Mats, CM talks thru his arse. If he himself weren’t an Urdu speaker he wouldn’t utter the nonsense. Urdu is fine if you are living in an Urdu speaking region, but in Pakistan only 8% of the population speaks it and that too after chewing a Paaan. Urdu can lick my balls and by the way, when you think you are speakin Urdu, I take that as Hindustani. Jazakalla.
I didn’t see the infamous pic neither do I recall the other stuff you mentioned earlier. FYI I don’t decide who gets banned or doesn’t here maybe you should persuade someone high up that you should be an admin. That way you could ban everyone with a sense of humour…even the guy who banned you. Now that would be hilarious 
You’re still being a desi drama queen. :pretty:
Yes, I propose that it would be good for legal languages to end. Yes, I affirm that’s my belief. But since when has this been the same as saying that legal force should be applied to make it happen?
It’s utterly foolish to think that any government could force an end to someone’s speaking of a language. It’s not foolish, though, to imagine that a language could, over time, become extinct through not being widely spoken, to the benefit of the wider society within which it exists.
A good example of this is Mauritian desis. Over 5 generations of desis have lived on Mauritius, alongside a diverse population of whites and blacks. Over the decades, less and less desi mauritians are able to speak or understand desi languages. This has nothing at all to do with government action against hindi or urdu. It’s just that desi people grew up speaking English and French as their main languages, to the detriment of their hindi skills, and passed on english and french to their kids, with just a little hindi, who raised their own kids with no hindi…
That’s the pattern that would be good for Pakistan. Actively cracking down on any language would be disasterous, it would produce ramifications such as 1971. If an ethnic group ever believes the government hates that group’s identity, it would lead to a callamity and a reinformcement of that identity.
Still exagerrating like a desi woman 
Regional languages have been around in their current form for relatively little time. Linguistic studies have suggested, for instance, that Sindhi and Punjabi became distinct only during the post-Christ (pbuh) period, and were evolving continuously in the centuries since.In their current form, regional languages are certainly not the same languages as spoken in the relevant areas 2000 or 3000 years ago.
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It's utterly foolish to think that any government could force an end to someone's speaking of a language.
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You have no idea how demographic of languages is effected by the educational system of the states.
but you are right partly...sometimes Govt can't do it..e.g. in Bangladesh. but other times it can when it is dealing with maader-chhoads(mother language quitter).
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You have no idea how demographic of languages is effected by the educational system of the states.
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That's different. A government not teaching a regional language is NOT forcing an end to that language - parents can still teach it to their kids, media can still broadcast it and print it, and you can still speak it around any government authority agents without legal problems.
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That's different. A government not teaching a regional language is NOT forcing an end to that language - parents can still teach it to their kids, media can still broadcast it and print it, and you can still speak it around any government authority agents without legal problems.
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Let me switch the situation. Let us make a hypothetical case that a Govt..e.g. Pakistan Govt stops mandatory teaching of Urdu as a language and medium of education in Pakistan and instructs all Govt offices to use some other language in all its procedures,records, forms and communications: How long do you think Urdu will survive in this hypothetical situation in that region of Pakistan? Will that be fair to a person who's mother language is Urdu?
The reason languages like Punjabi are still surviving in pakistan is because of its deep roots in the history and culture of the region. If Urdu had met that treatment from the Pakistani state that Punjabi has met, it would have scumbed to death by now.
If you want to say Urdu is good for Pakistani unity and Govt should once and for all take a decision to teach and implement and support only Urdu for the survival of the country. Fine. that is a political statement with political motivations and implications. Don't try to moralize it. There is no moral high ground for supporting all possible means for extinction of one language over the others.
Fine. that is a political statement with political motivations and implications. Don't try to moralize it. There is no moral high ground for supporting all possible means for extinction of one language over the others.
No Chann ji, it's not that simple. Anyone who desires for other languages to die down for the sake of so-called unity is hiding his prejudice for other cultures/languages behind the self-praised political ambitions. Otherwise why can't a national language and regional languanges co-exist? It's convenient to think to erase differences than to embrace them. Anyone who can't embrace diversity possesses a closed mind.
The same idiots who make different caste, language, religion an excuse will come up with some other excuse even if God forbid you eliminate all other languages. Xtreme is right on the spot.
You see, all these followers of Qauid-e-Azam have this typa "exclusion" mentality. Like they excluded all the rest of the religions by separating Pakistan, they want to exclude other cultural artifacts that they don't find conforming. Look what happened when you had ONLY one religion in the country. People now can't live with a different sect within the same religion.