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Originally posted by ahmadjee:
**In the life of AnHazoor (saw) he faced many catastrophes including the deaths of his very dear ones. For Example, his wife and companion Hazrat Khadija (ra) and that same year his beloved uncle Hazrat Abu Talib (ra) If we study on how he reacted on these occasions, we find that he mourned their deaths with the strong heart. He steadfast their losses with a heavy heart but with Tawaqul on Allah, he moved forward. Nothing close to how Hazrat Imam Hussain is mourned these days ...
Now, you can disagree and I fully give you the right to do so! If you have any example of AnHazoor (saw) mourning as such, then please point it out to me.
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I think regardless of ones position as a shia or a sunni, any muslim with the knowledge of the battle of karbala cannot help grieving at what happened. Yes, there is a stark difference in the way people show their grief, but thats upto every individual.
However, the deaths of Hazrat Khadija RA or Abu Talib were normal deaths, and the manner of death matters a lot in defining how a person will react. Compare it to the death of Hazrat Hamza RA, who was martyred in the battle of Uhud, and was mutilated brutally by the kuffar. Prophet SAW did show a lot of grief at that, and did cry a lot and did show his emotions, though they were not on the lines of what we see in muharram processions.
One question:
Is including someting into a religion after the Prophet Mohd. (saw) called bidat and is it also Haram? I am Sunni, I have heard that Omer (ra) in his Khilafat made (Muta) temporary marriage illegle. On the other hand, is not the incorporation of events that took place after the death of the prophet (saw) into Islam also bidat?
Or do shias belive that Islam is a continuing process with each Imam adding or making slight changes to suit the times? And how much power do they Have? I know that for Ismailis (a sect of shais) that Hijab is optional but I am not sure?
As a Muslim I belive that the Deen was complete by the Last Sermon of the prophet as detailed below:
This Sermon was delivered on the Ninth Day of Dhul Hijjah 10 A.H in the Uranah Valley of mount Arafat
"O People, lend me an attentive ear, for I don't know whether, after this year, I shall ever be amongst you again. Therefore listen to what I am saying to you carefully and take these words to those who could not be present here today.
O People, just as you regard this month, this day, this city as Sacred, so regard the life and property of every Muslim as a sacred trust. Return the goods entrusted to you to their rightful owners. Hurt no one so that no one may hurt you. Remember that you will indeed meet your Lord, and that He will indeed reckon your deeds. Allah has forbidden you to take usury (Interest), therefore all interest obligation shall henceforth be waived...
Beware of Satan, for your safety of your religion. He has lost all hope that he will ever be able to lead you astray in big things, so beware of following him in small things.
O People, it is true that you have certain rights with regard to your women, but they also have right over you. If they abide by your right then to them belongs the right to be fed and clothed in kindness. Do treat your women well and be kind to them for they are your partners and comitted helpers. And it is your right that they do not make friends with any one of whom you do not approve, as well as never to commit adultery.
O People, listen to me in earnest, whorship Allah, say your five daily prayers (Salah), fast during the month of Ramadhan, and give your wealth in Zakat. Perform Hajj if you can afford to. You know that every Muslim is the brother of another Muslim. You are all equal. Nobody has superiority over other except by piety and good action.
Remember, one day you will appear before Allah and answer for your deeds. So beware, do not astray from the path of righteousness after I am gone.
O People, no prophet or apostle will come after me and no new faith will be born. Reason well, therefore, O People, and understand my words which I convey to you. I leave behind me two things, the Qur'an and my example, the Sunnah and if you follow these you will never go astray.
All those who listen to me shall pass on my words to others and those to others again; and may the last ones understand my words better than those who listen to me direcly. *Be my witness oh Allah that I have conveyed your message to your people." *
So are any changes or additions made into the religion allowed? (including the making of mutah illeagle)
Source of the last Khutba: Alim Software
[This message has been edited by Topee Wala (edited March 24, 2001).]
Beating or hitting yourself sofina is also called Maatham
Trust me - this comes from Josh… when you’re at a majlis and hear the real life facts that went on and what everyone went thru then the pain you feel is such that your hands just go to your chest…
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Originally posted by Topee Wala:
*One question:
Is including someting into a religion after the Prophet Mohd. (saw) called bidat and is it also Haram? I am Sunni, I have heard that Omer (ra) in his Khilafat made (Muta) temporary marriage illegle. On the other hand, is not the incorporation of events that took place after the death of the prophet (saw) into Islam also bidat?
Or do shias belive that Islam is a continuing process with each Imam adding or making slight changes to suit the times? And how much power do they Have? I know that for Ismailis (a sect of shais) that Hijab is optional but I am not sure?
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For shias Islam is not a continuing process according to your definition. Nothing can be added to Islam or anything. BUT it does need to be reinterpreted according to times.
For example the rule on Khimr (ANything that makes you intoxicated ..eg. Alcohol, Narcotics) had to be reinterpreted in terms of Cigarrettes. Did anyone know that Cigarettes is HARAM in SHIA faith.
As far as things like hijab are concerned, shias aren't like Ismailis. We are probably the strictest in matters like that.
Shah-e-Mardan Sher-e-Yazdan,
Quwwat-e-Parwardigar,
Lafatah illa ALI,
La Saif ila Zulfiqar
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[This message has been edited by Lashkar-e-Abbas (edited March 25, 2001).]