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I think this thread belongs to life1. Well here it is…

Someone wise said, “A brilliant mind and ill fate are a terrible combination” … and for some reason it keeps resounding in my mind.

I have seen plenty of university graduates (from top-end Canadian universities) in Canada working odd jobs to pay the bills. I have seen their brilliance getting torn apart by the twist of fate. I have noticed the confidence they once exuded being replaced by words and speeches, as if they were seeking some sort of reassurance from within that what they were doing was not all that bad. For some people life is a lifelong ordeal. It comes in many forms - money problems, marital n issues, death/illness, accusations, fraud and God knows what else. There is no question to ask, but an issue to discuss. Share your thoughts!

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Yea thats what called 'Real life experience'. Brilliance comes out by intelligently tackling the real life problems and not just being a book worm.

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/\ that's right. Good or bad, you become a product of the decisions you make. To possess a clear vision as to know where your decisions would lead you, however, is not always possible.

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NaMaan is right. Intelligence doesnt necessarily come from being book-smart. I believe it is a combination of knowledge and experience.

However yes, if your luck is bad and just keeps getting worse it affects your confidence and you look for reassurance by talking to people about your accomplishments. You want them to know you dont belong here...its just bad luck.

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You dont get life, you have to earn it!

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This is a very good topic indeed.

My thoughts are mixed. I have struggled my way in life as well, had issues realizing what I am really good at, and then what can I do with the skillset that I have to make a difference.

What I noticed is that there were sort of two categories in our "desi" community:

  1. Just survive first. Unfortunately, a lot of our parents have struggled to come to canada and the main purpose for their journey was to provide us a safe place to survive. They are not looking for us to take risk. They are not comfortable with that. If I decide to pursue something is not a "norm" than they are hard to convince. Hence what happens over time is that we loose our ability to think freely, take risks and move forward.

  2. The rest of them. They are a bit more risk takers. Either they took the challenge head-on, or slowly realized that life is not going to move ahead if they dont' try to take a few risks.

Overall, I think if we ever want our country or ourselves to succeed, we need to start taking risks. I remember leaving my good job to do something i really wanted to.. and boy did I hear a earful from my family, extended family and every other family-friend lol

Currently, I see that our generation is very low on self-confidence. Those who think that they do have it, are just lying to themselves. Being able to sit with 15 other desis and yell out swear words is not confidence.

I really do encourage you to take the risk, go with your gut feeling. If you are looking for a job than think out-side-the-box. If you dont have 5 years of experience than think of how you can be creative and show the employer that you have equalient of 5 years of experience.

Very good thoughts indeed!

** BTW THIS ISN'T ABOUT ME. **

I recently had a chance to catch up with some old friends, and I found it troubling that they were not exactly where I had expected them to be. I also noticed some differences between their original and present selves.

I think life isn't exactly * fair * with everyone, or to say the least, it does not treat everyone the same way. Tough times (family, illness, financial woes, love) do test some people more than others. They key, however, is how you deal with such things.

Awwww initiator, what a great post which made me incredibly sad.One of the elders in our family fits this situation perfectly - he is known to be one of the most brilliant of men, strong morals and good priniciples and fate just kept putting difficulties infront of him one by one. :( :( :(p.s. Must be another Canadian thing :(

I think that means , that a brilliant mind find a criminal ways out.

One sad thing about uni grads, they don't have individuality. In a way they assess them self in group way. Like as every one is attached to every on else in class and in uni.
I mean every one has his own potential and his own will power.

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Criminal ways out?? :hayaa:I was referring to things that are more - uh, out of your control, bad luck in business, illness, etc.

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I was just commenting on that little statement.

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Nice topic.

fate=hard work+surroundings+never give up.

Opportunity knocks disguised as hard work.

You can read about struggle of many people who had to file for bankruptcies multiple of times but they kept on challenging the fate. They never gave up and once in their lives they got that chance to make a difference and that changed their lives.
Once I landed in USA I started to look for that chance to live that decent life I use to dream about. For seven years I had to work three jobs to provide decent life for my family and I kept on gaining new skills by taking various classes. I knew in my heart and mind that keep on working on three jobs is not my destiny. Finally I got those skills which were high in demand and I could work one job and provide decent living for my family.

I will quote on example from history here :

Walt Disney, 1901-1966, cartoon creator, filed for bankruptcy in 1920 after his main client of his new business filed bankruptcy. Disney said he could no longer pay his employees or the rent and had no choice but to file bankruptcy himself. In 1923 her formed a new company with a loan from his parents and his brother. In 1928 her created “Mickey Mouse” and the rest is history.

I know eh. It's seriously saddening, and I have seen some of those educated/brilliant men getting bullied around by half-educated, high school grad type bosses at those jobs.

I find the 'dealing with things the right way' argument seriously flawed as well. Some people have to deal with a lot more, and those things, one after another, bombard them at such a pace that even the most stable of the people can lose their balance. Once that fine balance of confidence, believing in yourself and knowing where you want to go is shattered, it becomes ten times harder to get back on track.

A bad by product of brilliance is wanting to achieve a lot at the same time. I think it is harder for brilliant people to let go of things, and when faced with the problems, it becomes difficult for them to ignore some of the variables. The result often is not being able to achieve or handle anything. It's like an all or nothing scenario.

I think you're right about university grads not having individuality. Owing to the reason that they do not consider too much into the equation, it is easier for less educated people to make some hard choices. When you're trying to balance out a lot of variables at the same time, you may become a wreck, or achieve so much more. It's just that it is a tremendous task to dig into knowledge, consider too much, and yet be able to maintain your individuality. If university grads are able to achieve that balance, they produce better results than most others. Obama, anyone?

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^ dude some time disregarding your surroundings intellectual influence is a very good thing.
Well mostly its a very good thing.

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/\ yep 'Kiss Kiss Bang Bang' should, at least sometimes, be the way to go. Easy, it isn't so.

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Well I say most of the time.
you take advantage from intellect around you. Like ali or umer said, take a perl even if its in dogs mouth.

You don;t let smart ppl putting limit on your actions. Some time its good to unlearn. Read hareem's signature lolzzz I like it.