London bomber trained in LeT madrassa

One bomber belonged to the Lashkar-e-Taiba.

It was only a matter of time before an LeT/JeM jihadi did his act overseas. Expect more international support for Pakistani jihadis from now on.

http://news.scotsman.com/topics.cfm?tid=1312&id=1073542005


ONE of the suicide bombers who struck in London was probably recruited when he attended a religious school in Pakistan with strong links to al-Qaeda and its south-east Asian offshoot, Jemaah Islamiyyah, The Scotsman can reveal.

Security sources in Pakistan are investigating a tip-off that Shehzad Tanweer attended a religious school run by the terrorist group Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT) during a recent visit to the country. The group’s founder has publicly stated that he believes suicide bombing to be the “best form of jihad [holy war]”.

Pakistani investigators suspect that Tanweer attended one of the many madrassas, or religious schools, run by LeT, which is based in Lahore. The group, which also operates under the name Jamaat ud-Daawa (the party of preaching), has close ties with al-Qaeda and access to munitions and safe houses.

Most of its membership of several thousand have been through madrassas in Pakistan, and many are familiar with the use of explosives. The group maintains links with other terrorist networks and it is known to solicit donations from the Pakistani community in the UK through its charitable wing.

LeT was founded by Hafiz Saeed, a former professor at Lahore’s University of Engineering Technology. In April 2003, he defended the use of suicide bombing, saying: "Suicide missions are in accordance with Islam. In fact, a suicide attack is the best form of jihad. :rolleyes:


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Oh my God

i dont no what do they want
this step is worst , pata nahe kon si janat ki baat kertay hian yea loog
ajee bjahalat hya , aur aisay loog jo yea kehtay hain kay yea jaiz hay unhain kehna hcaye kay apa ja kay kiyoon nahe kertay ???????????
janwar
jain dafa hoon , maaf kerin humarya loogo ko
yea jo kuch hua kis ko faida ho ga is say , jahil yea nahe sochtay , agar iraq main ghalat ho raha hy to jaoo wahan ja ker laroo , yahan masoom logo ko mar kiyoon rahy hoo , akal kiya ghas khanay gaye hay , aur jo log aisa kernay ko kehtay hain , un say bara jahil insan nahe dunia main , unhoo to kehna chaye kay ap ja kay karoo , khud halway khatay hain aur masoom bachoo kay apnay sheytani kamo per uksatay hain

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Only a fool would believe that LeT by itself is doing this.

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Attacker ‘was recruited’ at terror group’s religious school

GETHIN CHAMBERLAIN
CHIEF NEWS CORRESPONDENT

ONE of the suicide bombers who struck in London was probably recruited when he attended a religious school in Pakistan with strong links to al-Qaeda and its south-east Asian offshoot, Jemaah Islamiyyah, The Scotsman can reveal.

Security sources in Pakistan are investigating a tip-off that Shehzad Tanweer attended a religious school run by the terrorist group Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT) during a recent visit to the country. The group’s founder has publicly stated that he believes suicide bombing to be the “best form of jihad [holy war]”.

The revelation came as Pakistan claimed that it helped thwart a terrorist attack in Britain before the May general election, and that its intervention led to arrests in several countries. However, Pakistani authorities refused to comment on reports that the UK was seeking access to Zeeshan Siddiqu, a 25-year-old British national arrested in May near Peshawar.

Yesterday, British police and security services were concentrating their efforts on tracing the man who masterminded the attacks. They now know the identity of all four bombers but are understood to be looking for a fifth man who appears on the CCTV footage from King’s Cross. His picture has been distributed to police in London.

There was also a fresh warning from Charles Clarke, the Home Secretary, that a “large number” of people in Britain had been through radical camps abroad.

“We have to understand that these foot soldiers who have done this are only one element of an organisation that is bringing about this kind of mayhem in our society,” he said. “And we have to attack the people who are driving it, organising it, manipulating those people.”

Mr Clarke dismissed as “completely and utterly untrue” claims that he had told European Union colleagues that some of the bombers had previously been subject to “partial arrest”. But there were suggestions that one of the bombers had been linked to a suspect in a separate anti-terrorist inquiry.

The family of Shehzad Tanweer - whose bomb killed six people on a Circle Line train to Aldgate last Thursday - were yesterday said to have been “left shattered” by the news that the 22-year-old was a suicide bomber. His uncle, Bashir Ahmed, 65, said his nephew went to Lahore in Pakistan for two months earlier this year to study religion, but was “proud to be British”.

Pakistani investigators suspect that Tanweer attended one of the many madrassas, or religious schools, run by LeT, which is based in Lahore. The group, which also operates under the name Jamaat ud-Daawa (the party of preaching), has close ties with al-Qaeda and access to munitions and safe houses.

Abu Zubaydah, a senior al-Qaeda lieutenant, was seized in an LeT safe house in Faisalabad in March 2002. The group has also been linked with Hamas and Jemaah Islamiyyah, and Indian security forces believe it is playing a significant role in channelling militants into Iraq.

