Looking for info on combining salah

[SlaveofAllaah]

Re: Looking for info on combining salah

Check out verses 4:102 and 107:4-5. infact in the latter verse it says woe unto those who are neglectful of there prayers.
Its only after reading this verses ye nacheez salah fixed hours mein padne laga otherwise it was altogehter 4 in the night

[iori_yagami]

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@Code_Red

Not that i am contesting your comments but what if two or more scholars of same school of thought , give different reply to same question ?

then go with that which follows sunnah. Schools of thought are secondary to sunnah, every imam told us to follow sunnah. If what they said directly conflicts with sunnah then you are supposed to follow sunnah, not the imam.

[Antumul_alona]

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@iori yagami

It is allowed for a person to combine the zuhr and 'asr salah, either during the time of the earlier or the later salah, or the maghrib and 'isha prayers if he is in one of the following circumstances:

If he is travelling, sick, or has some other pressing need and at 'Arafa and while it is raining.

Read Fiqh us sunnah for more details
source : fiqh us sunnah
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/law/fiqhussunnah/fus2_37.html

like i said before, i strongly advise people on gs to stop posting religious questions on gs. We have alot of people on here who know nothing about Islam and who talk away without knowing what the consequences of their actions might be. Ask an actual scholar, and no i am not a scholar…

although I completely agree, but this is Dawah… yes ppl will talk about religion like it or not..becuase they need questions answered…
So bhai/behan we are atleast getting an opportunity to provide useful knowlege to them…

[Antumul_alona]

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@Sadiyah

Assalamo alaykum,

I was wondering if I could get some information on combining salah. Also, what are the conditions that are to be followed and the method of actually praying a combined salah.

One scenario I have in mind is if one's allowed to combine salah while writing an exam or stuck in a class.

I'm looking for the ahl us sunnah wal jamaah perspective. Appropriate references would be much appreciated.

WA WRWB

Combining salah is under following condition according to authentic sunnah or Rasul Allah SAW:
1. In Battle
2. In travelling (beyond 48 miles so that a shariah travelling condition applies)
3. In Hajj - during Arafah - as this is also like travelling and the prophet SAW travelled with the sahabah from Medinah so they combined the salah.
4. In raining or other extreme weather condition like blizzards when you cannot come back to teh masjid (does not apply to praying at home)

Now rules of Qadha:
Technically there is no qadha - meaning combining salahs to pray at the end of the day like in SHIA FIQH.
The only condition is when you miss a pray :
1. sleep late and miss fajr - you make this prayer as soon as you get up and it is considered offered.
2. You are caught up in something beyond your control and did not plan for it to happen - you then make your prayer as soon as you get a chance ..you first offer your missed prayer and then the current one for which it is time..

I can send you references if you need them but IYORI posted the link to Fiqh Sunnah (by Syed Sabik) from USC webserver and you will probably find the same references on that as well. It is a good resource Ahmadolillah!

I pray this helps!

ASAK

[iori_yagami]

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@Antumul alona

although I completely agree, but this is Dawah… yes ppl will talk about religion like it or not..becuase they need questions answered…
So bhai/behan we are atleast getting an opportunity to provide useful knowlege to them…

yes you are correct too. But we are told to strive for the truth. I know of no person on here who actually has enough knowlege to talk about half the stuff we post. I personally think with all the fighting that goes on here, there is a huge probability that someone will end up going in the wrong direction. Either because of lack of knowlege or because someone else leads them the wrong way. Da’wa is one thing but matters that effect our religion so deeply should be consulted with someone who has enough knowledge.

[Antumul_alona]

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true but we can still ppls questions answered by telling that we can get a real answer for them and then ask some one get back to them here.. you can always PM ppl you know..they do listen...
And I agree the fighting and name calling must stop otherwise it is a waste of time..
and again like you said...goal should be to find the truth not what our nafs (self) wants to believe...

[iori_yagami]

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true. Keep up the good work.. inshAllah.

[Sadiyah]

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References would be much appreciated.

Are there any appropriate fatawa that could be shared?

