"Lyrical terrorist" charged in England

bullehshah · November 8, 2007, 10:47pm

Yep, another British Pakistani convicted of expressing support for terrorists

How many here believe she is innocent?

UK woman found guilty of terror offences
PA
Published: 08 November 2007
Heathrow Airport worker Samina Malik, 23, who called herself the " lyrical terrorist", became the first woman to be convicted under the Terrorism Act 2000 today following an Old Bailey trial.

Malik gave a gasp as the guilty verdict was delivered. She bowed her head and sobbed.

Two of the five female jurors wiped away tears as submissions were made on her behalf to the judge.

Judge Peter Beaumont, the Recorder of London, bailed Malik under what he described as “house arrest” to be sentenced on December 6 and ordered reports into her family background.

He told her: “You have been in many respects a complete enigma to me.” He warned her that “all sentencing options remain open”.

Malik was arrested in October last year. When her bedroom was searched police found a ringbinder full of documents as well as a bracelet bearing the word “jihad”.

They also discovered a sticker on a mirror inside the door, bearing the words “lyrical terrorist”.

In one handwritten document found by police, she wrote: "Many opportunities have been given to me but something always holds me back.

"I always sit alone to think and ponder how it would be to unite with the Muslim ummah and to go shoot rocket-launchers, help them load their ammunition, nurse the wounded, and what the atmosphere would be like.

"I wonder what it will be like to be with the Muslims when a mischief kaffir is shot dead … how it will be when we see our Muslim brothers and sisters go forth with swords in their hands, running towards blessed death with the look of ‘I love death more than life’ on their shining faces.

"I wonder how it will be on the front line. Without a doubt it is scary. One must be strong physically and mentally.

“I sit and ponder day after day, night after night. I want to have the death of a shaheed (martyr) … I want the opportunity to take part in the blessed sacred duty of jihad.”

Also found were publications from an Islamic extremist group called " Followers of Ahl us-Sunnah Wal-Jammaa’ah" (ASWJ) linked to another group, The Saved Sect, and extremist cleric Sheikh Omar Bakri.

In a box file in the family lounge was a printed-out version of the " declaration of war" by Osama bin Laden, the court heard.

One poem, called The Living Martyrs, said: “For the living martyrs are awakening/ And kuffars world soon to be shaking.”

Another line ran: “Let us make Jihad/ Move to the front line/ To chop chop head of kuffar swine”.

A second poem was called How to Behead: “It’s not as messy or as hard as some may think/ It’s all about the flow of the wrist,” it read.

Another section said: “No doubt that the punk will twitch and scream/ But ignore the donkey’s ass/ And continue to slice back and forth/ You’ll feel the knife hit the wind and food pipe/ But Don’t Stop/ Continue with all your might”.

Discovered on the her computer were The Mujaheddin Poisoner’s Handbook, Encyclopaedia Jihad, How To Win In Hand To Hand Combat, How To Make Bombs and Sniper Manual.

The court heard Malik joined an extremist organisation called Jihad Way, set up explicitly to disseminate terrorist propaganda and support for al Qaida.

She also belonged to a website called Hi-5, described in court as similar to social networking sites Facebook or MySpace.

On this she listed her interests as: “Helping the mujaheddin in any way which I can … I am well known as lyrical terrorist.”

Under favourite TV shows, it said: “Watching videos by my Muslim brothers in Iraq, yep the beheading ones, watching video messages by Osama bin Laden and Ayman al-Zawahri and other videos which show massacres of the kaffirs.”

In another internet entry, the court heard, she wrote the names Sheikh Abu Hamza al-Masri, Sheikh Abu Qatada, Sheikh Osama bin Laden and Abu Musa al Zarqawi.

Beneath was written: “May Allah continue to make our mujaheddin brothers firm and strong in war against the kuffar crusaders … lyrical terrorist.”

Deputy Assistant Commissioner Peter Clarke, head of the Metropolitan Police Counter Terrorism Command, said: "Malik held violent extremist views which she shared with other like-minded people over the internet.

"She also tried to donate money to a terrorist group.

"She had the ideology, ability and determination to access and download material which could have been useful to terrorists.

“Merely possessing this material is a serious criminal offence.”

http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/crime/article3141405.ece

Orpheus · November 8, 2007, 10:59pm

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Stupid people never learn.