Most of its membership of several thousand have been through madrassas in Pakistan, and many are familiar with the use of explosives. The group maintains links with other terrorist networks and it is known to solicit donations from the Pakistani community in the UK through its charitable wing.

LeT was founded by Hafiz Saeed, a former professor at Lahore’s University of Engineering Technology. In April 2003, he defended the use of suicide bombing, saying: "Suicide missions are in accordance with Islam. In fact, a suicide attack is the best form of jihad.

“Jihad is prescribed in the Quran. Muslims are required to take up arms against the oppressor. The powerful western world is terrorising the Muslims. We are being invaded, humiliated, manipulated, and looted. How else can we respond but through jihad?”

The group runs a number of madrassas, including the Darasitul Islamia madrassa, where six Malaysian students were arrested in 2003 on suspicion of training for Jemaah Islamiyyah activities in Malaysia and Indonesia.

Saeed was delivering a sermon at the madrassa on the day of the arrests.

Meanwhile, the biggest concern for police and the security services is that the bombers could have been acting on the orders of an al-Qaeda mastermind and that there may be another bomb team waiting to strike. The Home Secretary said the security services were checking telephone records to establish whether the bombers were part of a larger organisation.

Alan Capps, editor-in-chief at the US Homeland Security Institute, said he believed that the British authorities would be looking for two more people - one the bomb-maker and the other the leader who would keep the four bombers focused on their task - though they were likely to have left the country a few days before the attack.

“One is a strong personality, probably well-educated, easily able to blend into an international community, confident of himself and well travelled,” he said.

“The other is probably well-educated in the technical aspects of creating devices, confident about handling explosives and also probably blends into the community, clearly with a technical background, possibly educated in the West.”

He said investigators would want to examine where the explosives came from, which could give a better picture of who they were dealing with. And he warned that the bombers were unlikely to have been the only cell.

“I am sure that there are other cells either in the process of being formed or already up and running and at different stages of preparation,” he said. “I think we have to assume that this was part of the al-Qaeda franchise.”

Police were yesterday giving out few new details about their investigation, but an MP disclosed that one of the houses being searched by officers in Leeds had been used by the terrorists as an operational base.

Greg Mulholland, MP for Leeds North West, said: “I understand this is where the material may have been stored.”

Yesterday, Colin Cramphorn, the West Yorkshire chief constable, said there remained a “potential threat of an explosion” at the search scene. The names of all four bombers have now emerged. They were Tanweer, 22, Mohammed Sadique Khan, 30, and Hasib Hussain, 18.

A fourth man was named in Leeds as Eliaz Fiaz, also known as “Jacksy”.

A spokesman for Tony Blair said the Prime Minister was “shocked” to learn the bombers were born and raised in the UK, adding: “He is determined that we should take on this extremism.”

By last night, ten of the victims of the London bombings had been formally named but Dr Andrew Reid, the Inner North London coroner, warned it may take weeks to identify some of the others.

‘Classes’ which teach lessons in hatred of West

THEY claim to provide a respectable religious education, spreading peace and tolerance at the core of Islam’s message. But the reality is that they are hotbeds of fanaticism and a training camp for the next wave of terrorists.

Madrassas, such as the one attended for some months by English-born suicide bomber Shehzad Tanweer, were denounced in 2003 by US Secretary of State Colin Powell as breeding grounds for “fundamentalists and terrorists”.

A year earlier, Donald Rumsfeld, the US Defence Secretary, said in a leaked memorandum: “Are we capturing, killing or deterring and dissuading more terrorists every day than the madrassas and the radical clerics are recruiting, training and deploying against us?”

Although not a new phenomenon, Saudi wealth and charities contributed to an explosive growth of madrassas during the Afghan jihad against the Soviets. During that war, a new kind of madrassa emerged in the Pakistan-Afghanistan region - not so much concerned about scholarship as making war on infidels.

And madrassas - which in Arabic means “schools” - have recently come to worry western governments and anti-terrorism experts more and more.

Despite Pakistani government pledges to crack down on the camps post 9/11, there has been a recent upsurge in their activities and a welter of reports that they are again training Islamic militants.

Pakistan’s Herald magazine reported recently that major militant organisations - including LeT - had begun regrouping in April this year and renovating their training facilities. The magazine reported militants were attending refresher courses at the Mansehra camp in the North West Frontier Province.

Experts say problems at madrassas began in the late 1970s with the onset of the Afghan-Soviet war. The schools provided teaching and training for the Taleban, which in Arabic means “religious seminary students”.

The enemy then was the Soviet Union; today it is the US and it allies.

These new madrassas now teach Wahhabism, a rigid expression of Islam that promotes fundamentalist readings of the Koran.

While it is disputed whether the schools provide terrorist training, some have undoubtedly become a viper’s nest of hatred and anti-Western thinking.

Recently, the Pakistani president, Pervez Musharraf, a US ally, promised to rein in extremist religious schools, but his efforts have seen mixed results.

Nine of the Bali bombers were madrassa-educated, as was Haroun Fazul, who blew up the US embassy in Nairobi in 1998.

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That's my question - what the h*** is Pakistan government doing, letting these groups madrassas and camps be open? If they know it's run by LeT why don't they just go and arrest them?

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Musharaf government has done a lot to close any Madrassas that were encouraging terrorism (if there is any left, there were some left after Afghan war that were set-up in alliance with CIA) and the process is still going on. So it is not fair to blame Musharaf and his government for not putting any effort.

Also what if PTV and Pak Government starts claiming that train-crash in Pakistan was planned by graduates of Oxford Univ., will England close Oxford Univ.? It is not difficult to do so. Just put a message on a web site from some organization, repeat it every half hour in news so that every body gets it. Next day all journalists will be discussing it.

Pakistan's Government and its people condemn terrorism and terrorists as much as any one else will. There may be and there will definitely be some people that may have involved themselves in this shameful deed. But our Government and people are putting the best to discourage such elements.

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These madrassas are run with Pakistan government funding to produce "indigenous freedom fighters" in Kashmir. Without them where will the supply of baby killers come from? This is all a Pakistan government operation.

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These madrassas were setup originally to train afghans to go back and fight there for benefit of US and somehow for Pak. After afghan war, major army and intelligence officers and our president (Zia) were killed in a plane attack. Thus some of these madrassas were left open after Afghan war. Since most of these madrassas were kept secret it was hard to find and abandon them. If some madrassas were just built to create people with a mindset to just fight for some purpose and die for it then it is hard to change them. As for afghan war it was ok for CIA, US, the West and Pakistan but after Afghan war they started to fight amongst themselves and some involved themselves in terrorist activities.

Our Government has supported them in the past and so had US and the West because it was not possible otherwise to stop the Red invasion. Osama was trained by US too.

This alliance of US, West and Pakistan has created people that are a threat to our national security. Just after the Afghan war, Pakistan faced a huge consequence as these militants started to harm national properties and they were the main force behind the spread of drugs, guns and terrorist attacks in Pakistan. We have suffered more than any other country.

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Talwar, in fact Pakistan Govt is in a dilemma. Musharrraf is riding the tiger he himself has patronized once.
Today it is not the Govt of Pakistan, but some extra State in the State is running these training camps, which the Govt cannot control on its own, or it will take time.
At least, if the people of Pakistan realize the mistake, half of the road is covered.
So far Musharrraf is the best hope for Pakistan.

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There is no extra 'state in state' in Pakistan, other than those created and supported by the US and the West and visible to BBC and CNN. As for Musharaf and some previous governments supporting LeT madrassas, then they were built for mutual benefit of Pak, US and the West and they were supported by all members of alliance until recently. Now the alliance wants to get rid of it and so do Musharaf. They must be better called "CIA training centers" instead of LeT madrassas. These training centers had such a huge negative impact on our political and economical growth.

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Umar Sharif, what you are telling is a pack of lies. Of course these lies wouldn't work for long.

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:k:

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Tune in BBC or CNN for truth and reality.:)

They made claims for almost an year that there were weapons of mass destuction in Iraq but only Oil was found at the end...

Pakistan could have made such claims too and must have taken control of Iraq and oil. After all we needed it more than they needed it ..:(

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interesting…why not all muslims attack these centres and destroy them. we support you!

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I dont think the LeT guys has planned this thing at all.

What may happen was they met some guys there who may be linked to al qaeda like organisations or may be trained and acted individually.

they recruit these young guys, they didnt even finish their relegious studies there so they must have recruited by these "people" who dont run full fledge training camps or madrassas.

they rectruit small number of people, train them in a room or house, provide support with other contacts. and then this kind of things happen.

so maddrassah are not training them. madrassahs are targeted by these punters to recruit people which they thing may be usefull, these guys may not be directly linked to madrassahs or may have been just students there in disguise.

thats what I think.

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Oh please.

Simple fact - Pakistan government uses ISI funded madrassas and camps to train thousands of jihadi terrorists to send to Kashmir. A few of them figured that they could gain more "fame" by blowing themselves up in London. Once you brainwash a person, he will kill wherever he goes.

From now on anyone who goes to London, Spain or US and talks of "indigenous freedom struggle" they will be laughed out of the place. Or deported.

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Talwar u r absolutely right. What u sow shall u reap. Pak Govt of the past and to a certain extent the current is responsible for the existing state of affairs. I wud fault Mush & Co for being timid when they sud be on the offensive, probably old habits and past friends are not easy to lose.

Let me add another culprit to this list: Saudi Funding/support. Its a shame Pakistan has rented itself to others and now is getting all the blame, why doesnt anyone talk of the arab states who financed and supported these religious fanatics? Guess oil at $58/barrel can make all the difference.