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ravage, the key word is "implementing"...All dems want is more control and more of your money. Dont kid yourself, they are in it for taking your money and giving it away to illegals and supposedly under priviliged folks.

Remember, this is the party that also wants to allow illegals to vote in this country. If this is not treason (sp?), I dont know what is?

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kaleem bhai democrats couldnt take my money if they tried. you cant get blood from a stone let alone a stone in UK.

but it sounds like your against the issues they raise and not their implementation.

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This is a ridiculous argument that just because one is not poor himself that he can not be concerned with the issues of working class or of poor people.

By that token, republicans cant have a solution for illegal immigrants, because they are not illegal immigrants :) etc etc.

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Enough said? Hardly Kaleem. It would be funny if it weren't so sad that Republicans are so concerned for a unborn fetus but once a baby is born they say "not my responsibility". If a woman get's pregnant and the dickless man runs away from his responsibilities, fiscally and otherwise, then the burden is going to fall on society one way or another, That is a fact like it or not. You seem to think you can live in this lala land where people should all be responsible and if they're not then to bad it only effects them and it doesn't effect you and that is simply not true. That child did not choose how he or she came into this earth and if he or she does not have some kind of structure and stability there is better chance for failure. By helping to create that structure and stability (via school loans for single mothers for instance) it is more likely that the child will be a productive member of society rather than a burden, a burden that does cost you like it or not. *Give us your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free. *Your lack of compassion is unamerican.

minimum wage hasn't been raised in 10 years and is long over due, businesses have every right to raise their prices to cover the cost of the increases. Democrats as a whole want to increase SMB loans, Republicans don't, that's a fact not a fallacy.

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I am ignoring rest of your rant because it does not apply. Now, lets discuss this portion of your post. True, the child had no choice of how he/she came to the world, but guess what, his/her parents do. They have a responsibility to provide for their offspring. Contrary to the libs disillusioned view, it does not take a village to raise a child. It starts and ends with the parents. It is the responsibility of the parent(s) to provide for their children. They need to change their lifestyle, behavior or whatever it takes to support that child. It is not my responsibilty to support their mistakes. It never was and never will be.

I see how you sidestepped Witche's record on the small businesses and tried to gloss over with mumbo jumbo. Here are the facts, small businesses will not only have to raise the prices, they will be forced to reduce their employees. Dont take my word for this, go ask other small business owners. It has exactly the opposite effect than what is desired.

BTW: Your rant regarding the republicans not caring about after the child is born is not only laughable, it is ridiculous as well. I will use the term conservatives here, conservatives want people to be responsible for their actions. If you think that having a child at an early stage is ok, than be prepared for the consequences, do something to provide for that child. No it does not include a mandatory tax increase on Kaleem's paycheck.... sadly that is waht you dems have done for years and continue to profess the same idea. Have you not learned from the debacle of welfare system? When will you libs ever learn?

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Ok, republicans may not have a solution, but guess what, conservatives do. It is simple: Deportation. One way ticket back to your home country. Illegal means, you have broken the law...which means that you are a criminal already. So I say, enough of the coddling and send them packing.

Show me a democrat that really cares about the minorities and I will show you God.

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The most perplexing conundrum in all of politics for me has always been: how do conservatives claim the moral high ground when they take the most immoral position on almost every issue?

You must have the baby because we care about human life but then they don't give a crap about that same life after its birth.

What's more traditional and conservative than what this country was founded on:* give us your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free.* Throwing the bums out? Except when they actually are the cheap labor hired by the conservatives to fatten their pockets, is that even realistic?

What kind of upside down world do they live in?

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Dems and liberals have their palaces cleaned, lawns groomed by all white folks right? Give me a break.... send them all back and economy will take care of it self. This is the beauty of capitalisim, markets adjust to the condition. Dont tell me that US will fall apart if all the illegals are sent back.

Please do read my post about responsibility and then correct yours accordingly. Do I care about human life yes, do I want to support some body else's children, NO and dont force me to do that either. Let the parent(s) face the music. They made the decision and they should face the consequences. It is very simple, but you libs do not understand that.

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The markets have adjusted... to cheap immigrant labor that puts in 12 hour days. Ask your GOP business interest buddies how they'd like paying two to three times the labor costs to work their crops.