Pakap · November 9, 2007, 12:17am

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people really like to think with their as$ dont they?

picoico · November 9, 2007, 1:19am

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Crimethink.

underthedome · November 9, 2007, 6:42am

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^
There should be no consequences if you say you plan on helping to kill innocent people? It also states she tried to donate to their cause.

teggy · November 9, 2007, 7:45am

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she's sick and needs help. seriously, she needs to be cleansed of this sick thinking and ideology. I hope her parents make the most of this opportunity and have a talk with her about what being a Muslim really means. I'm sick of such ppl like her who always become the shadow of shame for their families and the rest who want nothing to do with such notions about the teaching of a peaceful faith, for they're nothing but words of a man who thinks he has decoded the holy book. Shame on her for thinking such stuff. She should've looked more into reading Quran than following some 'lyrics'......

Just curious though.....how did it all start? like why were the cops at her house to begin with though?....

vroom · November 9, 2007, 9:34am

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possessing some of the extreme literature is an offence under new terror laws. thats what shes been done for. i get the impression she wasnt a terrorist, but then again its not my job to judge. shes in for a heavy custodial sentence. i think possessing some of these literatures should be a criminal and arrest-able offence but a more serious charge relating to terrorism should only be made after evaluating the individuals actual risk to public safety.

im sure many people like samina have a fascination with terrorism. the amount of tv coverage its had over the last decade guarantees it. throw in the political issues often mis-aligned with terrorists and you can see millions of people wanting the terrorists to win.

to get rid of this problem, the authourities need to counter the perception that the west discriminates against muslim countries politically by changing their foreign policy. its something the uk muslim community have mentioned in the past, but the minister in charge at the time labled it an extremist ploy. although other ministers have different views about it, previous governments have been happy to let this situation get worse. if their happy with it then lets just watch the saminas, lyrical terrorists, and other potential artists roll in

picoico · November 9, 2007, 8:38pm

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Did she plan on it? Or express an interest in what it would be like?

As for plans on materially supporting said groups, I'm sorry...so far terror cases against people like her (and I cite the gang rounded up in Toronto) often start with such claims...but later on turn to be baseless. Again...did she actually commit the crime...or was she thinking about it...or was it some kind of misguided bravado in hopes to incite?

A Blackwater employee she is not. I don't see her as a mercenary in training...

So far, crimethink is an apt description...she is under arrest for thinking a certain way and possessing information that's already out there in the public domain. Not for any act she did or had a planed to carry out...

saieen · November 9, 2007, 9:34pm

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tomorrow someone will fart loudly and government will charge him.her as a FARTING TERRORIST. when will this nonsense stop? so its ok now to prosecute people based on what they THINK? thats just pathetic. :halo:

TiLl_LuK · November 9, 2007, 10:37pm

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FARTING TERRORIST :biggthumb GOOD 1!

Orpheus · November 9, 2007, 10:47pm

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^ ...sista?

teggy · November 9, 2007, 10:51pm

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^that's exactly what i was bout to say...

maybe she knows sumthing we don't.... lol j/k Saieen u know i dnt really mean dat

Sara516 · November 9, 2007, 11:57pm

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teggy · November 10, 2007, 12:13am

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^that saieen is 'Sista'....loool

Sara516 · November 10, 2007, 12:15am

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i always wanted a sister

bullehshah · November 10, 2007, 8:36am

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After how British-bred Pakistanis bombed the Tube 2 years ago, they have every right to scrutinize Muslims if they aren’t willing to live peacefully with others.

TiLl_LuK · November 10, 2007, 8:11pm

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Iv seen more IRRATIONAL stuff on this whole forum thing"...why they'd remove my post...I WANT AN ANSWER PLZ!

Najim · November 11, 2007, 10:05pm

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I’d like the judge to eat at least 2 pounds of baked beans in breakfast they day he decides the case.

cricketplaya · November 11, 2007, 11:16pm

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Also found were publications from an Islamic extremist group called " Followers of Ahl us-Sunnah Wal-Jammaa'ah" (ASWJ)
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lol

chacha_Ghalib · November 14, 2007, 5:13pm

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me too.

i don't see any reason to remove all those posts... and it would be nice if a reason was given in that PM thingy. I mean why would they send that email otherwise. Most people don't remember they posted in a particular thread after a few days. If you are going to remove the post, then do it quietly and there would be no heart burn caused to anyone. They send an email to tell us that our post is removed and don't give a reason for it.