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Abay waleed his arrest was retarded. Everybody knows that. Now answer my question. Here is the problem with you PTI supporters. You are just dishonest. Plain and simple.

You change your loyalties as quickly as any other lota in Pakistani politics. Javed Hashmi was a great man until he left the PTI. Then you all turned into IK's rabid dogs against him.

You said yourself he was a great man. And now?

Why don't you and Jolie answer a simple question:

Is Javed Hashmi a good man?

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I have already answered your question about JH

He was respected by us we chose him the president of PTI when PMLN didnt even gave him any position in the party

But his press conferences against IK and PTI showed something else......Most of his allegations have been false so far

Of course he is a good man

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So your point being now that he left us he is no longer a respected man. My exact point over the past 1 month. You guys care little for Pakistan or anybody there. Whatever your Cult Messiah says is good. So its all loyalty to PTI and not Pakistan.

A man doesn't become less respected or more respected depending on the political party he belongs too. If that is how you all show your loyalties then you are loyal to Imran Khan and not Pakistan.

And none of it has been proven wrong. The Military lies to Pakistanis every day. They lie about people they rendered. They lie about extraditions. They lie about how many soldiers have been killed in attacks. The military has a propaganda machine that would make Goebbels proud.

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Its better you follow your Noora PM rather than making judgmental comments about me

Yes of course for you everyone is wrong and is telling lie IK,TUQ,Lucman,ARY,Army
The only farishta in Pakistan is your Prime Minster Nawaz Sharif

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That is the beauty of it. I am not a PML (N) supporter which you refuse to accept because you think everybody who doesn't agree with you must be with the PML (N). That is retarded. Just because I disagree with the brand of politics IK wants doesn't mean I am the enemy which sadly is how most of you PTI internet Jihadis view life.

Lucman was involved with Mediagate. How quickly you forget. He is in the back pocket of Malik Riaz but he is your hero now because he supports IK or he hates PML (N).

That is why I said you PTI supporters are just plain dishonest. You change loyalties depending if the person likes IK or not. That is all that matters to you. Your cult messiah and who is with him and who is against him.

Its pathetic.

Oh yes and for the record, Nawaz Sharif is corrupt, dishonest, regularly involves nepotism in his recruitment and by and large is not worthy of being in parliament. Just like every politician in Pakistan including IK.

However he won the elections. He won the popular vote and the system requires us to respect it with whatever flaws it has.

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Good

Enjoy your life!

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Believe it or not, people are actually genuinely tired, angry and frustrated this time over Showbaz's Sharif's government's criminally neglected flood management system. Who will ask them that why the findings of 2011 commission was not implemented to prevent such level of material destruction and loss of human lives and livelihoods? Their born again supporters are too blind to question their Kings.

Nawaz Sharif fans may brag about how Noon league voting base consists of "poor and uneducated" - an elegy they present as some sort of positive thing or a real achievement - but that doesn't make them any less humans. Since floods are becoming an annual thing, people of Punjab are genuinely getting tired, angry and frustrated over how the whole thing is managed. If you are still proud of the fact these people will still vote for Nawaz Sharif's family because of regionalism, biradarism or plain old illiteracy rate, then you are one sorry sod!

I really hope and pray that Pakistan's working class one day finally gets a proper political representation with a voice in that God forsaken Parliament run by filthy feudal and industrialists.

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All jokes aside, I really hope he's safe and free of all the torture. Plenty of PTI/PAT activists are in jail all across Punjab. What is their crime?

PTI haters may not realise, but there is no place for such targeted extrajudicial detention in democracy! People getting arrested for their political affiliation is something you would expect under ruthless dictatorships, not in democracies, and certainly not under a government that brags about a complete in House support and an overwhelming electorate majority! It's crystal clear who the dishonest party is and who are the real hypocrites.

I don't expect PTI haters to condemn this criminal antics of this fraud government. What's the most they can say? But truth remains, such extrajudicial detention is simply unacceptable. But whatever happened to freedom of speech, freedom of thought, freedom of association and freedom of movement? People's freedom is under a direct attack by this dictatorial regime of a parasitic brood which grew up in the nest of a filthy dictator.

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One already did. Me. But then again you refuse to see that :)

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Red Zone woes: Exhausted protesters want to go home, organisers won’t let them - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

ISLAMABAD: Arshad Shah, a protester, feels trapped: worn out after weeks of street demonstrations against the government, he wants to go home but protest organisers will not let him.

Like many other protesters led by cleric Tahirul Qadri, Shah said organisers had taken away his national identification card to prevent him from leaving the protest site outside government offices in the centre of Islamabad.

“Some (organisers) will make up excuses for why they can’t return out cards yet, others will just say directly that we can’t leave until the sit-in is over,” said Shah who joined the rallies from Sargodha.

“I just want our cards back so we can leave.”

Others said they were instructed to turn in their cards on a daily basis, get paid to spend the day at the rally and claim the card back at the end of the day.

“I come in the morning and submit my CNIC (Computerised National Identity Card) to Qadri’s people who then give us our daily wages of 300-400 rupees ($3-$4). We then sit around here all day,” said Niaz Ahmed, a daily wage labourer.

“After Dr Qadri makes his speech in the evening, we get our ID cards back and off we go. The next day we come back again. I’m making almost the same money sitting around here all day as I did working hard all day.”

Anti-government demonstrations erupted in Pakistan last month, with protest organisers saying their supporters will not leave until Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif resigns.

Several attempts by Sharif’s aides to find a negotiated solution have failed, with protest organisers refusing to back down from their demand for his resignation.

The confrontation briefly turned violent at the end of last month, with thousands trying to storm Sharif’s official residence.

But since then, the protests have dragged on listlessly, with weary protesters huddling inside their tents or sleeping on the grass verges of the capital’s grandest avenues.

