Licking your hand (Hadith)

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Originally posted by CocoNut:
**You know you guys maybe taking this hadith literally thinking that why would i want someone else licking my hands. But if read between the lines this obviously means that food must not be wasted and every morsel, grain is to be valued.

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It is difficult to comprehend that he would advise for an unhygienic and risky practice in order to promote the value of food. There are several other easier methods to teach the same lesson. How can you teach a good lesson to a child by asking him/her to be involved in ridiculous activity. Unbelievable explanation.

Akif: Can you tell me how to get food borne diseases by just being in the same room where another person is eating food. This is true for airborne diseases such as tuberculosis and influenza but not for food borne diseases like infectious gastroenteritis(which can easily be tranferred by licking someone's fingers who is suffering from infectious gastroenteritis).
Give me valid references if you wish to stick to this claim.

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ok let’s join both inferences (yours and mine) together, maybe this is the “right” conclusion?!

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“kaisay na karta usko main pyar, uski haseen main sukh thay hazaar, bichar gayay hum dukh ki hay baat”

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You know you guys maybe taking this hadith literally thinking that why would i want someone else licking my hands. But if read between the lines this obviously means that food must not be wasted and every morsel, grain is to be valued.

Ok, i explained one way why the Prophet said what he did in this hadith. The other way could be how close a muslim is to another. This shows the proximity between two muslims that one could go out on a limb and do almost anything for the other.

I dunno these explanations are just coming off the top of my head but don't they make sense to you?

No one neccessarily licks anothers finger but it shows that you must value your food and you must diminish the hate between your fellow muslims. These are the reasons I can conjure up to support this hadith. I'm not sure what reasons our Prophet had but these could be the ones.

Try to keep an open mind here instead of having a single track mind about hygiene.

Well, don't take anything personally here or go out on a grudge but these are just mere suggestions of what our Prophet meant by the hadith of licking another persons hand. Maybe this second suggestion is not valid to you but thats all i could think of at the time.

Jitna Diya Sarkar Nay Mujko, Itni Meri Auqat Nahi, Yeh Saab Tumhara Karam Hai Aqa, Mujh Mein Aisi Koi Baat Nahin.

Love happens once . . .

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The proponents of hadith are out, once again, defending the most blashpemous part of Islam without realizing that their armour is corroded and they are riding a three legged horse. Prophet had only one function and that was to deliver the message of God in the form of a Holy Book called Quran which is complete and final.

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Originally posted by Mullah_DoPiazza:
The proponents of hadith are out, once again, defending the most blashpemous part of Islam without realizing that their armour is corroded and they are riding a three legged horse. Prophet had only one function and that was to deliver the message of God in the form of a Holy Book called Quran which is complete and final.
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I don't think we should ignore hadiths considering that many traditions are based on them.

"kaisay na karta usko main pyar, uski haseen main sukh thay hazaar, bichar gayay hum dukh ki hay baat"

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Originally posted by Ali_R:
** I don't think we should ignore hadiths considering that many traditions are based on them.

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bro Ali, if you want to find out about this Mulla do Piazza character, do a search on him and find out what he beleives in. He is another Hindu in Muslim's disguise.

We oughta be Changez like, don't we?

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Either that or he is a SUBMITTER!

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hmmmmm this pizza man is

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why ppl do such things!?

“kaisay na karta usko main pyar, uski haseen main sukh thay hazaar, bichar gayay hum dukh ki hay baat”

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Originally posted by Changez_like:
** bro Ali, if you want to find out about this Mulla do Piazza character, do a search on him and find out what he beleives in. He is another Hindu in Muslim's disguise.

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There you go, as soon as someone tickles your insecurity, you resort to personal attacks. Read Quran and understand it, don't just recite it loudly and disturb others. Once you understand Quran, you will see the light, may be.

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Originally posted by sholay:
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Either that or he is a SUBMITTER!**
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I don't submit to anyone but thank you for not calling me a 'kafir'.

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reason I respond to your messages this way is I look at your history (not many months ago history… very recent one

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yes sure, I read Quran, it tells me to follow Prophet PBUH… how’d you follow him? by ignoring him? I follow him (or try to) by reading his sayings, his life, (ahadeeth/sunnah).

We oughta be Changez like, don’t we?

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Hey guys/gals:

Please stick to the topic in hand not to mullah. Nobody has come up with a valid and sensible explanation of the part of Hadiths promoting licking one's fingers by another person. Most statements are only emotional obsessional type showing "true love for every statement with a stamp of Hadiths on it".

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The issue is not about loving this or loving that.

Some people follow and accept A'Hadeeth and some people don't follow and accept A'Hadeeth.

Whoever feels it is valid for their lifestyle, then so be it.

Like I stated before, noone is forcing the issue on anyone. Let Choice be the deciding factor.

If anyone on the other hand can prove that the A'Hadeeth is fabricated, then please prove it.

