people with the so called ‘soft skills’ you mentioned. In fact people with both attributes will be even better at socializing and make connections to help climb the society ladder.

To me personally, the most interesting attribute is Intelligence. Nothing more sexier than that.

I have seen some of the most attractive, intelligent and financially well off people drown in loneliness due to lack of social tact, I know successful realtors who are really good with people make millions in any given year. Emotional intelligence is far more important than IQ. I had interacted with a Chinese specialist doctor and an Ismaili dentist who were so socially awkward and rude and could not understand the basics about normal life and left such a bad taste in my mouth that I still cringe after years of interacting with them. Interacting with people is a science and no we are not born with those skills, parents, friends, schooling all give us these skills. Harris is an extreme socialiser but to operate at a professional level I am training him. They say we like people who are like us or people who we aspire to be. Professionals change their personal style to match the person they are interacting with. They manage their posture, body language, facial expressions, tone, pitch and WPM to influence people.

@navzzz totally agree with your comment, I came across this tiny man in a social gathering, he had a very good command of the English language and was trying to impress people with his knowledge and flowery language and was full of himself. He had nasty oral hygiene and after I while I had, had enough and had to tell him that first things first and if you do not possess the basic sense of hygiene than knowledge of Philosopy and history would not do you too good.

[USER="116873"]Captain Obvious[/USER] most in your group probably got arranged married, most girls at that time went along with parents choice, there is a huge competition for good girls now and modern independent girls are looking for well groomed fit guys so if men in your group are not looking after their grooming, clothing, appearance and fitness than they may not find the choice partners. I dont eat bread and yet I find his bread making skills fascinating. I am not much in soccer but the fitness regime and knowledge intrigues me, for eg he told me that guys who plateu with upper body development, when go heavy with squats the whole body muscle grows.

Also @navzzz had given me great advice about increasing testosterone levels and without excercise IQ and S drive and testosterone levels drop drastically, would people be interested in that knowledge?

Things we have to do for our wives :lifey:

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This has nothing to do with the people I associate with and was more of a general response. However, I agree with what you said in a previous post:

Julie khan | Naked Truth

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I agree with her there but I’ve a different interpretation of asking wut up or something.

When someone asks: hi, how are you. Its more cordial and welcoming to have a thorough convo. But when someone uses a quick slang its like saying get to the point and move on so its not that welcoming. Hence the mention of conversation killer