Losing Faith

As-salaamu ‘alaykum. :rose:

My name is Abdul Quddus and, primarily but not necessarily, I am requesting responses from Muslims. I’m writing in all sincerity and honesty. Any personal views and experiences would be appreciated. Like most reverts to Islaam, I was raised in a Judeo-Christian milieu wherein anthropomorphism and polytheism were abound in mainstream belief. As a youth, I rebelled against these innovations and preferred the standpoint of atheism. However, after discovering the Qur’aan, I became instantly captivated by the message of tawheed. Not just by the Oneness of Allaah (swt), but also the Uniqueness of Allaah (swt). I became a devout Muslim and fundamentalist. There was nothing wrong with strictly adhering to the “fundamentals” of my religion, I would boastfully remark. Eventually, a fundamental aspect of Islaam became problematic for me.

Here are my questions: How have you, as a practicing Muslim, dealt with the distinguishing characteristics of Allaah (swt) in light of Soorah al-Ikhlaas? Specifically, I’m referring to His Shin, His Eye, His Face, His Right and Left Hand, His Finger, His Foot, His Throne, etc. By far, these characteristics have been difficult to accept. Secondly, how do you approach the apparently pernicious nature of Hellfire proclaimed in the Qur’aan? If this struggle pertains to your experience, how have you coped when you confronted the questionable subject matter in your religion?

Surprisingly, the greatest obstacle to becoming a better Muslim was something within my Qur’aan. Perhaps, in all fairness, the problem is within my mind only. I still remember the day I read of The Shin in one particular ayaah. The apparent cruelty to be meted out upon disbelievers in Hellfire is quite disturbing to me. I couldn’t believe in jinn or the story of Nuh. It’s strange how just the disbelief in jinn makes one a kaafir. Devastatingly, this hasn’t only affected my ‘ibaadah but my very status as a Muslim. In 2004, I became an apostate of Islaam. Have any practicing Muslims gone through this? How did you survive? To get a more detailed account of my conversion and experience, you’re welcome to read my testimony at khalasDOTwordpressDOTcom titled Journey Through Islam.

One would think, as a former Muslim, that I’d casually assimilate well with ex-Muslims. However, my views do not homogenize with most apostates. Basically, perhaps eighty percent of those who have left the deen fall into either atheism or Christianity. One group of ex-Muslims that I most disagree with are the Christians, probably because they have an axe to grind with Islaam. Many of them are resentful of their experiences and become hatemongering polemics. They attack Islaam as if the deen has not an atom of wholesomeness or usefulness. Even I myself cannot fathom how a proper Muslim can suddenly abandon tawheed for man-worship. Speaking as an ethical atheist, I find atheism lacking a moral compass. The atheist ex-Muslim community is far from communal. It’s lonely. Like cats, they’re far too intelligent and independent to come together and would rather choose to roam.

Many of my friends – most of whom are Muslim – claim that my understanding and knowledge needs to be corrected. If I re-revert back to Islaam, I’d most likely become an extremist pushing my fellow brothers into the masjid and campaigning for the implementation of sharee’ah in my society. It’s so cliche, I know. But if you truly believe in something, why settle for mediocrity? I’d appreciate any advice, opinion, correction, or even admonishment. I’m expressing myself to you all in hopes that someone cares to offer constructive criticism.

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The Answer is in the Quran itself…

:bism:

**Surah Baqarah (1 - 6)

Alif. Lam. Mim.

This is the Scripture whereof there is no doubt, a guidance unto those who ward off (evil).

Who believe in the Unseen, and establish worship, and spend of that We have bestowed upon them;

And who believe in that which is revealed unto thee (Muhammad) and that which was revealed before thee, and are certain of the Hereafter.

These depend on guidance from their Lord. These are the successful.

As for the Disbelievers, Whether thou warn them or thou warn them not it is all one for them; they believe not. **

Do not force Islam upon yourself…Otherwise you might end up being harsh and bitter…Acquire it but gently and with understanding…

Read the Ahadith and discover the beauty of the Holy Prophet :saw:'s words…

No one is perfect…I too was a Barelvi then became an atheist…But thanks to 9/11 and the exposure given to Islam I slowly learned…Very far from perfect, I ask Allah :swt: to guide both of us…Ameen…

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wow, you were a murtid? I did not kow that
Subhan Allah that you got guided back.

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:alhamd: he is not anymore. May Allah:swt: make all “are” to “were”
Ameen

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I agree with Lajawab...

Maybe you should just take a little time out, for yourself and think about why are the verses disturbing you? Just 5 minutes everyday thinking about Islam can really help a persons Imaan.

Maaf brother, I'm not in that great a position to help you either. These days my own Imaan is very dodgy. It doesn't help that my father is a pakka tablighi.

But you know, I think we just have to try our best and have hope in Allah's mercy. I think it's nothing short of a miracle that in these times of debauchery we still have a semblance of Imaan.

Insha-Allah I'll make dua for you and myself.

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he has also posted this on other forums like http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=21283

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Hmmm…A spammer? But why?

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Lajawab, how did you come to believe in Allaah again? Convince me. Convert me. :hugz:Secondly, how have you sustained that belief?

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I just started to read Ahadith...Lots of beautiful stuff in there...

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What does murtid means? Non believer?

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Brother Abdul…I myself cannot offer you a lot of insight but I have heard Jeffery Lang, he is a convertee from Atheism and he really makes sense to me in his mannerism.His Books"Struggling to Surrender", and “when Angels Speak”, are really good.Read up on this article and see wat he says.
http://www.welcome-back.org/profile/jeffrey_lang.shtml
May Allah Guide you to the correct path:)

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Murtid is the one who was previously a muslim, (either born muslim or reverted to Islam) but later changed his decision to become a non-muslim.