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Originally posted by analyze it: Nobody has come up with a valid and sensible explanation of the part of Hadiths promoting licking one's fingers by another person. Most statements are only emotional obsessional type showing "true love for every statement with a stamp of Hadiths on it".
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Ibrahim says’ salaams to all

Apparently you have Not been able to understand this hadith even though “coconut” had advised that you should consider it allegorically.

This is what Allah(swt) conveyed to mankind.

Read!

3: 7 ** He it is Who has sent down to thee the Book: in it are verses basic or fundamental (of established meaning); they are the foundation of the Book: others are allegorical.** But those in whose hearts is perversity follow the part thereof that is allegorical seeking discord and searching for its hidden meanings but no one knows its hidden meanings except Allah and those who are firmly grounded in knowledge say: "We believe in the Book; the whole of it is from our Lord"; ** and none will grasp the Message except men of understanding. **

Now this refers to the Qur’an whereas hadiths may also have such content depending on , to whom that was conveyed to. Meaning Prophets can also convey matters in the form of parables or allegorically.

Even we in our current times do this when we want our children to THINK ( meaning using their brains to determine what is being meant)

The words licking your fingers in this hadith basically means that one should not waste any food , not even that , which may stick on your fingers and the words allowing others to lick your hands means sharing what you cannot consume or have to eat with others instead of wasting it.

It does not mean you ask someone to lick your fingers as you have been led to believe. ** What you failed to understand was that once you licked your fingers why is there a need to ask someone to lick it again?? **

So this where the capability to THINK is determined.

I hope this will make it easier for you to comprehend, that words uttered by the Prophet (pbuh) were at times directed to specific people for specific purposes and can be understood literally or allegorically depending on the context of the texts just like the Qur’an.

In fact the Bible records that Prophet Eesa (pbuh) used to speak in parables to all his disciples so much so they had to repeatedly ask him as to what it meant. The reason being that we are to ponder and contemplate its hidden meanings. ( meaning develop our thought)

Allah (swt) knows best.

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God tells you to follow the Prophet in the context of the message that He sent you through the Prophet. Hadith (sayings of the Prophet) and sunnah (actions of the Prophet)
are fabricated stories written by humans almost 200 years after the death of the Prophet. But even if you consider them to be authentic, you are still not suppose to follow that because these are not a part of the message that God sent us in the form of Quran. Quran is the final message from God.

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Originally posted by Mullah_DoPiazza:
** God tells you to follow the Prophet in the context of the message that He sent you through the Prophet. Hadith (sayings of the Prophet) and sunnah (actions of the Prophet)
are fabricated stories written by humans almost 200 years after the death of the Prophet. But even if you consider them to be authentic, you are still not suppose to follow that because these are not a part of the message that God sent us in the form of Quran. Quran is the final message from God.**
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tell me how do you offer/pray 'salaat'? do you pray at all? what times do you pray?
if you are not 'non-Muslim' then probably you are another follower of "Dr Rashad Khalifa"...

We oughta be Changez like, don't we?

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If he is a muslim then its up to him if he does believe or not. We cant change his mind and neither i want to. But i think "wahabis" dont recognize hadiths either...

"kaisay na karta usko main pyar, uski haseen main sukh thay hazaar, bichar gayay hum dukh ki hay baat"

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Originally posted by Changez_like:
** tell me how do you offer/pray 'salaat'? do you pray at all? what times do you pray?
if you are not 'non-Muslim' then probably you are another follower of "Dr Rashad Khalifa"...
**
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I don't know who this doc is but I'll find out. In the meantime, since many of you criticize jews, why don't help your fellow Pakistanis who are running around with their tails tucked in their hind legs and they are licking the fingers of the jews, just like this Hadith.

You are advised to keep your language and comments in check. Repeated unwanted behavior will result in ur account being restricted
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Originally posted by Mullah_DoPiazza:
The proponents of hadith are out, once again, defending the most blashpemous part of Islam without realizing that their armour is corroded and they are riding a three legged horse. Prophet had only one function and that was to deliver the message of God in the form of a Holy Book called Quran which is complete and final.
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Hay Mullah_DoPiazza! It's been a while. You are slightly wrong on just believing in Quran. The last time people gather to listen to Mohammed PBUH, he said in similar words as " I have now completed the teachings of Allah to you. I am leave you two things, Quran and Hadees." Which means the questions which can't be found in Quran then look as Hadees and see if you can find answer in that.

I won't discuss what if the hadees is totally correct or not but it is up to us to either believe in it and do as we are told or don't do it. There is no harm in not licking your fingers or licking your fingers.

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Originally posted by mbmagsi:
** Hay Mullah_DoPiazza! It's been a while. You are slightly wrong on just believing in Quran. The last time people gather to listen to Mohammed PBUH, he said in similar words as " I have now completed the teachings of Allah to you. I am leave you two things, Quran and Hadees." Which means the questions which can't be found in Quran then look as Hadees and see if you can find answer in that.

I won't discuss what if the hadees is totally correct or not but it is up to us to either believe in it and do as we are told or don't do it. There is no harm in not licking your fingers or licking your fingers.**
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Totally flase statement. Prophet left just one book called Quran.