Re: Hasib...Why did you do it???
faisal of course this bombing has nothing to do with jihad. but, why did it happen ? Is it due to the fact that these guys were disgusted by the western values and freedom, the answer is NO!. It's simply due to the fact that they sent out the same message of carnage and destruction as it's being felt on the streets of baghdad, and other such places every day..and that's it
Re: Hasib...Why did you do it???
A despicable criminal committed a crime,
On him I'm not going to waste my time.
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Abdullah Bhai, how did they feel the carnage and destruction as it's being felt in Baghdad? They are only known to visit Pakistan.
Re: Hasib...Why did you do it???
I am pretty sure...our mosques don't teach violence in UK...Then where does this anger come from...Media??Where is all this violence coming from???19 is not the age to die...for no cause...would it be his mom & dad teaching him all this??I doubt it...
Re: Hasib...Why did you do it???
I remember way before 9/11 maybe in the 90's you would hear the odd moulana talk about the need for jihad, well these days its unheard of that anyone in a mosque would openly speak of such a things so I dont know about all this talk of mosques preaching hatred.
I have'nt heard a political speech in a mosque in many years.
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His birth Certificate...
Can you believe it...
2nd October 1986...18 years 8 months...
Re: Hasib…Why did you do it???
ahmadjee come on..don’t be so gullible..if you choose to deny the facts, it does not mean that the others are also insensitive to what’s happening, and unfamiliar with teh magnitude of death and destruction caused in iraq for no reason…
But, these guys funneled their anger and frustration out in the most despicable and horrendous manner, for which of course there’s no justification in islam..
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That’s what i am saying…" am pretty sure…our mosques don’t teach violence in UK"…Do these kids go back to Pakistan & get it from there…just like an adventure story from Law Less tribal areas…
Where??? ..i am spell bound..
Re: Hasib…Why did you do it???
If they were truly disgusted, the honourable thing would have been to leave the ‘west’ altogether and do something to help the victims in Iraq and Afghanistan. Not blow up people as well as themselves on their way out. They did nothing to help their ‘cause’.
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Hussain was known for his sense of humor and style. He wore blue contact lenses and long hair parted in the middle.
"It fell like a curtain on his head," said a friend, who asked to be identified only by the initial G. "He was a good lad . . . a good looking man. He had a good personality," the friend said.
Some people said Hussain became more religious two years ago but never abandoned his boyhood friends for radicals.
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Yea I really don’t understand why either. Besides the rumor that someone was influencing them to do so, which is a bit obvious. Why would you kill yourself as well as other innocent people. If you really hated something/someone, wouldn’t you go (at the worst) try hurting THEM. Not yourself 
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Re: Hasib…Why did you do it???
Mehnaz, i can’t speak for them, neither i can fully understand their motivations. however, what’s obvious is whether this thing would have happened had britain not gone to war against iraq, my safe guess is, probably not..one may try to understand the root causes of their revulsion..and that’s all..what could have happened, or what could they have done instead..i am sure a lot good for humanity, to say the least..
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Yea you’d think they were like extremists and stuff, but I heard they were just young average kids (average in the sense of putting aside the obvious)
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22-year-old Shahzad Tanweer(LEEDS) ::
Every week, 22-year-old Shahzad Tanweer joined friends for games of soccer and his beloved cricket.
Tanweer, whose Pakistani-born father owns a fish-and-chips shop, lived all his life in the city's Beeston area. A devoted athlete, he studied sports science at Leeds Metropolitan University and planned to get involved in sports professionally. He showed up twice a week for pickup soccer games, said a teammate who gave his name only as Saj.
"He was normal. We used to drink Coke and Fanta together," said Saj. "He was quiet. He was religious. He went to every mosque here. There are loads of mosques here."
Tanweer went to Lahore, Pakistan, this year to study the Islamic religion, and his family believed he was attending "some religious function" on the day of the bombings, said his uncle, 65-year-old Bashir Ahmed.
Forensic evidence has linked Tanweer to the blast on the Underground train near Aldgate.
The uncle said the family was "left shattered" and in disbelief that Tanweer could have organized such violence, the Press Association reported. "It wasn't him. It must have been forces behind him.
"It was total shock, I mean, it's unbelievable," Ahmed told reporters, but he denied that his nephew had gone to Afghanistan and taken part in training camps.
"There is no way, I have seen his passport," he said.
Another friend, Azzy Mohammed, 21, added: "He's the kind of person who gets along with anyone. His sense of humor is very good. He's a sweet lad."
Re: Hasib...Why did you do it???
I know this sounds wrong...but I honestly wish they would've just quietly killed themselves in a room rather than going out and killing innocent people as well
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Goliko - where are you getting this from?
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I have issues with this line of reasoning.
On the onset it does seem that a Muslim frustrated out of the plight of other Muslims as perceived by him out of recent events (Iraq war) took on the act. But I ask you, where was this Muslim when Saddam was doing the same to his people? Where are all these suicide bombers when Muslims exterminate other Muslims genocidically? Where are these Muslims when acts of their bratheren Muslims evoke reaction by others?
So acts of such criminal terror are unjustifiable, much like imposing war on Iraq. Anybody who thinks like “they killed us, let’s kill them” is a blind person devoid of any conscience. This so called hate for West is not really out of sympathy for Muslims. That’s just an excuse. This is more like “crusaders” mentality.
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Thirty-year-old Mohammed Sidique Khan worked as a counselor in a youth center. He seemed to spend more time in the gym than the mosque.
Khan was born in Pakistan and has an 8-month-old daughter. He grew up in Leeds but moved five months ago to Dewsbury in West Yorkshire. He worked with disabled children while his wife, Hasina, was involved in education, neighbors said.
One neighbor, Sara Aziz, 28, said she saw him going to the gym in the mornings. Others neighbors said they rarely saw him in the local mosque and he never talked with them about religion.
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Previously it was believed by many, that this militant version of Islam is indoctinated into vulnerable muslims, those who are poor, uneducated and un-cared for. These people seemed to think they have no future. They thought that death by way of suicide bombing will get them onto the fast track of martyrdom and paradise. May be even those who have faced enormous hardships from enemies of Islam. It was suggested that the solution is to educate people and give them opportunities, so they don't kill themselves. Palestinians and Iraqis are poster children for this line of thinking.
This bombing in UK requires a paradigm shift now. The answers may not be quite as simple any more.
Re: Hasib...Why did you do it???
Crusade mentality is exactly what it is. That and a great deal of testosterone.
This is what you get when you have mullahs running rampant in society.