@Lajawab. Nice sharing. May Allah bless all of us with the strength and wisdom to remain firm in our true beliefs.

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Exactly!!!..you are a soul that searches for the truth,may Allah guide you

Hope you are not offended but in my opinion your position is like the kharijites in the time of Ali b abi talib [as]
take a minute to reflect on these words
http://www.al-islam.org/nahjul/60.htm

from our [muslim] standpoint the truth is islam
most muslims know that and accept, that but do not follow it by their actions
these people are those who seek the world but in the guise of faith. “one who seeks wrong and find it”], they are ones who find excuses in disobeying Allah and blame the more puritin followers for being “extremists”.

On the other hand are those who in seeking the truth go to the other extreme,and deviate from their faith even though they think they are on the right.These people however are sincere in their beliefs and if properly guided can be brought back to the truth.They are much better than those who make no effort to seek the truth

lthat is why before fighting the kharijites Ali b abitalib[as] made every effort to convince these people to abandon their deviation and join him.As he knew that if properly guided they can be among the best muslims
He sent eminent scholars like abdullah b abbas[ra] and abu ayyub ansari[ra] to them to debate with them peacefully , that is why out of 10,000 only 1,400 of them remained opposed to Ali.The rest were convinced as their hearts were open to good reasoning and logic. like yazid b qays[ra] who previously has been denouncing Ali and his men became his most fervent supporter].
the whole moral of the story is that those who are sincere believers are not quick to condemn others who disagree with them as infidels …nowhere is this most clear than in Ali’s handling of kharijites.
Before they started murdering people indiscriminatley they were welltolerated in kufa , so much so that their stipends from bayt ul mal were not withheld. Even though they openly called Ali a mushrik for accepting the arbitration at siffin.

we have in our times too those who in seeking the truth deviate from the right path,
either becoming so “religious” that they are prepared to kill other muslims to prove their point, or so disheartened that they leave the faith altogather…problem is that there is an acute shortage of scholars like Ali, ibn abbas, abu ayyub to properly guide these people.
One scholar that I appreciate a lot is shaykh ninowy
www.alhaqq.net

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A believer who becomes non-believer.

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Additionally, here are some questions I'd appreciate responses to.

  1. Why do you believe in God?
  2. What can an atheist/agnostic do to develop a belief in God?
  3. What can an atheist/agnostic do to maintain a belief in God?
  4. How is the Qur'aan not a man-made composition?
  5. What should one do if he or she is simply not convinced with or impressed by the Qur'aan?
  6. There are many religions offering wholesome teachings and truths. When should one stop trying to convince himself or herself that Islaam could be exactly what it claims to be?

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hmmmmmm

should i hit my head or should i not,

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You will travel on many routes in this life and encounter many other beliefs and ideologies that do contain pieces of good advice and 'wholesome' truths as you say. But through experience you will find that Islam and the Qur'an is the best articulation of this knowledge and guidance, it is deliberately perfected. I would like to email you/send you an essay on the miracle of the Qur'an. Alhamdulillah, I'm lucky to be a university student of Islam in the academic sense, I don't know much but isAllah you will find it to be objective and based only on evidence.

Beware of calling yourself an apostate simply because your interpretation is not the same as the mainstream one. The topics you have outlined have been under debate for ages- you'd be surprised at the range of legitimate 'interpretations' that spring from such symbolism.

I believe that beginning with understanding the miracle of the Qur'an, you can work backwards isAllah and see what conclusion you come to.

I think it was Ibn Khaldun who said something like we are trying to measure a mountain using a goldsmiths ruler; this does not make our own measurements necessarily inaccurate. ... I don't believe we should be overwhelmed by this.

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subhan Allah!

Thats what i do and it works ALWAYS

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Before starting the post is going to be really long so read it with patience,i hope you get your answer here.

[quote=“abdul-quddus”]

As-salaamu ‘alaykum. :rose:

Al Hamdullillaah

As an individual, Allaah is told I am not comparable to any one in the world. Then you have this contradictions, like physical characteristics.
Now let me analyze

  1. Allaah is got hand, eyes, face as mentioned in the Quran is it similar to us, and if its similar to us the complete concept of Islam is debunked.

  2. Allaah has eyes, face, hand but its not similar to us, which is in complete concordance with the Quran. Small eg. I cannot hear something 10 km away from me but Allaah knows, exactly wht enters the earth and goes out from it.

Now in details, Allaah is trying to explain to us in detail something which a human brain can comprehend. Take instance of Surah 17:1, for anyone this is a huge flight but Allaah is only mentioned the worldly stuff in this Ayah to the believers as well as disbelievers.

If Allaah wants he can explain to us regarding some galaxy in the universe its not exactly the same. Allaah says in the Quran sameeun baseer which is hear and see, but is it exactly the same way we perciever as humans, we come to the bottom line if someone can hear and see then he’s got to have ears and eyes, but are those eyes similar to us no way because Allaah compasses all knowledge but not us as mentioned in Surah 2:255

Instead of thinking about hell fire, have you thought that I should thank my creator instead and ask forgiveness regardint hell fire, now as a Muslims it necessary to believe in Al Qadr (destiny) , which many of us deny today. But why, as a parent, if our children commit mistakes we are right there to punish them, but as God is all merciful, has answered all our queries to get into Jannah.

Let me quote this verse

051.056YUSUFALI: I have only created Jinns and men, that they may serve Me.

But after reading this verse from the holy quran, we instantly think why does this mean but read the next two verses

051.057YUSUFALI: No Sustenance do I require of them, nor do I require that they should feed Me.
051.058YUSUFALI: For Allah is He Who gives (all) Sustenance,- Lord of Power,- Steadfast (for ever).

As pointed by Lajawab in post #2.