London's mayor and his heretical views

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** Decades of British and American intervention in the oil-rich Middle East motivated the London bombers, Ken Livingstone has suggested. ** The London mayor told BBC News he had no sympathy with the bombers and he opposed all violence.

But he argued that the attacks would not have happened had Western powers left Arab nations free to decide their own affairs after World War I.

       Instead, they had often supported unsavoury governments in the region.

Mr Livingstone was asked on BBC Radio 4’s Today programme what he thought had motivated the bombers.

He replied: "I think you’ve just had 80 years of western intervention into predominantly Arab lands because of the western need for oil.

       "We've propped up unsavoury governments, we've overthrown ones we didn't consider sympathetic.

"And I think the particular problem we have at the moment is that in the 1980s… the Americans recruited and trained Osama Bin Laden, taught him how to kill, to make bombs, and set him off to kill the Russians and drive them out of Afghanistan.

       "They didn't give any thought to the fact that once he'd done that he might turn on his creators."           

                           **           No justice?           **

Mr Livingstone said Western governments had been so terrified of losing their fuel supplies that they had kept intervening in the Middle East.

He argued: “If at the end of the First World War we had done what we promised the Arabs, which was to let them be free and have their own governments, and kept out of Arab affairs, and just bought their oil, rather than feeling we had to control the flow of oil, I suspect this wouldn’t have arisen.”

       He attacked double standards by Western nations, such as the initial welcome given when Saddam Hussein came to power in Iraq.                     There was also the "running sore" of the Palestinian/Israeli conflict.

“A lot of young people see the double standards, they see what happens in Guantanamo Bay, and they just think that there isn’t a just foreign policy,” said Mr Livingstone.

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          Story from BBC NEWS:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/uk_news/politics/4698963.stm

Published: 2005/07/20 11:12:08 GMT

© BBC MMV

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Re: London's mayor and his heretical views

Ken Livingston sounds like an enemy of "freedom" and "our way of life", he should step down!

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You are right, LI. He is not with you, hence, he is against you.

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I love the man.

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FF, Read your signature...there is a clue in there to all this madness.

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Re: London’s mayor and his heretical views

He must be an ay-raab.

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Re: London's mayor and his heretical views

REAGAN AND BUSH 1 FUNDED SADDAM. Without huge aid from cons he would have stayed a mostly harmless nobody.

Ditto for Osama!

Give credit where credit is due!

oh and on the same token, he explains the reasons why they act, he doesnt support the act.

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he is the man... ken ken hai, baaqi sab paani kam hai

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Re: London’s mayor and his heretical views

this is interesting urdu expression whatever it means…

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The mayor knows what he’s talking about. :k:

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I thought only “Muslims” think that “West” has overthrown governments in their countries.

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*"While dismissing Livingstone’s comments, a Downing Street spokesman the UK’s Press Association: “We recognize that Ken Livingstone has provided, as an elected official in London, a lead to the people of London at this tragic time – at the same time as he expresses views which we fundamentally disagree with.” *

http://edition.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/07/20/london.attacks/index.html

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Re: London's mayor and his heretical views

^^

Disagree all they want, the man has spoken the truth...There is no denying it...

Some call it as it is instead of trying to suppress dissent with force...

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haha siini pari hai seedhi where it hurts

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Yep it was the cold war and many nations were props, nothing new here.

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No one bitch slaps jews like Ken Livingstone, and he knows their travesties to the core..He can be a great spokesperson for Muslims - something (leadership), the current generation of muslim scholars just cant deliver..

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We certainly know that Arab/Muslim nations can't bitch slap the Jews, they've tried repeatedly and every time they get their asses handed back to them, with a little cut out of course.

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^ that is deserved...

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Re: London’s mayor and his heretical views

Thanks to the sugar daddy…

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But what's a sugar daddy when you have God on your side?