That’s simply not true. Women, especially in Muslim societies are scrutinized for the way they dress. In many Islamic countries going in public without a hijaab is forbidden by law.
Go to any elementary school in a Muslim community and you will find little girls in hijaab. I have known many parents who have forced hijaab on their daughters. It does happen.
I never claimed that this little girl was forced, but I find it difficult to believe that she had a choice in putting that hijab on.
i never said that niqaab was mandatory. however, some Muslims think it is…i’m not of the opinion that niqaaab is mandatory.
Islamically, every one must cover his/her satar [parts of the body that has to be covered]. a man’s satar is from 'just below the knee all the way up to just under the belly button34 while a woman’s satar is her entire body except face, hands and feet.
women are required to wear loose-fitting clothes plus something to cover their bosom oRhnii, dupaTTaa or scarf including hair, of course.
the above is the minimum required.
the more pious you are the more you will care about wearing the minimum required hijaab.
i don’t think so…hair is part of the woman’s ‘satar’ and it must be covered. there are no two opinions among different school of thoughts [fiqh. mazaahib] as far as i know.
Go to any elementary school in a Muslim community and you will find little girls in hijaab. I have known many parents who have forced hijaab on their daughters. It does happen.
You cant have known many good parents then.
Sigh why dont u understand before writing a response? I KNOW about muslim schools requring hijaab because I have siblings that attend a muslin school in a western society. The point I was making that you completely missed was that the kids may have been on their way on their way back from school or a place of religious significance.
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And yes TT it is judgemental when the first thing comes to your mind is that these kids were forced by their parents to wear hijab on a hot day. Not any of the countless other possibilities.
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I never claimed that this little girl was forced, but I find it difficult to believe that she had a choice in putting that hijab on.
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You didnt claim the girl were forced. No you said multiple families. Muslim families. When most muslim families here disagree but you continue to suggest its a bigger issue, yes its judgemental.
And just like some of ur friends, when told by muslims that a certain practice is not as widespread as u think, you just ignore and insist that yes it is an issue without any real evidence. Zero facts. All generalisations and assumptions.
The people who comment on how others dress and judge them for it are small minded people with little to no worldly experience. Do u fall in this category?
These girls could have been coming from their Islamic school!?! Even if not, it is not your place because you don’t know for sure if it was forced or by choice. Plenty of little girls want to emulate their mothers and dressing like them is one.
Two years ago, I was told to dress my three year old modestly (she was wearing a dresswith spaghetti straps, down to her knees in summer) and I just looked at that mom and said maybe your eyes need a dose of modesty because I see nothing wrong with the way she is dressed. People should generally not comment on how others dress their children and why they dress their children that way. Islamic schools that I know tend to make kindergartners wear a hijab mostly for uniformity.
i don’t think so…hair is part of the woman’s ‘satar’ and it must be covered. there are no two opinions among different school of thoughts [fiqh. mazaahib] as far as i know.
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Grossly incorrect.
The vast majority of the muslim world will also say that your interpretation is wrong.
Not sure who my “friends” are but the practice not being widespread does not mean that it does not happen. Almost everybody who has responded has acknowledged that it does. Now if people don’t find 5 year olds having to wear a hijab in public problematic, that’s a different story.
5 year olds don’t get a choice in how they dress, their parents dress them. I see many little girls in public schools with hijabs on. I wonder why their parents feel the need to make them wear it when there is no religious obligation to do so at such a young age.
Not sure who my “friends” are but the practice not being widespread does not mean that it does not happen. Almost everybody who has responded has acknowledged that it does. Now if people don’t find 5 year olds having to wear a hijab in public problematic, that’s a different story.
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The people who comment on how others dress and judge them for it are small minded people with little to no worldly experience. Do u fall in this category?
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That’s saying a lot about Muslims isn’t it?
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I didnt say it doesnt happen. I said its not as widespread as you make it out to be. Sigh. Constantly repeating myself is getting tiring. You need to start reading properly.
Lol so only muslims do that?
Another sweeping generalisation.
So far the only people who have done that in this thread are you and kkf.
Dont bring the entire ummah into this. When people do it its disgusting and it shows their backward mentality. Like what youre doing here. And little kids at that too. Horrible. Learn to mind your own business.
I find it comical that the only people here who like to talk about islam and try to shed some negative lights on practices are the ones who are so illiterate about the topic they literally have no clue about the teachings of it.
the video below is an extremely accurate representation of the kind of people you are
TT I think your ideas might resonate that of the person who tries to have a protest about burqas, no?
As mentioned in the video, “gigantic pile of arse” is the most accurate term I can think of when describing threads that question how some people choose to practice their religion.
If you had chosen your words more carefully I would not have gone this way.
But all your statements seem to incorporate large numbers of the population. Populations which you seemingly know nothing about? Yet here you are speaking on their behalf.
Everytime you have done so I have pointed it out. Yet you havent changed ur statements. You still want to believe its bigger than it is.
When u run out of things to say you go defensive. Nothing to be ashamed of I guess. Most such threads go this way.
And yes I am a proud muslim. When unfair attacks are made I will respond. If discussing with me is too difficult for you and you cant come up with any sound arguments (dont feel bad youre not the first nor the last) then dont start threads of which you know absolutely nothing.
Its okay TT. People like you often struggle to respond when addressed with logic.
If 5 year olds don’t get a choice in how they dress anyway, whether hijab or not, then why is this an issue in the first place? Why they would want to get them used to wearing it now could be so that they don’t need to struggle with it when there is a religious obligation for it.
hmmm saw a similar discussion on a photographer’s blog where he photographed a group of little girls (7-9 years old) some in hijab some in not. Hijab…on a 4-5+ OK. On a baby? That’s ridiculous and I don’t know anyone who would find that “normal” or OK. It goes back to waht someone else said up there, if you think a baby needs to be more “modest” then you have issues of your own.