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Please do read my post about responsibility and then correct yours accordingly. Do I care about human life yes, do I want to support some body else's children, NO and dont force me to do that either. Let the parent(s) face the music. They made the decision and they should face the consequences. It is very simple, but you libs do not understand that.
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What we libs don't understand is how convervatives think the long term costs of taking care of unwanted, uneducated, disenfranchised children is going to cost any less. It's not the parents that are facing the consequences, it's the children, society and taxpayers because they end up in jail, without an education or worse. That IS very simple, but conservatives don't understand.

Just do me a favor, don't ever claim the high moral ground in political discussions. If it is every selfish man for himself (consequences be damned), fine. Just don't pretend it's something else.

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okay I get it. ‘Conservatives’ have a solution?

I guess they have really implemented it well since 2000 because I really dont see too many illegal mexicans around. All the landscaping folks are college kids trying to pay for college. High school students working at car washes, fast food joints and restaurants.

Hey, kudos to conservatives, they really know how to deliver results clap clap clap clap

PS: the point in my initial post still stands btw :wink:

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^ I dont claim moral high ground, I do however, think lowly of libs and dems. I do not pretend to hid this fact, never have and never will. Dems and libs are the scum of the earth and are hell bent on destroying us all.

About your other foolish rants, I point you back to anothr fabulous idea you libs had "Welfare system"... how is that working out. Show me the fruits of that long term planning. You need to understand that making people dependant on govt and other people's money is not the answer. You need to teach them about responsibility and consequences of their actions. Trust me it is simple, but libs are so mixed up with their g*****ose ideas of saving the planet, saving the humanity that they cannot even acknowledge the basis of a civilized society.

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Pir Jee, I know you are better than dems and libs so I will ignore this word twisting post of yours. You know very well that we do not have a conservative president, heck, I am not sure if he is even republican.

Also, I did not say that a rich man cannot understand the problems of the poor, all I am saying is that these Dmes are phony... they tell stories of how they were brought up, what they dont tell the people is that now I live in a palace now and will like to dig dip into your pockets to support my lifestyle and tax you over and over again so you can never reach the same place I am at.

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word twisting post?
hey I responded to your post which instead of answering my post went on a tangent.

I am niether a liberal, nor a democrat, nor a conservative, nor a republican. I am above these petty little polarized boxes, they are for simpletons, who lack the capacity to think, to be herded into.

so who is a conservative champion in this country, I thought the neo-conservatives and conservatives all flocked to GOP. are you now telling me that GOP is a poseur and is not what is claims it is? and same for the prez?

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^ Good question, who is the shining example for all conservatives to follow? Bush may not be conservative, but he filled his team with the most right wing nut jobs in history.


Do you post that for your own amusement or do you really believe that? You dislike all dems and libs? Do you really quantify 1/2 the population as 'scum of the earth'?

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Here is another shining g*****ose claim "half the population"... DO you have any idea how many of US folks vote? I will let you do the research and give you another chance to save your face. Note: I have not quoted your post... It will give you a chance to make amends. :D

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So it's just the registered democrats that are the scum? What about registered Republicans that are liberal? What about liberals who are are ex-cons and can't vote. I bet you really hate them. What about fiscally conservative and socially liberal gays, where do they fall? Exactly where do you cut off your disdain for libs/dems? By the way, the larger the % of US that votes puts your interests in more and more danger, so let's hope it stays low. Let's keep them little hungry democrats without food and education so they will stay in jail and not vote, eh?

Now I will give you a chance to tell us who the great conservative leader you admire is. Newt? Ollie? Rumsfeld? Robertson? Lott?

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What does that even mean??? A teenage girl gets pregante, the man runs away, and she herself doesn't have a solid foundation and all you tell her is to face the music? wtf does that mean?? You're against using public funds to help education such a girl so what exactly are you proposing she does? Just saying that "she wasn't responsible and now she has to deal with the consequences (the baby)", is not an answer.

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Bin Laden is that you? Omar?

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I think its time you put down that bong and start making some sense.

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Kaleem, I really would like to know, which Amercian conservative leader's agenda do you admire?

And.. which dem/libs are you talking about when you say 'scum f the earth'? The politicians or anyone who holds certain liberal views?