Local Radio Skit Sparks Muslim Controversy

The topic of offending cartoons is hot thesedays. Here is another smaller controversy from a LA based conservative talk-radio show.

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By Michael Muskal, Times Staff Writer

      A local radio personality and a group that says it is fighting to empower American Muslims have squared off over a provocative skit that featured a make-believe traffic reporter covering the hajj, where hundreds of pilgrims were crushed to death.

Bill Handel, the morning radio personality for KFI-AM (640), set off the furor when he broadcast the skit about a traffic reporter in a helicopter hovering over the hajj, the Muslim pilgrimage to Mecca, Saudi Arabia, that attracts about 3 million faithful each year.

On Jan. 12, 363 pilgrims were killed in an accident that Saudi authorities blamed on the dynamics of the crowd.

Last week, the Southern California office of the Council on American-Islamic Relations called on Handel and the station to apologize for the skit, which the group said poked fun at Muslims. It also asked the station to reprimand Handel.

“We start at 5 o’clock in the morning offending people,” Handel said in an audio statement on the station’s website and given over the air. “That’s what this show is about. We make fun of everybody. There is no group that is off limits to us.”

Handel said he would apologize to the group but imposed three conditions: The group must condemn all acts of terror; agree that Israel is a sovereign nation and has a right to defend its borders; and that CAIR has no ties to terror organizations or individuals.

The answer to those demands are “yes, yes and no,” said Sabiha Khan, communications director for the CAIR chapter.

“KFI and Hendel continue to fail to take responsibility for Bill Handel’s offensive comments that he made, mocking the tragic deaths of innocent pilgrims during religious rituals,” she said today in a television interview.

“I’m glad he is starting to acknowledge that an apology needs to be made, but it is unfortunate that he has to put conditions on doing the right thing,” said Khan, who added that she had heard Hendel’s broadcast.

In a statement on the website, KFI said it “does not condone making light of the deaths of people engaged in religious observances.”

It added that “KFI does not censor its hosts, nor does it tell them what to say or not to say. KFI is a strong and passionate believer in 1st Amendment rights and that is at the very core of this radio station.”

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Why go so far…Go the the thread** ‘**More cartoons’…Look up UTD’s post where he uses the unfortunate and tragic victims of a natural disaster in Pakistan to drive home a point…Post #16

It’s like making fun of someone born with a defect or using him as a crutch in your argument for the defense of hate speech and mockery…

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^ so UTD wants to create cartoons celebrating the 70,000 earthquakes death in pakistan..tsk tsk..just goes to see what level of bigotry we are dealing with..

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Shabash my fellow Muslims. Keep making scene out of every little things that other do related to your relegion and make mockery of yourself and your religion.
Shame on you !!! This is exact reaction they expect from you and you never disappoint them

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And we should not disappoint them…

If someone teases your mother on the street and you smile at them, it gives them more incentive to do more…

Then they would move to touch your mother, again you just smile and let it go…

Then they would resort to pinching your mother, then again you’d smile and let it go…

You get the idea…They do not realize the importance of the Holy Prophet :saw: in a Muslim’s life…And since they don’t realize (deliberately) they must be made to realize…

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arent you the same guys who laugh at and praise the killing of jews in suicide attacks.

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Jassoos Khan, mocking the Holy Prophet :saw: is a whole different matter…It is a matter of disrespecting (deliberately) the religion of another person…It should be opposed not only by Muslims but anyone who understands that freedom of expression is a responsibility, and those who can’t understand where it ends, need to be taught that…

Otherwise, they’d never learn…

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I understood your reasoning Lajawab, up until you suggested that mocking the prophet (pbuh) is a whole different matter than laughing and praising the killing of jews in suicide attacks.

How is one more sacred than the other?

If you are going to teach respect and responsibility then shouldn't you be teaching it all around? Not just when it suits your religion?

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:omg: :frusty: :smash: :kursi:
I am sorry, we are discussing a sensitive issue, but you just cracked me up here, you lived to your name (id) on this forum…
:rotfl:

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It is a diffrerent matter because that is a fight for land and religion...I don't know about the laughing (never seen it) but some praise it, some are neutral and some oppose it...(All have a valid reason for their actions)...

However, a newspaper like Jang, or Dawn in Pakistan running a competition to see who makes the funniest picture of the holocaust or 9/11 or 7/7 will be given a reward is doing nothing but inciting hatred and misunderstanding...

That's why these two matters are different...Suicide bombing is an act of a people in desperation...

What was the reason behind these cartoons?

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Shabash what a comparision… !!! How logical !!! Good job caveman.

Keep doing it and keep making fun of Islam and Mulsims all over world. People like you just prove that Muslim still live in 700 century.