Again, I'm not talking about being lazy and not getting out of class. I'm talking about not being able to leave due to the nature of class or when one's writing an exam/test during which leaving is not possible.

Once again, I'm not talking about being lazy. I'm talking about during a time when one cannot afford to leave or be able to pray.

References and fatawa would be helpful.

[cricketplaya]

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“Verily prayer has been ordained upon the believers on its appropriate time” [Qur’an, 4: 103]

http://qa.sunnipath.com/issue_view.asp?HD=1&ID=936&CATE=4

Only in their respected times* meaning pray duhur at its end and asr at is beginning.

[AllahkaBanda]

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@armughal

dont complicate the religion so much…
Islam has given the ease of combining prayers…
if one is in a difficult situation, then instead of skipping the prayer, it is much better to combine prayers…

according to hadith, the Prophet (saw) combined prayers in madinah, without a reason of travel, fear, war, rain or any other such reason…

Subhaan Allah, i’m not complicating things here. I mentioned about that hadith before that Prophet(SAW) did combine prayers on certain occassions without any reason and that’s why some scholar say we should do it once in while but the correct view is that offer the sala’hs on the right time.

All, i’m asking is with what niya’h are we combining our sala’hs. Are the wordly excuses acceptble? What is more important to us, our sala’h or wordly studies? I’m not scholar or anything, this is what my understanding is. I just found out that if you’re in very tough situation then without a valid excuse you can combine the prayers but if we can make an effort and offer every sala’h on time then why not!

Sister, myself is a student so i understand your situation. If you know you would most likely miss the sala’h then it would be better to combine with a pervious sala’h, otehrwise if you’re late in offering it then do it as quickly as possible. Wallahu Alam and here’s an article which could be helpful.

http://www.islam-qa.com/index.php?ref=9561&ln=eng&txt=prayers
It’s not excatly related to your question but there’re few lines which would help you.

[Sara516]

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@iori yagami

It is allowed for a person to combine the zuhr and 'asr salah, either during the time of the earlier or the later salah, or the maghrib and 'isha prayers if he is in one of the following circumstances:

If he is travelling, sick, or has some other pressing need and at 'Arafa and while it is raining.

Read Fiqh us sunnah for more details
source : fiqh us sunnah
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/law/fiqhussunnah/fus2_37.html

like i said before, i strongly advise people on gs to stop posting religious questions on gs. We have alot of people on here who know nothing about Islam and who talk away without knowing what the consequences of their actions might be. Ask an actual scholar, and no i am not a scholar…

I know this si a dumb question, but where do u find a scholar to talk to? I prefer to talk to someone versus reading questions..Also, some questions, u cant xactly ask a imam/scholar :bummer:

[geek]

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@Sadiyah

Are there any appropriate fatawa that could be shared?

Here’s what I could find. Apparently they have a fatwa center.

Combining prayers for exam reasons

They have a bunch of other fatwas under the heading “Combining Salah”

About fatwa

[korisn]

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whts the difference btwn combining namaaz and readin qaza...?
whts the protocol for qaza namaz? my zohar namaz is usually qaza.. i read it when i get home from work and then read asar right after. I read the complete namaz (minus the nafls) and then read asar right after... the only thing is i make my niyat in the begining for which namaz i'm reading.

i'm not really sure if this is the right way or not... its seems to make sence...

as long as i'm not doing it wrong...

any suggestions?

[AllahkaBanda]

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^ For qaza sala'hs you only offer the fard raka'hs except fajr sala'h for which you need to offer both sunnah and fard raka'hs.

The way you offering your zuhr qaza is fine, you can do it either before Asr fard or after. Prophet(SAW) once even offered qaza sunnah raka'hs for fajr sala'h after asr.

As far concerning missing the zuhr everyday, it's not a good idea at all, please make an effort to offer it during your work time, inshAllah. You may be excused if it's once in while but everyday doesn't seem right

[ahmadjee]

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Sadiyah,

At my school I know people who say their prayers between classes. We don't have a room/chapel so we all pray where ever we can find a quiet corner. Most people pray under the stairs which isn't private but the traffic is low. I see these students coming in to pray and they pray like they are the bullet train. I mean, it takes them at most two minutes to finish Asar prayers. I don't blame them, they are trying to beat the clock!

