Re: Looking for supportive verses/ahadeeths against homosexuality
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If i were at your place. I'd tell them to do what ever pleases them and they don't really need to prove anyone anything and not to use religious context which maybe offensive to others. Tell them it's genetically proven that a person may develop sexual feelings for same-sex. It's perfectly normal and natural process. Homosexuality is just over-rated way too much.
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umm @SafwanR could you please quote more about this genetically proven things?
One of their argument is that "God made us like that, we dont' have a choice" .. ..
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Thanks
Re: Looking for supportive verses/ahadeeths against homosexuality
If i were at your place. I'd tell them to do what ever pleases them and they don't really need to prove anyone anything and not to use religious context which maybe offensive to others. Tell them it's genetically proven that a person may develop sexual feelings for same-sex. It's perfectly normal and natural process. Homosexuality is just over-rated way too much.
The point is that it is forbidden in Islam and when they try and justify their actions through their interpretations/delusions its his right to defend his religion. If they can use it to be gay, he can use it to prove his POV. What do you think about inter-species sex? How about a dude ramming a goat? If it happens, it must be a normal and natural process right? Dude everything that happens isn't always 'good' or 'right'.
Ultimately, they can do whatever the hell they want in their own house. But please don't try and defend their argument about 'Oooh Islam is so moderate! And we can be gay and be Muslims!' Its a horrible excuse to satiate your carnal desires.
I actually know a few gay people too and a couple of Muslim guys who say they're gay. These guys don't act on their erm inclinations because they think it is a test by Allah. Just like there are children born without limbs, people who get cancer, etc. Its a test of their submission to Allah. I'm actually hella proud of them lot.
BTW, there is no such thing as a gay gene. It was false/hyped reporting and it has been disproved since then. So go read up on your homosexuality brutha!
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Dr. Dean Hamer is an American geneticist and Author of book “The God Gene”. He has claimed to have found the gay gene. And trust me, i’ve talked to a few homosexuals myself out of curiosity in order to find if they feel helpless towards their homosexuality. They really are helpless. Let me put it this way T1000. I assume your straight as much as I am. We feel sexually and emotionally attracted to female only. Now what in Earth would make us attracted to any male character? We wouldn’t do that. We wouldn’t even be able to pretend to have attraction for a male. Why would they do that? Unless they actually feel for it. Trust me. Let them be the way they are. I have my own set of belief and you have your own and I completely respect that.
Re: Looking for supportive verses/ahadeeths against homosexuality
If i were at your place. I'd tell them to do what ever pleases them and they don't really need to prove anyone anything and not to use religious context which maybe offensive to others. Tell them it's genetically proven that a person may develop sexual feelings for same-sex. It's perfectly normal and natural process. Homosexuality is just over-rated way too much.
I have a genetic disorder where I love to steal candy from small kids. I guess it should be ok cause it pleases me also.
Re: Looking for supportive verses/ahadeeths against homosexuality
The point is that it is forbidden in Islam and when they try and justify their actions through their interpretations/delusions its his right to defend his religion. If they can use it to be gay, he can use it to prove his POV. What do you think about inter-species sex? How about a dude ramming a goat? If it happens, it must be a normal and natural process right? Dude everything that happens isn't always 'good' or 'right'.
Ultimately, they can do whatever the hell they want in their own house. But please don't try and defend their argument about 'Oooh Islam is so moderate! And we can be gay and be Muslims!' Its a horrible excuse to satiate your carnal desires.
I actually know a few gay people too and a couple of Muslim guys who say they're gay. These guys don't act on their erm inclinations because they think it is a test by Allah. Just like there are children born without limbs, people who get cancer, etc. Its a test of their submission to Allah. I'm actually hella proud of them lot.
BTW, there is no such thing as a gay gene. It was false/hyped reporting and it has been disproved since then. So go read up on your homosexuality brutha!
I hear what you're saying. As I said before. I told T1000 to tell his friends to avoid the use of religious context to justify their action. It is just offensive to religious people. And it is simple as I say that "They do NOT need to justify themselves to ANYONE at all".
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LOL @TLK
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I have a genetic disorder where I love to steal candy from small kids. I guess it should be ok cause it pleases me also.
HAHA. You're evil! :D
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Almost everything can be shown to be more common in people with a certain genes, that includes crimes. Doesnt mean that makes them above the laws.
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Dude, google it. Its not proven.
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Dude, google it. Its not proven.
I've got a simple question for you, mate. What is your explanation to the millions and millions of people around the world who are leading homosexual life and have no interest in anyone of the opposite sex? Are they all faking it just to piss off God? It is simple. They are born homosexual.
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I've got a simple question for you, mate. What is your explanation to the millions and millions of people around the world who are leading homosexual life and have no interest in anyone of the opposite sex? Are they all faking it just to piss off God? It is simple. They are born homosexual.
I'm saying its not proven. Everyone has an inclination when it comes to sexuality. Your argument holds the same for many reasons as Iconoclast said.
I know gay people and I don't care, they can be gay in their own houses. Just don't pretend that God is okay with it. He forbids it.
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Tell them God created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve.
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But how would you know Maroush? 
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I was hoping it wouldn’t come to this…but i think i need to give a Biology lesson.. 
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Seriously, all these people who talk about homosexuality being natural need to take a look at the natural world. Going against the propagation of species is not natural. Hence any arguments are null and void.
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All I can conclude by listening to the all the facts from people. This is just an endless argument. With all seriousness. It's no use arguing.
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:salam2:
Allah SWT Said: