Lemme ask you this....let's say that your wife is feeling tired or down/depressed....would you take her mood into consideration and delay fulfilling your needs so that it would be more comfortable for her as well and thus benefit both parties....or would you basically think "It's not a valid reason" ...and have your marzi in the matter/or show resentment and think to yourself with a vegenance that the farishtey will be cursing her? Do you expect her to adhere to the hadith without any flexibility on your part? Or do you show her compassion and differentiate yourself from an animal?
The fact that you cannot recognize the direct correlation between a women’s role and my above point speaks volumes…
And as far as the size of your “pea” goes, your posts are a good indication that you are over compensating for something or another…my imagination is just fine the way it is, no need to pollute it…
KC, what I'm curious about is how he'd treat his own wife? Would he deem her reasons for refusal invalid and have his way....or would he back off with resentment thinking that his wife will be cursed by angels (who would think that way about their own spouse?)...or would he try to work with her? Focusing on just one hadith provides a small/narrow scope of looking at things.
Wrong line of questioning. Husband has his role to play and wife has her role to play.
You keep going in wrong direction and backtracking. We have been discussing the woman’s role. If there is no legitimate reason she should not refuse is what hadith in question mentioned. Made up reasons are not valid. And it is up to husband’s discretion if he entertains those made up reasons.
Weak argument. Read above. Nowhere I went outside the logical reasoning of my arguments including not getting personal as it is so clearly displayed by others.
I gave you answers fair and square.
Read your hadith, it did not negate woman’s role.
Now please leave other useless comments out of it.
KC, what I'm curious about is how he'd treat his own wife? Would he deem her reasons for refusal invalid and have his way....or would he back off with resentment thinking that his wife will be cursed by angels (who would think that way about their own spouse?)...or would he try to work with her? Focusing on just one hadith provides a small/narrow scope of looking at things.
I shudder to think about her...let's hope it's someone jo ussay apni sahi aukat dhikaaday...
KC, what I'm curious about is how he'd treat his own wife? Would he deem her reasons for refusal invalid and have his way....or would he back off with resentment thinking that his wife will be cursed by angels (who would think that way about their own spouse?)...or would he try to work with her? Focusing on just one hadith provides a small/narrow scope of looking at things.
Soooo, what if you get married and live with the in-laws. What if you dont have a bathroom in your room the first night?
I mean do you just change in front of him/her- and for girls makeup, will you leave your room, go into the bathroom, and wash your fase then run to your room? I mean think about it. This has me wondering.
Would the bathroom be built right after the first night?
ok.....i don't know why you all are arguing and getting personal what not..
question to both sides
Is husband allowed to force despite wife's refusal??
2.If not, then isn't the onus on the woman whether she did it for right or wrong reasons?
1-Husband is not allowed to force. His options are calling and if she answers the call, fine he goes ahead with it. Or he calls, she doesnt answer, he goes to sleep understanding. Or he calls, she doesnt answer, and he goes to sleep angry. Forcing himself upon her isnt an option.
As the hadith says, if he goes to sleep angry, the angels curse her till morning.
shocked???
topic start kis pr hua and till nw hv disussed lot of things here.
nw cant say that it is only abut attach bathroom or just abut walima.
lots of topic here. and i am completely confuse wt r question that hv been asked till nw.