Sorry state
Qadri’s camp categorically denied allegations that it was paying its activists or taking their identity cards away.

“Dr Qadri has openly allowed people to leave if they have to. He announced this in public as well,” said Shahid Mursaleen, a spokesman for Qadri’s party.

“I strongly reject this accusation. This is untrue and those who are saying this are probably not Dr Qadri’s protesters.”

More on this: A ‘Jalozai camp’ in the heart of Islamabad

Qadri’s activists have rallied alongside protesters led by Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf (PTI) Chairman Imran Khan.

Unlike Imran’s supporters who tend to gather in the evening, Qadri’s protesters are camped out outside government offices all day, sleeping and sheltering from the scorching sun or monsoon downpours in tents.

The protest site, within walking distance of many embassies and ministries, is in a sorry state, littered with rubbish, with the stench of human waste hanging in the air.

On the edge of the protest site, men line up every day near a burst pipe and take showers one by one. Women complain that they have hardly showered more than a few times in the last month. Some fear an outbreak of mosquito-borne dengue fever among the protesters.

“The disease can rapidly spread,” said Dengue Expert Committee Chairman Javed Akram.

“There is no proper sewerage facility in the area. The vulnerability of the sit-in participants has increased because of the unavailability of a waste management system.”

At least three women protesters, all of them domestic workers, said they had been paid to come to the rallies when they were first launched. One of them, with three children under the age of six, said mothers were paid 2,500 rupees ($25) more.

“You got paid more if you have a child,” said Rukhsana Bibi, one of the women.

“They wanted more women with children to join the rallies so the pay for that was higher.”

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Javed Hashmi is good as far as his political experience and life is concerned. As far as the PTI exit episode is concerned, people have a right to be upset with him. This is the sequence of events that unfolded after his departure.
1. He claimed that Imran made a unilateral decision to move forward, and entire core committee was against it. (Core committee denied it. I reckon at least 1 out of the 40 odd core committee members would have agreed with him.
2. He claimed that no MNA gave his resignation voluntarily. (Again, many MNAs have come forward to strongly deny that. and again, there would have been at least 1 who would have agreed with him. There are 3 who have gone against the party, thats it.)
3. He claimed that Imran had said that the CJ had assured him of ousting the govt. (CJ went on record the same day to deny that any conversation had taken place).
4. He claimed Imran had military backing, and had called for the meeting with COAS. (ISPR immediately denied it through a tweet).
5. He was in a press conference the same evening, and gave about 10 interviews to 10 talk shows over the next 5 days. One would have expected him to lay low for a while, considering how deeply he supported the long march and the demand for NS's resignation.

His lies were more than enough to leave a sour taste in anyone's mouth. Plus, there is also the matter of his frequent lengthy contacts with PMLN reps in the days leading up to his exit. While that is speculation, it is still food for thought.

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To top this up, when he was ill and in hospital Fisaad Rafiq came personally to visit him... I bet you that he will go back and join PML (N) and if he does then this will be even be more evident to note that this was all planted by Nooras...With their sick mind/dirty plans who knows what they can do...

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When Hashmi left PML(N) and joined their rival PTI nobody from NS group threw dirt on him rather just wished him to come back. Still remember the scene when he was leaving early morning the PML workers in multan were crying and begging him not to go.

Now here on the other side PTIans are bashing him left n right accusing him of what not and calling him ghaddar, holding camps against him etc.That really shows how filthy their mind is.

I think PTI is just a lighter version of MQM. In MQM if you disagree you get killed, here you dont get killed physically but they'll make sure you get maligned as much as possible to possibly commit suicide yrself.

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What would you call a person who leaves the party and then start talking against you... It's a common sense, clearly if he had any respect for his party then he shouldn't be telling lies upon lies and giving interviews on interviews...He is a troll anyway...no need to justify him...

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wow now hashmi is a troll. Your ex-President.

Thats exactly i was talking about. This is the mindset of all IK followers. Either you are with them or life is short on you.

I remember IK's funny interview once (will pull its video shortly) when he was saying that in Pak its a very bad habit that if you charge someone, to stop you they start making false allegations on yourself. (he was referencing sita white scandal) Now you see whats happening. Instead of replying his allegations, YOU are calling him a troll, a ghaddar, and all the other words that I cannot even post here but ofcourse twitter and FB are full of it.

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What you are saying is that if someone slaps/accuse/taunt/insult you, you should stay quiet and don't say a word...

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You are contradicting your leader yourself. Unless he was showing hypocrasy.

IK said he got hurt by Hashmi allegations , he didnt call him bad afaik. Rest of the party is just ready to punish him bad.

There is a huge difference b/w slap (a physical assault) and verbal accusations. He accused himself you defend it. Its that simple. You wanna take an extra step, take him to court. But atleast stop doing his media/social media trial. Do not call him troll atleast thinking he was an appointed president of your party.

Jeez, learn to give respect to people outside the party.

The way its portrayed, People inside PTI are gods, idols while outside of it are all indian agents

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If anything it is you who is trying to paint him as God/idol now that he has left PTI! Why is is immune to all sorts of criticism because he's an PTI president? Do you see the contradiction in your own Holier than thou preaching?

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Asking someone to be respected is making him God? Wow way to twist words!! Thats another proof of my point.

And criticsm?? Who is stopping you to criticize? But doing maan behn on social media against him, is this criticsm???

Do you want me to copy here all the abused/cursed tweets and FB posts against him?

One day president, other day devil.. thats all.

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Syed Talat Hussain ‏@TalatHussain12 1m
Bajwa's presser.Gen Sharif meeting Imran-Qadri wasn't an apolitical act.Nor was tllin govt hw to tackle the mob.