Locked down

Read this article today in a magazine about coma

Peeple who go into some kind of coma, in which they can hear, feel everything, and want to talk and speak, but cant because they are locked inside their bodies in some way.

This was usually the result of a sever Trauma.

try to image, how you would feel, being locked into a body, trying to move, break, move, cry, move, scream, move, laugh…
The incredible pain of seeing/hearing your loved ones standing right next you, and crying for you, and you, you cant reach out for them, tell them it will be ok, that you are fine,

incredible…

Nessie or some other doc s might know what the name is of this??

Umm, this may sound insane, but have you ever woken up and found yourself lying there, but you can't wake up. It's like your mind is awake, you are aware of that, but your body refuses to wake up.

ahem.

God forbid.

When I was a teenager, once or twice while I was dreaming in the early hours of the morning, I was jolted awake. When I awoke, my eyes could move but the rest of me would not. I tried to scream, move, etc, nothing worked. It was horrible because I was afraid of the dark at that time too. So I would force myself to go back to sleep, and when I did, within minutes I would wake up and I could move.

Sometimes I think it was a dream, but I dont think so cause I would check the clock, etc, but I am not for sure.

Its scary what I went through, dont want to imagine whats it like for coma victims. God forbid.

May Allah protect us all from such a fate, Ameen.

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*Originally posted by hayaa: *
Umm, this may sound insane, but have you ever woken up and found yourself lying there, but you can't wake up. It's like your mind is awake, you are aware of that, but your body refuses to wake up.

ahem.
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yup sounds too familiar :)

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*Originally posted by hayaa: *
Umm, this may sound insane, but have you ever woken up and found yourself lying there, but you can't wake up. It's like your mind is awake, you are aware of that, but your body refuses to wake up.

ahem.
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Yupp happens to a lot of ppl.....including me.....it is terrifying. Worst typa nightmare. It is some kinda sleep paralysis....in which ur mind is awake while your body is still asleep.

imagine forever falling into a pit of grimstone. ugh its the most horrifying dream when you can't stop yourself from falling and can't get up only to finally wake up in a puddle of sweat. usually happens during beta rhythms of sleep.

i can relate to what hayaa is saying, its too frightening. For a little period something similar happened to me, i.e. i would wake up and i would know that I am 'awake' and when i would try to move around, body just wouldn't respond, and i would lay there for a few minutes trying to gain control of my body. It did feel locked down.

I always dismissed them as being nightmares since i dont think this can happen in reality right? only for a few moments?

edit: ok it was exactly the way Munni has described it. Is there a scientific/medical reason for this?

what Prixxi is saying is a ‘locked in’-syndrome, whereas hayaa is talking about something else (i forgot the name but that is a ‘dream’-state paralysis) (i had that course over a year ago, so i’m allowed to forget the name :smiley: maybe ask my sister, she had that course only a few weeks ago.:ahaa: )

anyway, locked in-syndrome is when certain parts of ur brainstem are damaged, which causes ur brains to dissociate from the rest of the body: u r conscious of everything, but can’t do anything: u become literally ‘passive’.

there is also an intermediate state in which everything is locked-in as well, but here you can still move ur eyes!!! the rest is all the same

that other dream-state hayaa/muni/ammarr/etc are talking about, is comparable: cuz during ur sleep ur brain also dissociates from the rest of the body (except eyes), BUT the main difference is that this one is reversable…also, when ur lying there totally motionless, while trying ur best to move…it only needs one gentle touch from someone else, and u suddenly can move everything again, right? :wink:

i’m not totally sure whether both states are caused by the same mechanism :konfused: but it is clear that one is caused by trauma, the other is just ‘normal’

This is such a shock. I hadn't realized it could be a condition, I thought it was just me going insane. So there is actually a term for it, sleep paralysis! Isn't that funny. I did some research online just now, here is some info that the rest of you might like to read:

Sleep paralysis consists of a period of inability to perform voluntary movements either at sleep onset (called hypnogogic or predormital form) or upon awakening (called hypnopompic or postdormtal form).

Sleep paralysis may also be referred to as isolated sleep paralysis, familial sleep paralysis, hynogogic or hypnopompic paralysis, predormital or postdormital paralysis

What are the symptoms?

A complaint of inability to move the trunk or limbs at sleep onset or upon awakening
Presence of brief episodes of partial or complete skeletal muscle paralysis
Episodes can be associated with hypnagogic hallucinations or dream-like mentation (act or use of the brain)
Polysomnography (a sleep recording) shows at least one of the following:

suppression of skeletal muscle tone
a sleep onset REM period
dissociated REM sleep
Is it harmful?

Sleep paralysis is most often associated with narcolepsy, a neurological condition in which the person has uncontrollable naps. However, there are many people who experience sleep paralysis without having signs of narcolepsy. Sometimes it runs in families. There is no known explanation why some people experience this paralysis. It is not harmful, although most people report feeling very afraid because they do not know what is happening, and within minutes they gradually or abruptly are able to move again; the episode is often terminated by a sound or a touch on the body.

In some cases, when hypnogogic hallucinations are present, people feel that someone is in the room with them, some experience the feeling that someone or something is sitting on their chest and they feel impending death and suffocation. That has been called the “Hag Phenomena” and has been happening to people over the centuries. These things cause people much anxiety and terror, but there is no physical harm.