But personally I would much rather say prayers in peace than in a hurry, even if it means I have to combine them. Its often that I have a class around maghrib or asar. I can quickly say my prayers and get done with them on time or I can wait to get done with the class and say my prayers in peace. So I only pray under the stairs if I know I won't be able to say them in peace later anyway, or if I know that I won't be able to combine. i.e. you can't combine asar and maghrib, so if asar time is running out I would perform asar prayers the best way I can.

My point being that prayers are a little more than ritual, so being so strict on time while compromising quality just doesn't feel right. And those who say they can concentrate on prayers while walking out of a 55 minute class for even 10 minutes have either never attended a class or have never tried to concentrate in prayers or studies.

[Antumul_alona]

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@Sara516

I know this si a dumb question, but where do u find a scholar to talk to? I prefer to talk to someone versus reading questions..Also, some questions, u cant xactly ask a imam/scholar :bummer:

Sara
Where are you located - R u in the US ?
Go 2 ur local islamic center (depends on your school of thought. - find the nearest one - islamicfinder.org
put in your zip code and find your nearest one. Then go there and ask for the Imam. If they have a website - look for contact info. or Imam info.
Try to meet the Imam. If it is a good masjid they will have a qualified learned scholar.
You can also seek a lot of personal issue answers on http://sisters.islamway.com/
and you can go to their discussion forum - http://sisters.islamway.com/forum/
also…
I pray this helps..

[Antumul_alona]

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@geek

Here’s what I could find. Apparently they have a fatwa center.

Combining prayers for exam reasons

They have a bunch of other fatwas under the heading “Combining Salah”

About fatwa

:k:
good reference site.. for non-shia that is…

[Antumul_alona]

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@AllahkaBanda

^ For qaza sala'hs you............

.................. As far concerning missing the zuhr everyday, it's not a good idea at all, please make an effort to offer it during your work time, inshAllah. You may be excused if it's once in while but everyday doesn't seem right

I agree. And additionally, if we look at it in depth, technically there is no regular QADAA for salah. That is the Salah will cannot be made later regularly because of an issue such as the case for Fasts (qada of fasts is done for sickness, etc.). However, being human one can miss the prayer. And if one is to miss the prayer, at its prescribed time, then one is supposed to offer it as soon as they remember or get a chance.
So there is no real room for doing this on a regular basis.
The cases when it is done in travelling or in Arafah are the irregular events that will happen once in a while.

ada = offering an act in its prescribed time
qada = offering an act after its prescribed time

[Sadiyah]

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I see two opinions basicaly.

One that says combining the salah out of necessity is fine, whereas the other says no, you either pray on time or its qadaa.

A couple of factors again to keep in mind for the situation that I'm faced with:

1. It's difficult sometimes to step out of class to offer salah. It would take about 20 minutes and it's not always possible to do so. Exams could be another hurdle.

2. There's only one prayer room at university. I tried to catch Maghrib last night and it was dark and the building was almost empty. Given that my school's in the heart of downtown, roaming on the streets isn't the safest or the best idea.
   Under such circumstances, would combining the salah (for instance maghrib and isha) be alright or would it still be considered qadaa?

Also, could we now have people backing up their claim in the light of Quran and Sunnah than just outrightly allowing or disallowing something?

Ahmadjee, I hear what you're saying. At my school I haven't seen people pray under the stairs. We're pretty much limited to one room. I also understand the idea about quality over the rush.

[healtymind]

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@Sadiyah

Well how would you define combining though?

For instance if you had to pray maghrib and isha together. Would you pray 4 and 4, or would you just pray 4 in total, or would you pray 8 combined?

Salam,

Islam is clear DEEN of Peace and Love, There is not force on you to do any thing which gives you harm.
Therefore ALLAH TABRAK WA TAALAH has gives you relaxation in praying together when you feel, there is no anough time or vise versa.
If you ask from some one , they will tell you that EVEN IN HAJJ, people pray combine Pray in ARAFAT . This is clear indication that there is not force on you to pray in different times.

ALLAH HAFIZ