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Every muslim cause seems to be worth fighting for, until you read this kind of bigoted, emotional black mailing driven rhetoric. We swiftly move from making light of muslim deaths to our mothers on the street and on to the disrespect for our prophet and in the process accept belittling non-muslims deaths in a single breath. Excellent examples of how NOT to express your support for a cause.

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How about putting it in simple words for simple people like me to understand...

I can't understand what you are trying to say...

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We are not criticizing suicide bombers…we are talking about comparing the cartoon which makes fun of something one party holds near and dear to the mockery that is made of Jewish people dying at the hands of the bombers.

If one group finds humour in the killing of Jews, then why should not another group find humour in this cartoon that mocks the prophet (pbuh)? It’s six of one half dozen of another.

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nah Lajawab, it is basically the same thing. Occupation of Palestine by Israel (who has over 200 nukes, 200000 auto-machine gunned army, about 3000 tanks, over 420 Planes). Compared to mere 2000 Hamas military freedom fighters.

when you are under siege, when as a child you grow up seeing, smelling, listening, and touching death - then you end up losing the ability of what is right and what is wrong. Infact then it doesnt matter, as these childeren then only have one thing in mind → and that is revenge.

People of Israel, if they want could stop the masacre by their forces of Palestinians, instead what they want is quite obvious. By electing Sharon (the same person under whose watch the Genocide occured), People of Israel have shown there true colour.

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I can see your point itsme. I can completely understand how skewed and twisted a mind has got to be when they are reared in a violent society where their values and beliefs hold no importance. Where their loved ones are slaughtered without purpose and without remorse.

But the same applies to the other side. They too have grown up knowing not much else. Why are they showing their true colour while the Palestinians are merely doing the best that they can?

I'm not suggesting that any one group is entirely right or entirely wrong. Don't misunderstand me.

But what I am suggesting is that those arm-chair warriors that sit back and cheer victory for suicide bombers because they want to see Isreali bloodshed are no better than those that draw these cartoons.

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F&B one should read the history regarding these incidents, Karen Armstrong's books would be a good source, for starters. Just like the Danish newspaper, people have tried to ignite muslims by insulting the Holy Prophet many times before. There can be many reasons behind it, but the main reason is to provoke a reaction.

Now in different times, other than the cases where the person pleaded insanity, all the courts had a similar opinion, that you can not deliberately slander or insult the holy Prophet, its not acceptable in Islam. In different times different punishments were awarded by the courts. That has been part of the Islamic legislature for the last 1427 years, and the law is almost similar or unchanged in all the Muslim countries, with little variation even today.

Now this being established, the case is different in non-Muslim countries, but the motive is same, in the name of checking the limitation of expression, this is what they choose. Deliberately slandering the holiest personality in Islam. So now if someone uses the example of our mothers and sisters to create a parallel to the situation, so some Muslim can realize the gravity of the situation, ……..what he gets in answer, that its illogical, and it’s a sign of living in 7th century.

Not only this, all over the discussion board, people are comparing it with, anti Semites or holocaust cartoons, Killing of Bengalis, Hamas, Palestinian struggle, war in Kashmir, war in Iraq, 9/11 , 7/7 as if all this is related and that gives them the right to slander the holy Prophet, and what should the muslims do in this case, live in 7th century? One can understand why the non-muslims doing all this, but some muslims do also need to comprehend the situation and stop drawing parallels.

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F & B, why dont you enlighten us...What have you done to help the Islamic cause lately? Come on, you must have done something to help your fellow muslims....Please share it with us so we can learn and hopfully help "your fellow muslims".

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On January 12, morning host Bill Handel said:

Handel: “And what happens every year when you have a zillion Muslims…ah, you get stampedes, as I said earlier. You get, you know, hundreds of thousands of people pouring across and all you need is one…one little word: ‘Mohammad up there is a Jew.’ (Imitates people screaming) Ahhhh! And they start screaming, right? Or, I think there’s a fire here. Or…mouse on the floor, and everybody goes crazy…”

Handel: "…What they need is sort of ‘Mahmoud Nolan in the Sky’ to control all this.” (Note: Mike Nolan does the traffic report for KFI from his helicopter.)
Man with heavy accent: “This is Mahmoud Nolan. Hajj in the Sky. There is an accident…Ali lost his sandal on the on-ramp to the Martin Luther King, Jr. freeway…”

Handel: “. . .that’s our annual stampede report from the Hajj, which we do every single year right here on KFI, and thank you to Mahmoud in the Sky.”
Handel also referred to Islam as a “strange religion.”

Muslims says Handel has a history of making Islamophobic remarks. In March 2004, he aired a skit that claimed Muslims have sex with animals, avoid bathing and are obsessed with killing Jews. KFI was forced to apologize after many Muslims responded to a CAIR alert about the incident.

To listen to Handel’s remarks, go to: http://www.cair-net.org/audio/handel.mp3

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F & B thinks. You should try that sometime Kaleem bhai.