What else can you tell me about sleep paralysis?

Some people with disrupted sleep schedules or circadian rhythm disturbances experience sleep paralysis
A study found that 35% of subjects with isolated sleep paralysis also reported a history of *wake panic attacks *unrelated to the experience of paralysis
Sixteen percent of these persons with isolated sleep paralysis met the criteria for *panic disorder *
How can I stop the sleep paralysis?

In severe cases, where episodes take place at least once a week for 6 months, medication may be used.

You may be able to minimize the episodes by following good sleep hygiene:

getting enough sleep
reduce stress
exercise regularly (but not too close to bedtime)
keep a regular sleep schedule


I'll see if I can find any helpful links and forward them to you guys.
Thanks everyone for sharing, it makes me feel better that I'm not the only one. :-)

ok, one more long post, I'm sure those who've been through it won't mind the read.

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Sleep paralysis is disorder that is both common and terrifying. There are two major types of sleep paralysis: common (typical) and hallucinatory (hypnagogic) sleep paralysis.

Common Sleep Paralysis

According to most researchers ( in a 1992 Gallup poll ) nearly every adult will have an episode of Common Sleep Paralysis (CSP) every couple of years. In the 1950ies and 60ies researchers discovered that sometimes sleepers gain counsciousness finding their bodies temporarily "frozen". This temporary paralysation affects the gross motor functions and macro muscle groups of the body. This state lasts between 15sec to a minute ( though subjects report that it lasts longer.)

These episodes of paralysis baffled sleepers and medicals professionals for centuries. It was not until R.E.M. and its correlation to the dream state was discovered that the mystery of Sleep paralysis started to unfold. Researchers soon discovered that hormones were released during the R.E.M./dream state that paralysed the body and kept it from acting out the contents of the dream. During most regular sleep cycles the hormones begin to wear off even before the dream is completed and thus people wake with a full funcitionning body. In rare occasions the hormones are still actively suppressing the gross motor functions of the body and thus upon waking the individual finds its body temporarily paralysed.

Though waking to this helpless state can be disturbing for the individual, it is perfectly harmless and fairly common. There are rare cases were some people produce too much of the hormone and will suffer from frequent sleep paralysis. There are other cases, where people do not produce the hormone at all.

Hallucinatory sleep paralysis

A more terrifying sister to the common sleep paralysis is the hallucinatory sleep paralysis also known as the hypnagogic sleep paralysis and the Hag phenomena.

There are three major differences between Hallucinatory Sleep Paralysis (HSP) and CSP.

Characteristics of sleep paralysis

1 Whereas CSP is common and universal HSP is rare and seems to be geographically episodic.

2 CSP is of raletively short duration where HSP can last as long as seven or eight minutes.

3 The major difference of course is that CSP maybe unsettling for the sleeper but the HSP is accompanied by a nightmarish hallucination.

There is evidence that HSP seems to affect an area (e.g. a village) much like an epidemic. A region that has had no HSPs reported may all of a sudden be innundated by sleepers suffering from HSP. Though this is relatively new research it seems regions stay infected for upwards to three years, with the most common being only a few months. There is of yet no explanation for this.

HSP also seems to run in families, but a hereditary connection is still to be found. A great deal of research is currently being conducted in Canada and Europe.

The most striking difference between HSP and CSP are the horrifying hallucinations that accompany the paralysis. The source of the hallucination has often been attributed to the hypnagogic state (the state between wakefulness and sleep.) An individual usually awakens either because they hear something or they feel something. The thing to remember is this occurs outside of a dream sequence/plot. The individual is wide awake yet paralysed like in CSP. Moments after the person is awoke they are startled by a terrifying visual hallucination. Almost inevitably, this hallucination takes on a stereotypical form. It is usually a vision of a small malevolent creature that straddles the victim. The creature then either compresses the chest or attemps to strangulate the victim. Most victims report that the creature is actively trying to kill them.

The visual hallucination has been variously interpreted throughout time and in different cultures as being: indigestion ("hippocrites" for the Hellenic Greeks), guilt for the Romans and the Egyptians, witchcraft for the Mexicans and Yoruba people, demons for Medieval Europe, djinn for the Arabs, vampires for Europeans, Hag for the Irish and Scottish, spectral foxes for the Japanese, cats for the Chinese, ancestral ghosts for South-East Asians, etc. Despite the various interpretations, the descriptions of the hallucinations are remarkably similar. There are hudreds of folk remedies to avoid HSP.** But the most common is to not sleep on your back. Almost all attacks have been reported by people sleeping on their backs.**

prax yup thats sad :(

as the name implies 'common sleep paralysis' is most common....and i doubt whether any of u has that HSP.....

anyway i don't think sleep paralysis is harmful for ur health or so.......even more because (if i remember correctly) only a half lecture was spent on this subject, so probably this isn't a serious condition :D:D

this is different but similar in a way I know some1 who was in coma in need of a transplant, imagin this ... doctors arguing about u one saying that treating u is a waste of time and that the donner sud be giving to someone else who has more chance of surviving the other one was saying atleast give this person a try, ur in coma wanting to come out but ur life was in these doctors hand.